From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Mar 12 03:23:25 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:23:25 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Tournament 3=B2. Never saw an intensive use of GES Biorifle so far. Where is Unreal Tournament in this game? Where is the UT characters? I want to try this game to understand what Epic Games did with UT! --B_3275161372_13308103 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [ut3] Why? On 13= -10-2007 22:02, "Daniel Collins" <solemnwarning at solemnwarning.n= et> wrote:

<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:9.0px'>I've just been playing the windows release of t= he demo and one thing
comes to mind.....
How the HELL did they make such a pile of sh*t from UT2004?!

The console is on @ instead of ` now, making it impossible to register
without copy/paste from elsewhere
They removed dodge jumping
The graphics are pixelated like hell
Weapons are overpowered stupidly
And there's probably far more wrong with it...

Are they TRYING to alienate all the players away from it by turning it
back into "classic" UT99??


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From what i seen is like “Gears of Wars Tournament 3&#= 8221;, instead “Unreal Tournament 3”. Never saw an intensive use= of GES Biorifle so far.

Where is Unreal Tournament in this game? Where is the UT characters?

I want to try this game to understand what Epic Games did with UT! --B_3275161372_13308103-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Mar 12 03:23:25 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:23:25 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: players. http://gearsforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?s=e3c5c94287e7f7c620aa58d44265b4db&t=575752 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Mar 12 03:23:25 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:23:25 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: number of linux/mac users because it registers the last OS you played with your serial key. On Dec 7, 2007 8:02 PM, Matthew Thompson wrote: > > If I go down to EB and pick up a copy of UT3 > today, that will show up as yet another sale of the Windows copy of the > game. > > Very true. But what happens when the company looks at the real, concrete > numbers of Linux users playing games? Either we finally get the recognition > we deserve or the company realizes that we _really_ don't matter compared to > the rest of the customers. (this is just a random thought) > > I've considered buying from tuxgames.com before, actually. Unfortunately I > happen to be in college and constantly short on cash so I end up going with > sites with cheaper prices. Quake Wars is $60 from tuxgames while it's only > $30 from gogamer.com :( > > > > On Dec 7, 2007 1:42 PM, Alex Malinovich > wrote: > > > > Matthew Thompson wrote: > > > I couldn't care less if I had a boxed version or not. I always end up > > > installing 100s upon 100s of mb patches after installation anyway, so > > > whats wrong with using a client patch on a Win32 cd? It's not worth > > > reprinting everything for a special edition when all they did was change > > > the miniscule portion of windows-specific code to some other OS. > > > > If it was purely about logic, you'd be absolutely right. But > > unfortunately, this is about marketing. And in our case, WE are the ones > > trying to do the marketing, not the ones being marketed to. Companies > > want to see hard numbers. If I go down to EB and pick up a copy of UT3 > > today, that will show up as yet another sale of the Windows copy of the > > game. > > > > On the other hand, if they have a specific Linux version, or if I buy > > from a Linux-only retailer like tuxgames.com, that sale shows up as a > > Linux sale to the publisher's sales-drones. If we get enough of those > > over a long enough period, we can (hopefully) influence enough companies > > to follow in Epic's footsteps and support Linux with their new games. > > > > > > -- > > Alex Malinovich > > Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! > > Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the > > pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 > > > > --- > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org > > Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 > > > > > > > > From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Mar 12 03:23:25 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:23:25 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: policy ... many people lose their precious time while following this mailing list in hope for any bits of information. - I'll just remind what Ryan answered to some really basic question almost at the beginning: ---- > is, are we going to see a Linux client when UT3 is released Ryan: yes. ---- So yeah, there is hope, there is anger, there is uncertainty. Anger is on my side too ... I've bought original UT3 box and paid even more because it was shipped from abroad ... Never opened the box, it lays somewhere waiting for better times. For all the bored people, I recommend playing another game -> http://www.teewars.com - really fun, competetive, skill based and multiplatform(Win/Linux x86/Linux x86_64/MacOSX). Cheers All From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Mar 12 03:23:25 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:23:25 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: around the problem. I think it's pretty obvious they needed someone representing that middle ware company to sign some sort of release/legal thing who would not. I doubt he would name names, he said something like you would not believe who it was. I think it's also very likely the reason they would not sign the agreement is microsoft.  Microsoft is the puppeteer behind this legal problem.

Katrina wrote: 
On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 10:05:02 -0700
Ryan Lewon <xorl at xorl.net> wrote:

  
let the man (ryan) Do his job and you all will reap the  
benefits when his task is completed.
    

The eventuality that he ALREADY finished his job (months ago, I'd guess), but
the game is being withheld by someone outside his control doesn't even touch
you?

Well, it should.

- Kate

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From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Mar 12 03:23:25 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:23:25 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: around the problem. I think it's pretty obvious they needed someone representing that middle ware company to sign some sort of release/legal thing who would not. I doubt he would name names, he said something like you would not believe who it was. I think it's also very likely the reason they would not sign the agreement is microsoft.  Microsoft is the puppeteer behind this legal problem.


Katrina wrote: 
On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 10:05:02 -0700
Ryan Lewon <xorl at xorl=
.net> wrote:

  
let the man (ryan) Do his job and you all will reap the =20
benefits when his task is completed.
    
The eventuality that he ALREADY finished his job (months ago, I'=
d guess), but
the game is being withheld by someone outside his control doesn't even =
touch
you?

Well, it should.

- Kate

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------=_Part_115184_6296211.1223658755692-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Mar 12 03:23:25 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:23:25 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Yes, Linux is not suitable for games. Actually, Linux is fine for games, games are simply not made for Linux. So if you're a PC gamer, anything but Windows is not a choice (and if you say Wine works great, I'll slap you). Now, I do have to admit a little guilt in responding here, because I knew all you guys like to bitch and moan anytime someone comes in here that doesn't agree with you, but sorry. The reality of this situation is that you are bitter and want to blame someone other than yourselves. This is really more like if you called up the dealership, asked if the car had GPS, told no but it should be released free at some point in the future, bought the car anyway and then proceeded to complain that the GPS was still not out after a year. You bought the car despite the fact that it was missing the one thing you wanted it for, you're the one to blame in that scenario. Brizz On 2/6/09 10:39 AM, [FnG] Lambik wrote: The person that told 'It has GPS in it' happens to be the salesperson, and then yes you can expect to have GPS in it ! Not sure what kind of point you're trying to make, but seems to me your only business here is to stir thing up, as you have state to play games on windows only.(Linux not suitable ??) Pre ordering a game has the risk of getting something that isn't quite what you expect of it, but in this case there has been promised support for linux OS aswell. Epic has the reputation to support linux on all UT series, which has formed a good basis of trust, which they have broken, and that is why ppl are upset with EPIC. That is something they have every right to. Lambik On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Sir Brizz < sir.brizz at gmail.com > wrote: For what? They didn't market UT3 as having Linux binaries included or available. The problem here is that Epic never guaranteed anything. I appreciate you wanting brand new boxes or whatever your case may be, however that doesn't change the fact that you bought something that didn't include the sole thing you bought it for. Can you imagine, taking this same thing to a more terrible and surely less appropriate analogy, if you bought a car because someone said it had GPS in it, never test drove it, and realized after purchasing it that it didn't have GPS in it? Would you blame the person who told you or yourself for not looking into it more? I understand that people wanted and were expecting and (possibly) promised Linux binaries and are upset, but, frankly, you DON'T have anyone to blame but yourself if you paid the money for it already. Did Epic make you spend that money? YOU were encouraged by what they said, YOU made a decision, and YOU spent the money. Brizz On 2/6/09 10:14 AM, Luiz Gustavo Angelo wrote: Epic could be sued by this, couldn't ?? On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Matthias Bach < marix at marix.org > wrote: Hi! On Friday 06 February 2009 17:57:02 Sir Brizz wrote: > And for those of you whining about how you bought the game and haven't > played it because there is no Linux client, sorry but maybe you should > have waited to buy it until there actually was the only thing you were > buying it for? That seems like the practical thing to do in any > situation. You are missing the point. When I ordered the game there had been a statement by Epic that there would be a Linux-Installer on disc, as it had been with 2K4. Later they said it wouldn't be on disk, but available on the day of release. Therefore, as I kind of like to have nice game boxes that I can show of, I did not bother to cancel my preorder. The problem is that I trusted Epic to keep to their promises. > Did you buy Prey the day it came out hoping that Ryan Gordon > would release a Linux binary for it, too? No I didn't, because nobody promised that Prey would be ported. When it finally was ported this was a pleasent surprise. > If you want to be a thrifty > consumer, then be thrifty. And if you aren't thrifty, don't whine that > you made a mistake and try to blame it on Epic or anyone else. You don't > have anyone to blame but yourselves. Maybe I have, but then it is not for expecting Epic to make a port, but for trusting Epic to deliver the software I ordered. > Personally, I'm sure a Linux binary will eventually come out for UT3 and > when it does I will probably use it. Maybe it will, after all it's already supposed to be done. The real question is, will their still body to play against. Will the engine still be something competitive to base your mods on? By the time it will probably take one could just as well start writing an own engine ... Regards, Matthias -- Luiz Gustavo Angelo T: +55 11 75452244 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Mar 12 03:23:25 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:23:25 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Yes, Linux is not suitable for games. Actually, Linux is fine for games, games are simply not made for Linux. So if you're a PC gamer, anything but Windows is not a choice (and if you say Wine works great, I'll slap you). Now, I do have to admit a little guilt in responding here, because I knew all you guys like to bitch and moan anytime someone comes in here that doesn't agree with you, but sorry. The reality of this situation is that you are bitter and want to blame someone other than yourselves. This is really more like if you called up the dealership, asked if the car had GPS, told no but it should be released free at some point in the future, bought the car anyway and then proceeded to complain that the GPS was still not out after a year. You bought the car despite the fact that it was missing the one thing you wanted it for, you're the one to blame in that scenario. Brizz On 2/6/09 10:39 AM, [FnG] Lambik wrote: The person that told 'It has GPS in it' happens to be the salesperson, and then yes you can expect to have GPS in it ! Not sure what kind of point you're trying to make, but seems to me your only business here is to stir thing up, as you have state to play games on windows only.(Linux not suitable ??) Pre ordering a game has the risk of getting something that isn't quite what you expect of it, but in this case there has been promised support for linux OS aswell. Epic has the reputation to support linux on all UT series, which has formed a good basis of trust, which they have broken, and that is why ppl are upset with EPIC. That is something they have every right to. Lambik On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Sir Brizz < sir.brizz at gmail.com > wrote: For what? They didn't market UT3 as having Linux binaries included or available. The problem here is that Epic never guaranteed anything. I appreciate you wanting brand new boxes or whatever your case may be, however that doesn't change the fact that you bought something that didn't include the sole thing you bought it for. Can you imagine, taking this same thing to a more terrible and surely less appropriate analogy, if you bought a car because someone said it had GPS in it, never test drove it, and realized after purchasing it that it didn't have GPS in it? Would you blame the person who told you or yourself for not looking into it more? I understand that people wanted and were expecting and (possibly) promised Linux binaries and are upset, but, frankly, you DON'T have anyone to blame but yourself if you paid the money for it already. Did Epic make you spend that money? YOU were encouraged by what they said, YOU made a decision, and YOU spent the money. Brizz On 2/6/09 10:14 AM, Luiz Gustavo Angelo wrote: Epic could be sued by this, couldn't ?? On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Matthias Bach < marix at marix.org > wrote: Hi! On Friday 06 February 2009 17:57:02 Sir Brizz wrote: 
And for those of you whining about how you bought the game and haven't 
played it because there is no Linux client, sorry but maybe you should 
have waited to buy it until there actually was the only thing you were 
buying it for? That seems like the practical thing to do in any 
situation. 
    

You are missing the point. When I ordered the game there had been a statement 
by Epic that there would be a Linux-Installer on disc, as it had been with 
2K4. Later they said it wouldn't be on disk, but available on the day of 
release. Therefore, as I kind of like to have nice game boxes that I can show 
of, I did not bother to cancel my preorder. The problem is that I trusted Epic 
to keep to their promises. 


  
Did you buy Prey the day it came out hoping that Ryan Gordon 
would release a Linux binary for it, too? 
    

No I didn't, because nobody promised that Prey would be ported. When it 
finally was ported this was a pleasent surprise. 


  
If you want to be a thrifty 
consumer, then be thrifty. And if you aren't thrifty, don't whine that 
you made a mistake and try to blame it on Epic or anyone else. You don't 
have anyone to blame but yourselves. 
    

Maybe I have, but then it is not for expecting Epic to make a port, but for 
trusting Epic to deliver the software I ordered. 


  
Personally, I'm sure a Linux binary will eventually come out for UT3 and 
when it does I will probably use it. 
    

Maybe it will, after all it's already supposed to be done. The real question 
is, will their still body to play against. Will the engine still be something 
competitive to base your mods on? By the time it will probably take one could 
just as well start writing an own engine ... 

Regards, 
Matthias

--------------090801080400010705020602-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Mar 12 03:23:25 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:23:25 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Yes, Linux is not suitable for games. Actually, Linux is fine for games, games are simply not made for Linux. So if you're a PC gamer, anything but Windows is not a choice (and if you say Wine works great, I'll slap you). Now, I do have to admit a little guilt in responding here, because I knew all you guys like to bitch and moan anytime someone comes in here that doesn't agree with you, but sorry. The reality of this situation is that you are bitter and want to blame someone other than yourselves. This is really more like if you called up the dealership, asked if the car had GPS, told no but it should be released free at some point in the future, bought the car anyway and then proceeded to complain that the GPS was still not out after a year. You bought the car despite the fact that it was missing the one thing you wanted it for, you're the one to blame in that scenario. Brizz On 2/6/09 10:39 AM, [FnG] Lambik wrote: The person that told 'It has GPS in it' happens to be the salesperson, and then yes you can expect to have GPS in it ! Not sure what kind of point you're trying to make, but seems to me your only business here is to stir thing up, as you have state to play games on windows only.(Linux not suitable ??) Pre ordering a game has the risk of getting something that isn't quite what you expect of it, but in this case there has been promised support for linux OS aswell. Epic has the reputation to support linux on all UT series, which has formed a good basis of trust, which they have broken, and that is why ppl are upset with EPIC. That is something they have every right to. Lambik On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Sir Brizz < sir.brizz at gmail.com > wrote: For what? They didn't market UT3 as having Linux binaries included or available. The problem here is that Epic never guaranteed anything. I appreciate you wanting brand new boxes or whatever your case may be, however that doesn't change the fact that you bought something that didn't include the sole thing you bought it for. Can you imagine, taking this same thing to a more terrible and surely less appropriate analogy, if you bought a car because someone said it had GPS in it, never test drove it, and realized after purchasing it that it didn't have GPS in it? Would you blame the person who told you or yourself for not looking into it more? I understand that people wanted and were expecting and (possibly) promised Linux binaries and are upset, but, frankly, you DON'T have anyone to blame but yourself if you paid the money for it already. Did Epic make you spend that money? YOU were encouraged by what they said, YOU made a decision, and YOU spent the money. Brizz On 2/6/09 10:14 AM, Luiz Gustavo Angelo wrote: Epic could be sued by this, couldn't ?? On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Matthias Bach < marix at marix.org > wrote: Hi! On Friday 06 February 2009 17:57:02 Sir Brizz wrote: And for those of you whining about how you bought the game and haven't played it because there is no Linux client, sorry but maybe you should have waited to buy it until there actually was the only thing you were buying it for? That seems like the practical thing to do in any situation. You are missing the point. When I ordered the game there had been a statement by Epic that there would be a Linux-Installer on disc, as it had been with 2K4. Later they said it wouldn't be on disk, but available on the day of release. Therefore, as I kind of like to have nice game boxes that I can show of, I did not bother to cancel my preorder. The problem is that I trusted Epic to keep to their promises. Did you buy Prey the day it came out hoping that Ryan Gordon would release a Linux binary for it, too? No I didn't, because nobody promised that Prey would be ported. When it finally was ported this was a pleasent surprise. If you want to be a thrifty consumer, then be thrifty. And if you aren't thrifty, don't whine that you made a mistake and try to blame it on Epic or anyone else. You don't have anyone to blame but yourselves. Maybe I have, but then it is not for expecting Epic to make a port, but for trusting Epic to deliver the software I ordered. Personally, I'm sure a Linux binary will eventually come out for UT3 and when it does I will probably use it. Maybe it will, after all it's already supposed to be done. The real question is, will their still body to play against. Will the engine still be something competitive to base your mods on? By the time it will probably take one could just as well start writing an own engine ... Regards, Matthias From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Mar 12 03:23:25 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:23:25 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: ly it's not news, it's confirming that nothing has changed.(still good, thi= s is still better then when they would have binned it :-) )"=20 Yes, it's just good to hear ANYTHING. Silence could mean anything, "No ETA"= means that at least they haven't scrapped it yet.=20 "I also think EPIC will not put any resources in recoding a buggy version o= f UT3 to a Linux/Mac version untill they are 'sure' to have a solid UT3 ver= sion. Else they would have to maintain multiple versions(Windows/Consoles/V= alve/Linux/Mac/'not-sure-which-versions-are-promised') of UT3, and testing = them all too."=20 This is possibly a perfectly good point. It could be that the Linux binary = has been done for quite a while now and ready to go but Epic wanted to wait= to release it until the expansion pack comes out (basically UT3's UT2004).= =20 "About your 1) you almost sound like a salesman, forgetting the details whe= n it's convenient, patches followed up a bit more rapidly then you stated, = you only stated the final patches."=20 And that was intentional. I don't really presume to know much about the inn= er working of Epic's business, however I do understand that they have hundr= eds of licensees they have to support, two game franchises, three subsidiar= ies they have to manage, etc. They are not the small company that made Unre= al/UT or the only slightly larger company that made UT2003/UT2004. They hav= e A LOT more going on in their business model than they did before, and rea= lly this only helps to explain the time between patches for UT3 (let alone = that they are now supporting three platforms for it). I'm happy that they a= re continuing support at all. The way they've been treated over it, they co= uld have just abandoned it and moved on to something else.=20 Brizz=20 On 2/9/09 2:24 PM, [FnG] Lambik wrote:=20 "And this discussion between you and I here has little, if not nothing, to = do with the Linux binaries, so I'm not sure why you are even bringing them = up in that respect"=20 As I see the complaints about the linux binary is basicly the support EPIC = is giving(not or verly little), and that is not only linux related, but on = UT3 in general.=20 I understand you can't give a timeline, you're only working with info hande= d to you, fair enough.=20 Still that information is still the same as we got a year ago :S, so basicl= y it's not news, it's confirming that nothing has changed.(still good, this= is still better then when they would have binned it :-) )=20 I also think EPIC will not put any resources in recoding a buggy version of= UT3 to a Linux/Mac version untill they are 'sure' to have a solid UT3 vers= ion. Else they would have to maintain multiple versions(Windows/Consoles/Va= lve/Linux/Mac/'not-sure-which-versions-are-promised') of UT3, and testing t= hem all too.=20 It is weird that they don't have a planning yet on when the linux binary wi= ll see the light, they will atleast have a planning like 'not this year' or= 'we start after the massive patch with recoding', but nothing of the kind.= Sorry, but I am not very possitive about this.=20 About your 1) you almost sound like a salesman, forgetting the details when= it's convenient, patches followed up a bit more rapidly then you stated, y= ou only stated the final patches.=20 but you're right that has nothing to do with the linuxbinary discussion, so= rry for that.=20 Lambik=20 PS. You do type a lot faster then I do :P=20 On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Sir Brizz < sir.brizz at gmail.com > wrote:=20 You obviously had no intention to read my last email, right?=20 1) No, it's not what you mentioned at all. Unreal never had all it's proble= ms fixed, UT came out by the time that happened (only 18 months later) :p U= T2003, as well, never had final patch that fixed all of it's problems, UT20= 04 came out before that (roughly 18 months later). Now, we are getting a pa= tch which, after all the most major bugs have ALREADY been fixed, fixes alm= ost every single complaint people have with the game ROUGHLY 18 MONTHS LATE= R. What has seriously changed here?=20 2) My point with my second statement is that the demo should have told you = all the story you needed to know. If you couldn't have been more unhappy wi= th the demo, why did you buy the game? They couldn't have fixed the thinga = that made you unhappy in Two Weeks (tm).=20 RC7 doesn't prove anything, as I said before it could have been a manufactu= ring mishap for all you know.=20 And this discussion between you and I here has little, if not nothing, to d= o with the Linux binaries, so I'm not sure why you are even bringing them u= p in that respect.=20 I can't give you a timeline, all Steve said was that it is still being work= ed on and he has no ETA. I'm personally just happy to know that they haven'= t binned it after all this time. I wasn't being vague, I was passing along = information.=20 Brizz=20 On 2/9/09 1:37 PM, [FnG] Lambik wrote:=20 You do copy well Sir Brizz ;)=20 1) that is exactly what I also mentioned, but thanks anyway=20 {In the past EPIC had released UT versions which at start had problems, per= formance, bugs, etc, but they did fix the urgent matters within weeks, and = the other stuff after a few months}=20 2) this is no more info then 1) already displaying, what is your point with= statement 2) ?=20 The RC7 thing proves it's a rush job, but that isn't the big issue, it's th= e support afterwards, like ~ 1=C2=BD year later a massive patch is planned = :(=20 Again the mentioned 'massive patch' doesn't say if the linux server will be= released, not even to mention the linux/Mac client.=20 The server side has been supported for linux, I am wondering will it be rel= eased at the same time or again ~ week later.=20 [quote "Sir Brizz"]I thought some of you might like to know that Steve Polg= e just contacted me and told me that the Linux binary has not been abandone= d.[\quote]=20 ;-) You sound like EPIC, just as vague. If you are in contact with him, cou= ld you ask him to be a bit more specific on the "when" ?=20 Because that is the real question here, but ofcourse you do know that.=20 Please take your time reading, that saves communication :P=20 Lambik=20 On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Sir Brizz < sir.brizz at gmail.com > wrote:=20 I'd say you had plenty of indications that the game was not going to live u= to your expectations.=20 1) Epic has always had subpar releases of Unreal games on the first install= ment of an engine version. See: Unreal, UT2003/Unreal 2.=20 2) The demo was released only a couple of weeks before the game went gold. = They couldn't possibly have improved it much in that time.=20 There are even more than that but those are simply the key things you could= have looked at before buying the game.=20 As for it being "RC7", what is that supposed to prove? RC stands for Releas= e Candidate, so no matter what they released it would have been a release c= andidate. If you're talking about the labeling on the meta info of the disc= , are you sure that wasn't a manufacturing mishap? :p=20 If you look at the patch notes for the massive patch that they are releasin= g soon, you'll see that Epic HAS been listening to feedback all this time, = despite what the pessimists in the community would have everyone believe. E= pic has always listened to constructive feedback on their games (at least U= T) and this patch proves they still do, the people that are complaining now= are the ones who didn't give any constructive feedback so their voices wer= en't heard.=20 Brizz=20 On 2/9/09 12:08 PM, [FnG] Lambik wrote:=20 [quote "Sir Brizz"]They delivered a functional game. If you bought it the w= ay it was packaged, you have no one to blame but yourself if it disappoints= you.[\quote]=20 It's not only the linux community, but the wide spread of PC gamers are com= plaining about the support that EPIC has shown the past year.=20 The product which was released was not finished, infact I bought a S.E. ver= sion which was actualy the RC.7 :S=20 I did not buy it to play it on linux, but even the windows version was not = the quality we as UT community are use to.=20 In the past EPIC had released UT versions which at start had problems, perf= ormance, bugs, etc, but they did fix the urgent matters within weeks, and t= he other stuff after a few months.=20 That is what this community was expecting with this release too, giving sup= port, using the feedback we as UT ppl were supplying to improve the game,= =20 giving the ppl the sense they are part of the process.=20 When you take a look at how many servers that are running and being used, c= ompare that with any other game of the same level, then EPIC should be asha= med.=20 A successor of UT2k4 should atleast contain the same functionality.=20 So in short to Sir Brizz, yes we are only to blame but ourselfes . The fact= remains that we are entitled to spread the word that EPIC has failed to ke= ep their promise,=20 that they have let down our trust, that our advise is not to buy the game.= =20 You may call it complaining, I see it as warning other users for the bad qu= ality game EPIC has created.=20 EPIC has proven the following :=20 "Results of the past are never a guarentee for the future"=20 just my 2 cts,=20 Lambik=20 On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:45 PM, < ceil420 at gmail.com > wrote:=20 Well I'm tired of you acting as though Linux users that bought the game jus= t did so with no promise of functionality in their platform of choice. They= were led to believe they would be able to play the game on Linux at or sho= rtly after release. The blame for the wasted money may be 80% on the player= s, but Epic themselves also shoulder some of that blame. Especially conside= ring their history of Tux-friendliness; particularly with this line of game= s. This isn't Blizzard or EA we're talking about, but a company known to su= pport. Linux with past titles, and one that promised playability with the l= atest as well.=20 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry=20 -----Original Message-----=20 From: Sir Brizz < sir.brizz at gmail.com >=20 Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 11:38:25=20 To: < ut3 at icculus.org >=20 Subject: Re: [ut3] Official release date=20 Fair enough, My response to your message wasn't really intended to=20 target you. I can completely understand people buying the game with the=20 expectation that the client would get released, I just wish people on=20 here would use a little more brain power instead of just slapping the=20 blame on Epic as if they had no involvement in the decision making=20 process at all.=20 Brizz=20 On 2/6/09 11:32 AM, David L. Willson wrote:=20 > I didn't personally buy the game, but I understand the motivation of thos= e that did. It's important to show approval for ISV's that are allowing the= ir customers freedom of choice. The best way to show that approval is to bu= y their stuph. I think it's important to wait until the cross-platform goal= is achieved, but I understand the desire to reward Epic's promise or inten= t. I wanted to, too, but because I've been in software a while, I thought i= t better to wait and reward achievement.=20 >=20 > David L. Willson=20 > Network Engineer=20 > MCT, MCSE, Linux+=20 > tel://720.333.LANS=20 >=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Sir Brizz"< sir.brizz at gmail.com >=20 > To: ut3 at icculus.org=20 > Sent: Friday, February 6, 2009 11:26:53 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain= =20 > Subject: Re: [ut3] Official release date=20 >=20 > Well, this post:=20 >=20 > http://utforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=3D584654=20 >=20 > Was made 5 days before the game shipped, and indicates that the Linux bin= ary was not ready (something that could have easily been inferred from othe= r forum posts around the same time).=20 >=20 > And, I'm sorry if you're trusting, but, frankly, the Linux binary could c= ome out in 5 years and they wouldn't have lied. They never gave a timeline,= and if you assumed that it was about to be released, you were fooling your= self into it.=20 >=20 > I agree that the binary should be out by now, but I'm not involved in Epi= c's business so I don't know what is holding it back. Recent posts by Ryan = Gordon suggest that the binary is practically (if not completely) done, but= it's likely stuck behind the same legal hurdle that it was before. What is= Epic meant to do about that?=20 >=20 > And it just doesn't change the fact that Epic didn't do anything but give= you consolation that a binary would come out at some future point, and bas= ed on that you made the decision to buy the game. You still bought the game= knowing that what you were buying it for did not exist yet. That was your = decision, not Epic's.=20 >=20 > Brizz=20 >=20 > On 2/6/09 11:20 AM, David L. Willson wrote:=20 >=20 > There's that fine line again, Brizz. Epic (your car dealer) didn't say "s= hould be". They said, originally, that it "would be" in the box. Then just = before release they said, "OK, it's not going to make it into the box, but = it will be released." Not "should be", but "will be". Which led some trusti= ng souls to buy the game on faith, led other, less trusting souls to wait, = and then led trusting and non-trusting souls alike, to, at some point, say,= "Well, what the ~fuck~, Epic?"=20 >=20 > David L. Willson=20 > Network Engineer=20 > MCT, MCSE, Linux+=20 > tel://720.333.LANS=20 >=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: ceil420 at gmail.com To: ut3 at icculus.org Sent: Friday, February 6, 200= 9 11:16:02 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain=20 > Subject: Re: [ut3] Official release date=20 >=20 > Except that we originally weren't told 'in the future'. The dealer told u= s the GPS was included. The dealer lied. At least admit _that_ much.=20 >=20 > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry=20 >=20 >=20 > From : Sir Brizz=20 > Date : Fri, 06 Feb 2009 11:08:33 -0700=20 > To :< ut3 at icculus.org > Subject : Re: [ut3] Official release date=20 >=20 >=20 > Yes, Linux is not suitable for games. Actually, Linux is fine for games, = games are simply not made for Linux. So if you're a PC gamer, anything but = Windows is not a choice (and if you say Wine works great, I'll slap you).= =20 >=20 > Now, I do have to admit a little guilt in responding here, because I knew= all you guys like to bitch and moan anytime someone comes in here that doe= sn't agree with you, but sorry. The reality of this situation is that you a= re bitter and want to blame someone other than yourselves. This is really m= ore like if you called up the dealership, asked if the car had GPS, told no= but it should be released free at some point in the future, bought the car= anyway and then proceeded to complain that the GPS was still not out after= a year. You bought the car despite the fact that it was missing the one th= ing you wanted it for, you're the one to blame in that scenario.=20 >=20 > Brizz=20 >=20 > On 2/6/09 10:39 AM, [FnG] Lambik wrote:=20 >=20 >=20 > The person that told 'It has GPS in it' happens to be the salesperson, an= d then yes you can expect to have GPS in it !=20 > Not sure what kind of point you're trying to make, but seems to me your o= nly business here is to stir thing up,=20 > as you have state to play games on windows only.(Linux not suitable ??)= =20 > Pre ordering a game has the risk of getting something that isn't quite wh= at you expect of it, but in this case there has been promised support for l= inux OS aswell.=20 > Epic has the reputation to support linux on all UT series, which has form= ed a good basis of trust, which they have broken, and that is why ppl are u= pset with EPIC.=20 > That is something they have every right to.=20 >=20 > Lambik=20 >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Sir Brizz< sir.brizz at gmail.com > wrote:= =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > For what? They didn't market UT3 as having Linux binaries included or ava= ilable.=20 >=20 > The problem here is that Epic never guaranteed anything. I appreciate you= wanting brand new boxes or whatever your case may be, however that doesn't= change the fact that you bought something that didn't include the sole thi= ng you bought it for. Can you imagine, taking this same thing to a more ter= rible and surely less appropriate analogy, if you bought a car because some= one said it had GPS in it, never test drove it, and realized after purchasi= ng it that it didn't have GPS in it? Would you blame the person who told yo= u or yourself for not looking into it more?=20 >=20 > I understand that people wanted and were expecting and (possibly) promise= d Linux binaries and are upset, but, frankly, you DON'T have anyone to blam= e but yourself if you paid the money for it already. Did Epic make you spen= d that money? YOU were encouraged by what they said, YOU made a decision, a= nd YOU spent the money.=20 >=20 > Brizz=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 2/6/09 10:14 AM, Luiz Gustavo Angelo wrote:=20 >=20 > Epic could be sued by this, couldn't ??=20 >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Matthias Bach< marix at marix.org > wrote:= =20 >=20 >=20 > Hi!=20 >=20 >=20 > On Friday 06 February 2009 17:57:02 Sir Brizz wrote:=20 >=20 > And for those of you whining about how you bought the game and haven't=20 > played it because there is no Linux client, sorry but maybe you should=20 > have waited to buy it until there actually was the only thing you were=20 > buying it for? That seems like the practical thing to do in any=20 > situation. You are missing the point. When I ordered the game there had b= een a statement=20 > by Epic that there would be a Linux-Installer on disc, as it had been wit= h=20 > 2K4. Later they said it wouldn't be on disk, but available on the day of= =20 > release. Therefore, as I kind of like to have nice game boxes that I can = show=20 > of, I did not bother to cancel my preorder. The problem is that I trusted= Epic=20 > to keep to their promises.=20 >=20 > Did you buy Prey the day it came out hoping that Ryan Gordon=20 > would release a Linux binary for it, too? No I didn't, because nobody pro= mised that Prey would be ported. When it=20 > finally was ported this was a pleasent surprise.=20 >=20 > If you want to be a thrifty=20 > consumer, then be thrifty. And if you aren't thrifty, don't whine that=20 > you made a mistake and try to blame it on Epic or anyone else. You don't= =20 > have anyone to blame but yourselves. Maybe I have, but then it is not for= expecting Epic to make a port, but for=20 > trusting Epic to deliver the software I ordered.=20 >=20 > Personally, I'm sure a Linux binary will eventually come out for UT3 and= =20 > when it does I will probably use it. Maybe it will, after all it's alread= y supposed to be done. The real question=20 > is, will their still body to play against. Will the engine still be somet= hing=20 > competitive to base your mods on? By the time it will probably take one c= ould=20 > just as well start writing an own engine ...=20 >=20 > Regards,=20 > Matthias=20 >=20 > ---=20 > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org=20 > Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 ---=20 To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org=20 Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64=20 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Mar 12 03:23:25 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:23:25 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Yes, it's just good to hear ANYTHING. Silence could mean anything, "No ETA" means that at least they haven't scrapped it yet. "I also think EPIC will not put any resources in recoding a buggy version of UT3 to a Linux/Mac version untill they are 'sure' to have a solid UT3 version. Else they would have to maintain multiple versions(Windows/Consoles/Valve/Linux/Mac/'not-sure-which-versions-are-promised') of UT3, and testing them all too." This is possibly a perfectly good point. It could be that the Linux binary has been done for quite a while now and ready to go but Epic wanted to wait to release it until the expansion pack comes out (basically UT3's UT2004). "About your 1) you almost sound like a salesman, forgetting the details when it's convenient, patches followed up a bit more rapidly then you stated, you only stated the final patches." And that was intentional. I don't really presume to know much about the inner working of Epic's business, however I do understand that they have hundreds of licensees they have to support, two game franchises, three subsidiaries they have to manage, etc. They are not the small company that made Unreal/UT or the only slightly larger company that made UT2003/UT2004. They have A LOT more going on in their business model than they did before, and really this only helps to explain the time between patches for UT3 (let alone that they are now supporting three platforms for it). I'm happy that they are continuing support at all. The way they've been treated over it, they could have just abandoned it and moved on to something else. Brizz On 2/9/09 2:24 PM, [FnG] Lambik wrote: "And this discussion between you and I here has little, if not nothing, to do with the Linux binaries, so I'm not sure why you are even bringing them up in that respect" As I see the complaints about the linux binary is basicly the support EPIC is giving(not or verly little), and that is not only linux related, but on UT3 in general. I understand you can't give a timeline, you're only working with info handed to you, fair enough. Still that information is still the same as we got a year ago :S, so basicly it's not news, it's confirming that nothing has changed.(still good, this is still better then when they would have binned it :-) ) I also think EPIC will not put any resources in recoding a buggy version of UT3 to a Linux/Mac version untill they are 'sure' to have a solid UT3 version. Else they would have to maintain multiple versions(Windows/Consoles/Valve/Linux/Mac/'not-sure-which-versions-are-promised') of UT3, and testing them all too. It is weird that they don't have a planning yet on when the linux binary will see the light, they will atleast have a planning like 'not this year' or 'we start after the massive patch with recoding', but nothing of the kind. Sorry, but I am not very possitive about this. About your 1) you almost sound like a salesman, forgetting the details when it's convenient, patches followed up a bit more rapidly then you stated, you only stated the final patches. but you're right that has nothing to do with the linuxbinary discussion, sorry for that. Lambik PS. You do type a lot faster then I do :P On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Sir Brizz < sir.brizz at gmail.com > wrote: You obviously had no intention to read my last email, right? 1) No, it's not what you mentioned at all. Unreal never had all it's problems fixed, UT came out by the time that happened (only 18 months later) :p UT2003, as well, never had final patch that fixed all of it's problems, UT2004 came out before that (roughly 18 months later). Now, we are getting a patch which, after all the most major bugs have ALREADY been fixed, fixes almost every single complaint people have with the game ROUGHLY 18 MONTHS LATER. What has seriously changed here? 2) My point with my second statement is that the demo should have told you all the story you needed to know. If you couldn't have been more unhappy with the demo, why did you buy the game? They couldn't have fixed the thinga that made you unhappy in Two Weeks (tm). RC7 doesn't prove anything, as I said before it could have been a manufacturing mishap for all you know. And this discussion between you and I here has little, if not nothing, to do with the Linux binaries, so I'm not sure why you are even bringing them up in that respect. I can't give you a timeline, all Steve said was that it is still being worked on and he has no ETA. I'm personally just happy to know that they haven't binned it after all this time. I wasn't being vague, I was passing along information. Brizz On 2/9/09 1:37 PM, [FnG] Lambik wrote: You do copy well Sir Brizz ;) 1) that is exactly what I also mentioned, but thanks anyway {In the past EPIC had released UT versions which at start had problems, performance, bugs, etc, but they did fix the urgent matters within weeks, and the other stuff after a few months} 2) this is no more info then 1) already displaying, what is your point with statement 2) ? The RC7 thing proves it's a rush job, but that isn't the big issue, it's the support afterwards, like ~ 1?? year later a massive patch is planned :( Again the mentioned 'massive patch' doesn't say if the linux server will be released, not even to mention the linux/Mac client. The server side has been supported for linux, I am wondering will it be released at the same time or again ~ week later. [quote "Sir Brizz"]I thought some of you might like to know that Steve Polge just contacted me and told me that the Linux binary has not been abandoned.[\quote] ;-) You sound like EPIC, just as vague. If you are in contact with him, could you ask him to be a bit more specific on the "when" ? Because that is the real question here, but ofcourse you do know that. Please take your time reading, that saves communication :P Lambik On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Sir Brizz < sir.brizz at gmail.com > wrote: I'd say you had plenty of indications that the game was not going to live u to your expectations. 1) Epic has always had subpar releases of Unreal games on the first installment of an engine version. See: Unreal, UT2003/Unreal 2. 2) The demo was released only a couple of weeks before the game went gold. They couldn't possibly have improved it much in that time. There are even more than that but those are simply the key things you could have looked at before buying the game. As for it being "RC7", what is that supposed to prove? RC stands for Release Candidate, so no matter what they released it would have been a release candidate. If you're talking about the labeling on the meta info of the disc, are you sure that wasn't a manufacturing mishap? :p If you look at the patch notes for the massive patch that they are releasing soon, you'll see that Epic HAS been listening to feedback all this time, despite what the pessimists in the community would have everyone believe. Epic has always listened to constructive feedback on their games (at least UT) and this patch proves they still do, the people that are complaining now are the ones who didn't give any constructive feedback so their voices weren't heard. Brizz On 2/9/09 12:08 PM, [FnG] Lambik wrote: [quote "Sir Brizz"]They delivered a functional game. If you bought it the way it was packaged, you have no one to blame but yourself if it disappoints you.[\quote] It's not only the linux community, but the wide spread of PC gamers are complaining about the support that EPIC has shown the past year. The product which was released was not finished, infact I bought a S.E. version which was actualy the RC.7 :S I did not buy it to play it on linux, but even the windows version was not the quality we as UT community are use to. In the past EPIC had released UT versions which at start had problems, performance, bugs, etc, but they did fix the urgent matters within weeks, and the other stuff after a few months. That is what this community was expecting with this release too, giving support, using the feedback we as UT ppl were supplying to improve the game, giving the ppl the sense they are part of the process. When you take a look at how many servers that are running and being used, compare that with any other game of the same level, then EPIC should be ashamed. A successor of UT2k4 should atleast contain the same functionality. So in short to Sir Brizz, yes we are only to blame but ourselfes . The fact remains that we are entitled to spread the word that EPIC has failed to keep their promise, that they have let down our trust, that our advise is not to buy the game. You may call it complaining, I see it as warning other users for the bad quality game EPIC has created. EPIC has proven the following : "Results of the past are never a guarentee for the future" just my 2 cts, Lambik On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:45 PM, < ceil420 at gmail.com > wrote: Well I'm tired of you acting as though Linux users that bought the game just did so with no promise of functionality in their platform of choice. They were led to believe they would be able to play the game on Linux at or shortly after release. The blame for the wasted money may be 80% on the players, but Epic themselves also shoulder some of that blame. Especially considering their history of Tux-friendliness; particularly with this line of games. This isn't Blizzard or EA we're talking about, but a company known to support. Linux with past titles, and one that promised playability with the latest as well. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Sir Brizz < sir.brizz at gmail.com > Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 11:38:25 To: < ut3 at icculus.org > Subject: Re: [ut3] Official release date Fair enough, My response to your message wasn't really intended to target you. I can completely understand people buying the game with the expectation that the client would get released, I just wish people on here would use a little more brain power instead of just slapping the blame on Epic as if they had no involvement in the decision making process at all. Brizz On 2/6/09 11:32 AM, David L. Willson wrote: 
I didn't personally buy the game, but I understand the motivation of those that did. It's important to show approval for ISV's that are allowing their customers freedom of choice. The best way to show that approval is to buy their stuph. I think it's important to wait until the cross-platform goal is achieved, but I understand the desire to reward Epic's promise or intent. I wanted to, too, but because I've been in software a while, I thought it better to wait and reward achievement. 

David L. Willson 
Network Engineer 
MCT, MCSE, Linux+ 
tel://720.333.LANS 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sir Brizz"< sir.brizz at gmail.com > 
To: ut3 at icculus.org 
Sent: Friday, February 6, 2009 11:26:53 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain 
Subject: Re: [ut3] Official release date 

Well, this post: 

http://utforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=584654 

Was made 5 days before the game shipped, and indicates that the Linux binary was not ready (something that could have easily been inferred from other forum posts around the same time). 

And, I'm sorry if you're trusting, but, frankly, the Linux binary could come out in 5 years and they wouldn't have lied. They never gave a timeline, and if you assumed that it was about to be released, you were fooling yourself into it. 

I agree that the binary should be out by now, but I'm not involved in Epic's business so I don't know what is holding it back. Recent posts by Ryan Gordon suggest that the binary is practically (if not completely) done, but it's likely stuck behind the same legal hurdle that it was before. What is Epic meant to do about that? 

And it just doesn't change the fact that Epic didn't do anything but give you consolation that a binary would come out at some future point, and based on that you made the decision to buy the game. You still bought the game knowing that what you were buying it for did not exist yet. That was your decision, not Epic's. 

Brizz 

On 2/6/09 11:20 AM, David L. Willson wrote: 

There's that fine line again, Brizz. Epic (your car dealer) didn't say "should be". They said, originally, that it "would be" in the box. Then just before release they said, "OK, it's not going to make it into the box, but it will be released." Not "should be", but "will be". Which led some trusting souls to buy the game on faith, led other, less trusting souls to wait, and then led trusting and non-trusting souls alike, to, at some point, say, "Well, what the ~fuck~, Epic?" 

David L. Willson 
Network Engineer 
MCT, MCSE, Linux+ 
tel://720.333.LANS 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: ceil420 at gmail.com To: ut3 at icculus.org Sent: Friday, February 6, 2009 11:16:02 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain 
Subject: Re: [ut3] Official release date 

Except that we originally weren't told 'in the future'. The dealer told us the GPS was included. The dealer lied. At least admit _that_ much. 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry 



From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Thu Mar 12 03:23:25 2009
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com ()
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:23:25 -0000
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: 


Yes, Linux is not suitable for games. Actually, Linux is fine for games, games are simply not made for Linux. So if you're a PC gamer, anything but Windows is not a choice (and if you say Wine works great, I'll slap you). 

Now, I do have to admit a little guilt in responding here, because I knew all you guys like to bitch and moan anytime someone comes in here that doesn't agree with you, but sorry. The reality of this situation is that you are bitter and want to blame someone other than yourselves. This is really more like if you called up the dealership, asked if the car had GPS, told no but it should be released free at some point in the future, bought the car anyway and then proceeded to complain that the GPS was still not out after a year. You bought the car despite the fact that it was missing the one thing you wanted it for, you're the one to blame in that scenario. 

Brizz 

On 2/6/09 10:39 AM, [FnG] Lambik wrote: 


The person that told 'It has GPS in it' happens to be the salesperson, and then yes you can expect to have GPS in it ! 
Not sure what kind of point you're trying to make, but seems to me your only business here is to stir thing up, 
as you have state to play games on windows only.(Linux not suitable ??) 
Pre ordering a game has the risk of getting something that isn't quite what you expect of it, but in this case there has been promised support for linux OS aswell. 
Epic has the reputation to support linux on all UT series, which has formed a good basis of trust, which they have broken, and that is why ppl are upset with EPIC. 
That is something they have every right to. 

Lambik 


On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Sir Brizz< sir.brizz at gmail.com > wrote: 



For what? They didn't market UT3 as having Linux binaries included or available. 

The problem here is that Epic never guaranteed anything. I appreciate you wanting brand new boxes or whatever your case may be, however that doesn't change the fact that you bought something that didn't include the sole thing you bought it for. Can you imagine, taking this same thing to a more terrible and surely less appropriate analogy, if you bought a car because someone said it had GPS in it, never test drove it, and realized after purchasing it that it didn't have GPS in it? Would you blame the person who told you or yourself for not looking into it more? 

I understand that people wanted and were expecting and (possibly) promised Linux binaries and are upset, but, frankly, you DON'T have anyone to blame but yourself if you paid the money for it already. Did Epic make you spend that money? YOU were encouraged by what they said, YOU made a decision, and YOU spent the money. 

Brizz 



On 2/6/09 10:14 AM, Luiz Gustavo Angelo wrote: 

Epic could be sued by this, couldn't ?? 


On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Matthias Bach< marix at marix.org > wrote: 


Hi! 


On Friday 06 February 2009 17:57:02 Sir Brizz wrote: 

And for those of you whining about how you bought the game and haven't 
played it because there is no Linux client, sorry but maybe you should 
have waited to buy it until there actually was the only thing you were 
buying it for? That seems like the practical thing to do in any 
situation. You are missing the point. When I ordered the game there had been a statement 
by Epic that there would be a Linux-Installer on disc, as it had been with 
2K4. Later they said it wouldn't be on disk, but available on the day of 
release. Therefore, as I kind of like to have nice game boxes that I can show 
of, I did not bother to cancel my preorder. The problem is that I trusted Epic 
to keep to their promises. 

Did you buy Prey the day it came out hoping that Ryan Gordon 
would release a Linux binary for it, too? No I didn't, because nobody promised that Prey would be ported. When it 
finally was ported this was a pleasent surprise. 

If you want to be a thrifty 
consumer, then be thrifty. And if you aren't thrifty, don't whine that 
you made a mistake and try to blame it on Epic or anyone else. You don't 
have anyone to blame but yourselves. Maybe I have, but then it is not for expecting Epic to make a port, but for 
trusting Epic to deliver the software I ordered. 

Personally, I'm sure a Linux binary will eventually come out for UT3 and 
when it does I will probably use it. Maybe it will, after all it's already supposed to be done. The real question 
is, will their still body to play against. Will the engine still be something 
competitive to base your mods on? By the time it will probably take one could 
just as well start writing an own engine ... 

Regards, 
Matthias 

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--------------010803050104020607080204-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Mar 12 03:23:25 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:23:25 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: If you ask me, these threads on this mailing list simply emphasize that the= re are an unreasonably high number of unreasonable people subscribed here, = and that is probably the reason why no official people see any reason to co= ntinue posting on here.=20 :)=20 Brizz=20 On 2/20/09 10:52 AM, Daniel Eckl wrote:=20 > I'm on the wrong list because I think it's moronic to blame somebody else= for something you did yourself?=20 No. Not at all. It's okay when you think so. Perhaps you are even right, wh= o knows. I want to judge that.=20 But face it: You can't stop it this way. You tell it every single one who c= omplains here, but notice that this did not stop a single one from doing so= .=20 But notice the other thing:=20 Normally, when one complains, perhaps one or two would join and the subject= is done again for the next few days.=20 And now look at this thread. One was complaining, you again state your thou= ghts about that and voil=C3=A0! we have a 20 messages thread and still coun= ting.=20 So if you really are pissed about useless mails on this list, then all you = need to do is to restrain your finger when your mouse cursor is hovering ov= er the reply button.=20 Best,=20 Daniel=20 On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 18:42, Sir Brizz < sir.brizz at gmail.com > wrote:=20 I'm on the wrong list because I think it's moronic to blame somebody else f= or something you did yourself? Okay...=20 I want the Linux client as much as the next person and I wish Epic could or= would give better updates on it's progress (or, at leat, Ryan) but it's po= intless to sit around whining about buying the game. Call the BBB or get ov= er it.=20 Brizz=20 On 2/20/09 10:39 AM, David L. Willson wrote:=20 I must have misunderstood you. =C2=A0You closed your post with: "...contact= your local Better Business Bureau and ask them if you=20 have a case. I'm willing to bet you don't."=20 Well, I'm "willing to bet" he does. =C2=A0Epic seems to have admitted as mu= ch by offering the other fellow store credit.=20 What did you mean by the words "willing to bet"?=20 Go piss up a rope, Brizz. =C2=A0You're on the wrong list, as the other, oth= er guy said so kindly and gently.=20 --David=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Sir Brizz"< sir.brizz at gmail.com >=20 To: ut3 at icculus.org=20 Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:34:04 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain= =20 Subject: Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3=20 Why would I bet on it? Just have him go do it. If they take his case, great= , he'll get his money back and he can go blame someone else for other crap = in his life.=20 I'm really honestly not defending Epic in this case, just because you made = a crap buying decision doesn't somehow make someone else responsible for th= at. If you're mad, be mad about something real, don't fabricate something e= lse to make it seem like it's even worse than it really is.=20 If you want to complain about the fact there is no Linux client, be my gues= t. But don't act like Epic put a gun to your head, walked you to the game s= tore, took the money out of your wallet and gave it to the cashier then ran= away clicking their heels and laughing. What's with the desire to blame so= meone else for your own stupidity?=20 Brizz=20 On 2/20/09 10:29 AM, David L. Willson wrote:=20 And I still think you're full of shit, Brizz. =C2=A0I'll take $5. =C2=A0If = the BBB (or equivalent) accepts his complaint and adds it to their shit lis= t for Epic, I win. =C2=A0If they feel that his complaint is baseless, you w= in. =C2=A0Do we have a bet?=20 --David=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Sir Brizz"< sir.brizz at gmail.com > =C2=A0To: ut3 at icculus.org Sent: Fr= iday, February 20, 2009 10:11:39 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain=20 Subject: Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3=20 Do we need to go through this again? Purchasing something you didn't=20 want or couldn't use is your own fault. I suggest if you are so torn up=20 over it to contact your local Better Business Bureau and ask them if you=20 have a case. I'm willing to bet you don't.=20 Brizz=20 On 2/20/09 10:04 AM, jeff wrote:=20 I tried pretty hard, and epic told me that in good faith they would=20 send me a sealed box that I could return to gamestop, which would only=20 give me current value of the game or an exchange.. =C2=A0Which I felt wasnt= =20 fair and that I deserved full price for the game, not to mention it=20 would be punishing the wrong people. =C2=A0Epic deserves to pay for this,= =20 not the retailers.=20 Chris wrote:=20 Has anyone managed to get their money back? =C2=A0I mean it has been over a= =20 year and I broke the seal on mine but I never play the game because I=20 don't run Windows (except in a VM). =C2=A0My whole purchase was based on=20 the fact that they have always released Linux versions and they said=20 they would continue that with UT3. =C2=A0I want my money back.=20 CR=20 On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Alberto< albertodetena at gmail.com > =C2=A0w= rote:=20 ..........and what about a linux client I wonder?=20 I feel laughed at by Epic. ---=20 To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org Mailing l= ist archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 ---=20 To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org Mailing l= ist archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 ---=20 To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org Mailing l= ist archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 ---=20 To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org Mailing l= ist archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64=20 ---=20 To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org=20 Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64=20 =C2=A0=20 ---=20 To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org=20 Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64=20 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Mar 12 03:23:25 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:23:25 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Wow, it's really crazy with all the other things happening in this day and = age (economy for one), you people are still bitching about being screwed an= d blaming Epic.=C2=A0 Yes, there is no UT3 Linux client, I would love one, = but damn, it was well over 15-16 months ago, haven't you guys moved on to s= omething else, or does your entire life of existence live and breath moanin= g and complaining about Epic screwing you out of UT3 Linux client?=20 I find it entertaining once and a while when someone posts a "any news abou= t the UT3 Linux client" message, especially if a couple months go by and th= is list is inactive.=C2=A0 But once that first email comes out, then everyo= ne gets on their "Epic screwed us, we want our client or money back" bandwa= gon, and now it appears that you guys are attacking Sir Brizz for stating f= acts and reason and offering other courses of action, but you guys just won= 't have it.=20 do you know how many other games are out there that we can play, go friggen= play them!=C2=A0 Get out of your parents basement and trade in your copy o= f UT3 so you can move the F on.=C2=A0 jeezuz.=20 If I were Ryan, I too would ignore the bunch of whiny baby's here.=20 On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Sir Brizz < sir.brizz at gmail.com > wrote:= =20 I'm 100% positive he is. :) Actually, I bet that's why he made this mailing= list! So he'd have a group of people to ignore! :)=20 Brizz=20 On 2/20/09 11:14 AM, ceil420 at gmail.com wrote:=20 The only 'official' person I've ever seen post here is Gordon, and he's pro= bably in hiding to avoid taking the brunt of the users vs. Epic confrontati= on.=20 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry=20 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Mar 12 03:23:25 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:23:25 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: If you ask me, these threads on this mailing list simply emphasize that the= re are an unreasonably high number of unreasonable people subscribed here, = and that is probably the reason why no official people see any reason to co= ntinue posting on here.=20 :)=20 Brizz=20 On 2/20/09 10:52 AM, Daniel Eckl wrote:=20 > I'm on the wrong list because I think it's moronic to blame somebody else= for something you did yourself?=20 No. Not at all. It's okay when you think so. Perhaps you are even right, wh= o knows. I want to judge that.=20 But face it: You can't stop it this way. You tell it every single one who c= omplains here, but notice that this did not stop a single one from doing so= .=20 But notice the other thing:=20 Normally, when one complains, perhaps one or two would join and the subject= is done again for the next few days.=20 And now look at this thread. One was complaining, you again state your thou= ghts about that and voil=C3=A0! we have a 20 messages thread and still coun= ting.=20 So if you really are pissed about useless mails on this list, then all you = need to do is to restrain your finger when your mouse cursor is hovering ov= er the reply button.=20 Best,=20 Daniel=20 On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 18:42, Sir Brizz < sir.brizz at gmail.com > wrote:=20 I'm on the wrong list because I think it's moronic to blame somebody else f= or something you did yourself? Okay...=20 I want the Linux client as much as the next person and I wish Epic could or= would give better updates on it's progress (or, at leat, Ryan) but it's po= intless to sit around whining about buying the game. Call the BBB or get ov= er it.=20 Brizz=20 On 2/20/09 10:39 AM, David L. Willson wrote:=20 I must have misunderstood you. =C2=A0You closed your post with: "...contact= your local Better Business Bureau and ask them if you=20 have a case. I'm willing to bet you don't."=20 Well, I'm "willing to bet" he does. =C2=A0Epic seems to have admitted as mu= ch by offering the other fellow store credit.=20 What did you mean by the words "willing to bet"?=20 Go piss up a rope, Brizz. =C2=A0You're on the wrong list, as the other, oth= er guy said so kindly and gently.=20 --David=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Sir Brizz"< sir.brizz at gmail.com >=20 To: ut3 at icculus.org=20 Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:34:04 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain= =20 Subject: Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3=20 Why would I bet on it? Just have him go do it. If they take his case, great= , he'll get his money back and he can go blame someone else for other crap = in his life.=20 I'm really honestly not defending Epic in this case, just because you made = a crap buying decision doesn't somehow make someone else responsible for th= at. If you're mad, be mad about something real, don't fabricate something e= lse to make it seem like it's even worse than it really is.=20 If you want to complain about the fact there is no Linux client, be my gues= t. But don't act like Epic put a gun to your head, walked you to the game s= tore, took the money out of your wallet and gave it to the cashier then ran= away clicking their heels and laughing. What's with the desire to blame so= meone else for your own stupidity?=20 Brizz=20 On 2/20/09 10:29 AM, David L. Willson wrote:=20 And I still think you're full of shit, Brizz. =C2=A0I'll take $5. =C2=A0If = the BBB (or equivalent) accepts his complaint and adds it to their shit lis= t for Epic, I win. =C2=A0If they feel that his complaint is baseless, you w= in. =C2=A0Do we have a bet?=20 --David=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Sir Brizz"< sir.brizz at gmail.com > =C2=A0To: ut3 at icculus.org Sent: Fr= iday, February 20, 2009 10:11:39 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain=20 Subject: Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3=20 Do we need to go through this again? Purchasing something you didn't=20 want or couldn't use is your own fault. I suggest if you are so torn up=20 over it to contact your local Better Business Bureau and ask them if you=20 have a case. I'm willing to bet you don't.=20 Brizz=20 On 2/20/09 10:04 AM, jeff wrote:=20 I tried pretty hard, and epic told me that in good faith they would=20 send me a sealed box that I could return to gamestop, which would only=20 give me current value of the game or an exchange.. =C2=A0Which I felt wasnt= =20 fair and that I deserved full price for the game, not to mention it=20 would be punishing the wrong people. =C2=A0Epic deserves to pay for this,= =20 not the retailers.=20 Chris wrote:=20 Has anyone managed to get their money back? =C2=A0I mean it has been over a= =20 year and I broke the seal on mine but I never play the game because I=20 don't run Windows (except in a VM). =C2=A0My whole purchase was based on=20 the fact that they have always released Linux versions and they said=20 they would continue that with UT3. =C2=A0I want my money back.=20 CR=20 On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Alberto< albertodetena at gmail.com > =C2=A0w= rote:=20 ..........and what about a linux client I wonder?=20 I feel laughed at by Epic. ---=20 To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org Mailing l= ist archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 ---=20 To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org Mailing l= ist archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 ---=20 To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org Mailing l= ist archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 ---=20 To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org Mailing l= ist archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64=20 ---=20 To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org=20 Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64=20 =C2=A0=20 ---=20 To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org=20 Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64=20 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Mar 12 03:23:25 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:23:25 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Wow, it's really crazy with all the other things happening in this day and age (economy for one), you people are still bitching about being screwed and blaming Epic.?? Yes, there is no UT3 Linux client, I would love one, but damn, it was well over 15-16 months ago, haven't you guys moved on to something else, or does your entire life of existence live and breath moaning and complaining about Epic screwing you out of UT3 Linux client? I find it entertaining once and a while when someone posts a "any news about the UT3 Linux client" message, especially if a couple months go by and this list is inactive.?? But once that first email comes out, then everyone gets on their "Epic screwed us, we want our client or money back" bandwagon, and now it appears that you guys are attacking Sir Brizz for stating facts and reason and offering other courses of action, but you guys just won't have it. do you know how many other games are out there that we can play, go friggen play them!?? Get out of your parents basement and trade in your copy of UT3 so you can move the F on.?? jeezuz. If I were Ryan, I too would ignore the bunch of whiny baby's here. On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Sir Brizz < sir.brizz at gmail.com > wrote: I'm 100% positive he is. :) Actually, I bet that's why he made this mailing list! So he'd have a group of people to ignore! :) Brizz On 2/20/09 11:14 AM, ceil420 at gmail.com wrote: The only 'official' person I've ever seen post here is Gordon, and he's probably in hiding to avoid taking the brunt of the users vs. Epic confrontation. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Mar 12 03:23:25 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:23:25 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: If you ask me, these threads on this mailing list simply emphasize that there are an unreasonably high number of unreasonable people subscribed here, and that is probably the reason why no official people see any reason to continue posting on here. :) Brizz On 2/20/09 10:52 AM, Daniel Eckl wrote: 
I'm on the wrong list because I think it's moronic to blame somebody else for something you did yourself? 
    

No. Not at all. It's okay when you think so. Perhaps you are even right, who knows. I want to judge that. 

But face it: You can't stop it this way. You tell it every single one who complains here, but notice that this did not stop a single one from doing so. 

But notice the other thing: 
Normally, when one complains, perhaps one or two would join and the subject is done again for the next few days. 
And now look at this thread. One was complaining, you again state your thoughts about that and voil??! we have a 20 messages thread and still counting. 

So if you really are pissed about useless mails on this list, then all you need to do is to restrain your finger when your mouse cursor is hovering over the reply button. 

Best, 
Daniel 


On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 18:42, Sir Brizz < sir.brizz at gmail.com > wrote: 


I'm on the wrong list because I think it's moronic to blame somebody else for something you did yourself? Okay... 

I want the Linux client as much as the next person and I wish Epic could or would give better updates on it's progress (or, at leat, Ryan) but it's pointless to sit around whining about buying the game. Call the BBB or get over it. 

Brizz 



On 2/20/09 10:39 AM, David L. Willson wrote: 


I must have misunderstood you. ??You closed your post with: "...contact your local Better Business Bureau and ask them if you 
have a case. I'm willing to bet you don't." 

Well, I'm "willing to bet" he does. ??Epic seems to have admitted as much by offering the other fellow store credit. 

What did you mean by the words "willing to bet"? 

Go piss up a rope, Brizz. ??You're on the wrong list, as the other, other guy said so kindly and gently. 

--David 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sir Brizz"< sir.brizz at gmail.com > 
To: ut3 at icculus.org 
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:34:04 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain 
Subject: Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3 

Why would I bet on it? Just have him go do it. If they take his case, great, he'll get his money back and he can go blame someone else for other crap in his life. 

I'm really honestly not defending Epic in this case, just because you made a crap buying decision doesn't somehow make someone else responsible for that. If you're mad, be mad about something real, don't fabricate something else to make it seem like it's even worse than it really is. 

If you want to complain about the fact there is no Linux client, be my guest. But don't act like Epic put a gun to your head, walked you to the game store, took the money out of your wallet and gave it to the cashier then ran away clicking their heels and laughing. What's with the desire to blame someone else for your own stupidity? 

Brizz 

On 2/20/09 10:29 AM, David L. Willson wrote: 

And I still think you're full of shit, Brizz. ??I'll take $5. ??If the BBB (or equivalent) accepts his complaint and adds it to their shit list for Epic, I win. ??If they feel that his complaint is baseless, you win. ??Do we have a bet? 

--David 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sir Brizz"< sir.brizz at gmail.com > ??To: ut3 at icculus.org Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:11:39 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain 
Subject: Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3 

Do we need to go through this again? Purchasing something you didn't 
want or couldn't use is your own fault. I suggest if you are so torn up 
over it to contact your local Better Business Bureau and ask them if you 
have a case. I'm willing to bet you don't. 

Brizz 

On 2/20/09 10:04 AM, jeff wrote: 

I tried pretty hard, and epic told me that in good faith they would 
send me a sealed box that I could return to gamestop, which would only 
give me current value of the game or an exchange.. ??Which I felt wasnt 
fair and that I deserved full price for the game, not to mention it 
would be punishing the wrong people. ??Epic deserves to pay for this, 
not the retailers. 

Chris wrote: 

Has anyone managed to get their money back? ??I mean it has been over a 
year and I broke the seal on mine but I never play the game because I 
don't run Windows (except in a VM). ??My whole purchase was based on 
the fact that they have always released Linux versions and they said 
they would continue that with UT3. ??I want my money back. 

CR 


On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Alberto< albertodetena at gmail.com > ??wrote: 

..........and what about a linux client I wonder? 


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--------------060304010306000803060409-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Mar 12 03:23:25 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:23:25 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Wow, it's really crazy with all the other things happening in this day and = age (economy for one), you people are still bitching about being screwed an= d blaming Epic.=C2=A0 Yes, there is no UT3 Linux client, I would love one, = but damn, it was well over 15-16 months ago, haven't you guys moved on to s= omething else, or does your entire life of existence live and breath moanin= g and complaining about Epic screwing you out of UT3 Linux client?=20 I find it entertaining once and a while when someone posts a "any news abou= t the UT3 Linux client" message, especially if a couple months go by and th= is list is inactive.=C2=A0 But once that first email comes out, then everyo= ne gets on their "Epic screwed us, we want our client or money back" bandwa= gon, and now it appears that you guys are attacking Sir Brizz for stating f= acts and reason and offering other courses of action, but you guys just won= 't have it.=20 do you know how many other games are out there that we can play, go friggen= play them!=C2=A0 Get out of your parents basement and trade in your copy o= f UT3 so you can move the F on.=C2=A0 jeezuz.=20 If I were Ryan, I too would ignore the bunch of whiny baby's here.=20 On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Sir Brizz < sir.brizz at gmail.com > wrote:= =20 I'm 100% positive he is. :) Actually, I bet that's why he made this mailing= list! So he'd have a group of people to ignore! :)=20 Brizz=20 On 2/20/09 11:14 AM, ceil420 at gmail.com wrote:=20 The only 'official' person I've ever seen post here is Gordon, and he's pro= bably in hiding to avoid taking the brunt of the users vs. Epic confrontati= on.=20 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry=20 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Mar 12 03:23:25 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:23:25 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: If you ask me, these threads on this mailing list simply emphasize that the= re are an unreasonably high number of unreasonable people subscribed here, = and that is probably the reason why no official people see any reason to co= ntinue posting on here.=20 :)=20 Brizz=20 On 2/20/09 10:52 AM, Daniel Eckl wrote:=20 I'm on the wrong list because I think it's moronic to blame somebody else f= or something you did yourself? No. Not at all. It's okay when you think so.= Perhaps you are even right, who knows. I want to judge that.=20 But face it: You can't stop it this way. You tell it every single one who c= omplains here, but notice that this did not stop a single one from doing so= .=20 But notice the other thing:=20 Normally, when one complains, perhaps one or two would join and the subject= is done again for the next few days.=20 And now look at this thread. One was complaining, you again state your thou= ghts about that and voil=C3=A0! we have a 20 messages thread and still coun= ting.=20 So if you really are pissed about useless mails on this list, then all you = need to do is to restrain your finger when your mouse cursor is hovering ov= er the reply button.=20 Best,=20 Daniel=20 On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 18:42, Sir Brizz < sir.brizz at gmail.com > wrote:=20 I'm on the wrong list because I think it's moronic to blame somebody else f= or something you did yourself? Okay...=20 I want the Linux client as much as the next person and I wish Epic could or= would give better updates on it's progress (or, at leat, Ryan) but it's po= intless to sit around whining about buying the game. Call the BBB or get ov= er it.=20 Brizz=20 On 2/20/09 10:39 AM, David L. Willson wrote:=20 I must have misunderstood you. =C2=A0You closed your post with: "...contact= your local Better Business Bureau and ask them if you=20 have a case. I'm willing to bet you don't."=20 Well, I'm "willing to bet" he does. =C2=A0Epic seems to have admitted as mu= ch by offering the other fellow store credit.=20 What did you mean by the words "willing to bet"?=20 Go piss up a rope, Brizz. =C2=A0You're on the wrong list, as the other, oth= er guy said so kindly and gently.=20 --David=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Sir Brizz"< sir.brizz at gmail.com >=20 To: ut3 at icculus.org Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:34:04 AM GMT -07:00 = US/Canada Mountain=20 Subject: Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3=20 Why would I bet on it? Just have him go do it. If they take his case, great= , he'll get his money back and he can go blame someone else for other crap = in his life.=20 I'm really honestly not defending Epic in this case, just because you made = a crap buying decision doesn't somehow make someone else responsible for th= at. If you're mad, be mad about something real, don't fabricate something e= lse to make it seem like it's even worse than it really is.=20 If you want to complain about the fact there is no Linux client, be my gues= t. But don't act like Epic put a gun to your head, walked you to the game s= tore, took the money out of your wallet and gave it to the cashier then ran= away clicking their heels and laughing. What's with the desire to blame so= meone else for your own stupidity?=20 Brizz=20 On 2/20/09 10:29 AM, David L. Willson wrote:=20 And I still think you're full of shit, Brizz. =C2=A0I'll take $5. =C2=A0If = the BBB (or equivalent) accepts his complaint and adds it to their shit lis= t for Epic, I win. =C2=A0If they feel that his complaint is baseless, you w= in. =C2=A0Do we have a bet?=20 --David=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Sir Brizz"< sir.brizz at gmail.com > =C2=A0To: ut3 at icculus.org Sent: Fr= iday, February 20, 2009 10:11:39 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain=20 Subject: Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3=20 Do we need to go through this again? Purchasing something you didn't=20 want or couldn't use is your own fault. I suggest if you are so torn up=20 over it to contact your local Better Business Bureau and ask them if you=20 have a case. I'm willing to bet you don't.=20 Brizz=20 On 2/20/09 10:04 AM, jeff wrote:=20 I tried pretty hard, and epic told me that in good faith they would=20 send me a sealed box that I could return to gamestop, which would only=20 give me current value of the game or an exchange.. =C2=A0Which I felt wasnt= =20 fair and that I deserved full price for the game, not to mention it=20 would be punishing the wrong people. =C2=A0Epic deserves to pay for this,= =20 not the retailers.=20 Chris wrote:=20 Has anyone managed to get their money back? =C2=A0I mean it has been over a= =20 year and I broke the seal on mine but I never play the game because I=20 don't run Windows (except in a VM). =C2=A0My whole purchase was based on=20 the fact that they have always released Linux versions and they said=20 they would continue that with UT3. =C2=A0I want my money back.=20 CR=20 On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Alberto< albertodetena at gmail.com > =C2=A0w= rote:=20 ..........and what about a linux client I wonder?=20 I feel laughed at by Epic. ---=20 To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org Mailing l= ist archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 ---=20 To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org Mailing l= ist archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 ---=20 To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org Mailing l= ist archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 ---=20 To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org Mailing l= ist archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 ---=20 To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org Mailing l= ist archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 =C2=A0=20 ---=20 To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org Mailing l= ist archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 --- To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org Mailing l= ist archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Mar 12 03:23:25 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:23:25 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Come on nVidia guys, back me up here, we can ran BackTrack4 and use CUDA to= crack WPA2 keys within 5 mins, ATi users can't do jack shit thanks to ATi = being, well frankly, ATi lol.... nVidia offered to shared PhysX, ATi said f= uck you back to them, a user tried to port it, but ended up failing because= ATi said fuck you to him=20 ATi have always been a bad company for drivers, always will be no matter wh= at OS, hell even there modern drivers look like there where designed for Wi= ndows 3.1! (You can't argue this! Just look for your self!)=20 Anyone who denys that ATi have died are idiots, Steam's Survey crap proves = they have less than 20% market share (Yes that's 70% to nVidia, nuff said!)= =20 Grow the hell up you ATi Worshipers, how can you appreciate such awful crap= , that's all ATi have ever produced, I gave up with them after my first ATi= card, which caused me constant BSOD's in Windows XP, hell the card wasn't = even usable in Linux back then, still isn't actually so you guys can STFU. = Grow up, ATi don't give two shits about support, at least nVidia do! nVidia= 's drivers =3D All features supported that the Windows Drivers Support. ATi= 's driver =3D barely anything that's supported on Windows =3D Sorry have AT= i released there CUDA Clone yet???? OMG they did it slightly better just to= be gits.... etc.....)=20 Grow up, or hell flame me calling me a liar about all this ATi stuff, i'll = own you if you do, assuming your not soo up your arse that you'll /null me = because you know I'll own you or make you go mental trying to own me fighti= ng a cause that's already lost....=20 From: UndeadDevil's Shadow [mailto: shadow at s-i-g-m-a.net ]=20 Sent: 23 February 2009 13:12=20 To: ut3 at icculus.org=20 Subject: RE: [ut3] I would be happy to just know why its been delayed=20 Prove to me that ATi's drivers are worth jack shit on Linux and i'll STFU, = so far Intel GMA Chipsets work better than any ATi chipset despite the ATi = chipset being 8x more powerful. Go check for yourself, ATi have always been= awful at writing drivers, if you want to argue that then you're not worth = even knowing as a human as your full of bullshit. (Seriously, why the hell = do you think ATi lost the frigging card war years ago? Why do you think the= y have less than 20% market share, its DRIVERS, they finally realised that = there drivers suck a year ago or so. Finally released ALPHA drivers that su= pported Compiz, well my Intel GMA 915 Chipset is more reliable than my ATi = chip on Linux, end of story. The ATi =3D Bullshit, Intel or nVidia or Hell = even a S3 Chipset =3D Decent Performance compared to the piece of crap ATi = will always come out with=20 Seriously grow up and realise that ATi are now a dead company, AMD is holdi= ng on by a little bit of thin string and they brought it on their self's, t= hey will never be one up over Intel ever again, and they deserve it for buy= ing ATi=20 From: ceil420 at gmail.com [mailto: ceil420 at gmail.com ]=20 Sent: 23 February 2009 13:08=20 To: ut3 at icculus.org=20 Subject: Re: [ut3] I would be happy to just know why its been delayed=20 Second that.=20 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry=20 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Mar 12 03:23:25 2009 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:23:25 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: I think I'll setup a pipe to /dev/null for your useless meanderings=20 On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:01 PM, UndeadDevil's Shadow < shadow at s-i-g-m-a.ne= t > wrote:=20 ATi's drivers on Linux are /dev/null (You wan't to argue this? Well your a = twat if you do=20 --- To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org Maili= ng list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64=20 --=20 Sir_Brizz=20 Technical Manager=20 sir_brizz at beyondunreal.com=20 From maillistrecipient at gothica.nl Thu Mar 5 09:05:42 2009 From: maillistrecipient at gothica.nl (maillistrecipient at gothica.nl) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:05:42 +0100 (CET) Subject: UT3 2.0 Linux server? Message-ID: <52712.82.95.128.198.1236261942.squirrel@webmail.gothica.nl> Ah yes, the etenral question for linux server files I fear. We've got Windows and Titan pack files now, any eta on Linux server patch 2.0? From loezix at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 09:09:19 2009 From: loezix at gmail.com (Luiz Gustavo Angelo) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:09:19 -0300 Subject: [ut3] UT3 2.0 Linux server? In-Reply-To: <52712.82.95.128.198.1236261942.squirrel@webmail.gothica.nl> References: <52712.82.95.128.198.1236261942.squirrel@webmail.gothica.nl> Message-ID: <92e59dd80903050609g7d011b47ya16ae5deeafd3049@mail.gmail.com> need it badly as it seems, 2.0 client doesn't connect to 1.2 or 1.3 server everybody is going to update, but there will be no server to connect ? omfg! is this correct, can anybody confirm ? (from the closed beta, i must say yes =[ :'( =/ ) thanks! On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:05 AM, wrote: > Ah yes, the etenral question for linux server files I fear. We've got > Windows and Titan pack files now, any eta on Linux server patch 2.0? > > --- > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org > Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 > > > -- Luiz Gustavo Angelo T: +55 11 75452244 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dario.raimondi at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 09:09:29 2009 From: dario.raimondi at gmail.com (Dario Raimondi) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:09:29 +0100 Subject: [ut3] UT3 2.0 Linux server? In-Reply-To: <52712.82.95.128.198.1236261942.squirrel@webmail.gothica.nl> References: <52712.82.95.128.198.1236261942.squirrel@webmail.gothica.nl> Message-ID: <1bee0f3b0903050609k6409db98lbb2ec2029dec469c@mail.gmail.com> Hopefully soon... Afaik clients with 2.0 cannot see in the server browser the older server, but they can connect to them by using the ip address, and SEEMS that everything is working fine. Of course all the fixes related to the netcode would not work. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:05 PM, wrote: > Ah yes, the etenral question for linux server files I fear. We've got > Windows and Titan pack files now, any eta on Linux server patch 2.0? > > --- > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org > Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From death at apoc.org Thu Mar 5 09:19:29 2009 From: death at apoc.org ([Apoc]Death) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:19:29 -0500 Subject: [ut3] UT3 2.0 Linux server? In-Reply-To: <1bee0f3b0903050609k6409db98lbb2ec2029dec469c@mail.gmail.com> References: <52712.82.95.128.198.1236261942.squirrel@webmail.gothica.nl> <1bee0f3b0903050609k6409db98lbb2ec2029dec469c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <173A2A19-222E-46B6-86BE-F209AF0AE0CD@apoc.org> My experiments suggest that 2.0 clients can see 1.3 servers in the server browser, including the v1.3 beta linux server. Still, many benefits of the 2.0 patch are server side. We need a linux server patch. Guess we'll just have to wait and see on that. Oh, and please, no flamewars over this thread. This goes doubly for Brizz, who should know better... ;) -Rob On Mar 5, 2009, at 9:09 AM, Dario Raimondi wrote: > Hopefully soon... > Afaik clients with 2.0 cannot see in the server browser the older > server, but they can connect to them by using the ip address, and > SEEMS that everything is working fine. > > Of course all the fixes related to the netcode would not work. > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:05 PM, wrote: > Ah yes, the etenral question for linux server files I fear. We've got > Windows and Titan pack files now, any eta on Linux server patch 2.0? > > --- > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org > Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donzi at utzone.de Thu Mar 5 09:20:18 2009 From: donzi at utzone.de (Donzi.UTzone.de) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:20:18 +0100 Subject: [ut3] UT3 2.0 Linux server? In-Reply-To: <1bee0f3b0903050609k6409db98lbb2ec2029dec469c@mail.gmail.com> References: <52712.82.95.128.198.1236261942.squirrel@webmail.gothica.nl> <1bee0f3b0903050609k6409db98lbb2ec2029dec469c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49AFDFA2.5050309@utzone.de> Windows 2.0 can see 1.3 Linux in Browser and connect to and play with them ------------ Christopher Lotz ( Donzi ) UTzone.de Admin http://www.UTzone.de http://Clan.UTzone.de Parts of Despe Networks http://www.Despe.de Dario Raimondi schrieb: > Hopefully soon... > Afaik clients with 2.0 cannot see in the server browser the older > server, but they can connect to them by using the ip address, and SEEMS > that everything is working fine. > > Of course all the fixes related to the netcode would not work. > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:05 PM, > wrote: > > Ah yes, the etenral question for linux server files I fear. We've got > Windows and Titan pack files now, any eta on Linux server patch 2.0? > > --- > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org > > Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 > > > From cbo at info-services.biz Thu Mar 5 09:41:24 2009 From: cbo at info-services.biz (Christophe BOULLANGER) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:41:24 -0400 Subject: [ut3] UT3 2.0 Linux server? In-Reply-To: <49AFDFA2.5050309@utzone.de> References: <52712.82.95.128.198.1236261942.squirrel@webmail.gothica.nl> <1bee0f3b0903050609k6409db98lbb2ec2029dec469c@mail.gmail.com> <49AFDFA2.5050309@utzone.de> Message-ID: <80B8E0EA896B3E489A5802234274BA9C5F2DAEDC5D@sandy.IS972DH.com> This game is born death -----Message d'origine----- De : Donzi.UTzone.de [mailto:donzi at utzone.de] Envoy? : jeudi 5 mars 2009 10:20 ? : ut3 at icculus.org Objet : Re: [ut3] UT3 2.0 Linux server? Windows 2.0 can see 1.3 Linux in Browser and connect to and play with them ------------ Christopher Lotz ( Donzi ) UTzone.de Admin http://www.UTzone.de http://Clan.UTzone.de Parts of Despe Networks http://www.Despe.de Dario Raimondi schrieb: > Hopefully soon... > Afaik clients with 2.0 cannot see in the server browser the older > server, but they can connect to them by using the ip address, and > SEEMS that everything is working fine. > > Of course all the fixes related to the netcode would not work. > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:05 PM, > wrote: > > Ah yes, the etenral question for linux server files I fear. We've got > Windows and Titan pack files now, any eta on Linux server patch 2.0? > > --- > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org > > Mailing list archives: > http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 > > > --- To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 From dario.raimondi at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 09:43:53 2009 From: dario.raimondi at gmail.com (Dario Raimondi) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:43:53 +0100 Subject: [ut3] UT3 2.0 Linux server? In-Reply-To: <80B8E0EA896B3E489A5802234274BA9C5F2DAEDC5D@sandy.IS972DH.com> References: <52712.82.95.128.198.1236261942.squirrel@webmail.gothica.nl> <1bee0f3b0903050609k6409db98lbb2ec2029dec469c@mail.gmail.com> <49AFDFA2.5050309@utzone.de> <80B8E0EA896B3E489A5802234274BA9C5F2DAEDC5D@sandy.IS972DH.com> Message-ID: <1bee0f3b0903050643u2f9e77aer95cf7f846b233a2d@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for the info. Your effort it's really important. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Christophe BOULLANGER wrote: > This game is born death > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Donzi.UTzone.de [mailto:donzi at utzone.de] > Envoy? : jeudi 5 mars 2009 10:20 > ? : ut3 at icculus.org > Objet : Re: [ut3] UT3 2.0 Linux server? > > Windows 2.0 can see 1.3 Linux in Browser and connect to and play with them > > > > > > ------------ > Christopher Lotz > ( Donzi ) > > UTzone.de Admin > > http://www.UTzone.de > http://Clan.UTzone.de > > > Parts of Despe Networks > http://www.Despe.de > > > Dario Raimondi schrieb: > > Hopefully soon... > > Afaik clients with 2.0 cannot see in the server browser the older > > server, but they can connect to them by using the ip address, and > > SEEMS that everything is working fine. > > > > Of course all the fixes related to the netcode would not work. > > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:05 PM, > > wrote: > > > > Ah yes, the etenral question for linux server files I fear. We've got > > Windows and Titan pack files now, any eta on Linux server patch 2.0? > > > > --- > > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org > > > > Mailing list archives: > > http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 > > > > > > > > --- > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org Mailing > list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 > > > > --- > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org > Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sir.brizz at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 09:52:06 2009 From: sir.brizz at gmail.com (Sir Brizz) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 07:52:06 -0700 Subject: [ut3] UT3 2.0 Linux server? In-Reply-To: <173A2A19-222E-46B6-86BE-F209AF0AE0CD@apoc.org> References: <52712.82.95.128.198.1236261942.squirrel@webmail.gothica.nl> <1bee0f3b0903050609k6409db98lbb2ec2029dec469c@mail.gmail.com> <173A2A19-222E-46B6-86BE-F209AF0AE0CD@apoc.org> Message-ID: <9e9730b80903050652s1890c305g87ee8a89e2096bc0@mail.gmail.com> Why would I flame over people having a reasonable discussion? :p Steam 2.0 can't see 1.3 servers, so they should get a patch out for the Linux client ASAP imo. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 7:19 AM, [Apoc]Death wrote: > My experiments suggest that 2.0 clients can see 1.3 servers in the server > browser, including the v1.3 beta linux server. > > Still, many benefits of the 2.0 patch are server side. We need a linux > server patch. Guess we'll just have to wait and see on that. > > Oh, and please, no flamewars over this thread. This goes doubly for Brizz, > who should know better... ;) > > -Rob > > On Mar 5, 2009, at 9:09 AM, Dario Raimondi wrote: > > Hopefully soon... > Afaik clients with 2.0 cannot see in the server browser the older server, > but they can connect to them by using the ip address, and SEEMS that > everything is working fine. > > Of course all the fixes related to the netcode would not work. > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:05 PM, wrote: > >> Ah yes, the etenral question for linux server files I fear. We've got >> Windows and Titan pack files now, any eta on Linux server patch 2.0? >> >> --- >> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org >> Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 >> >> >> > > -- Sir_Brizz Technical Manager sir_brizz at beyondunreal.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cbo at info-services.biz Thu Mar 5 09:55:46 2009 From: cbo at info-services.biz (Christophe BOULLANGER) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:55:46 -0400 Subject: [ut3] UT3 2.0 Linux server? In-Reply-To: <1bee0f3b0903050643u2f9e77aer95cf7f846b233a2d@mail.gmail.com> References: <52712.82.95.128.198.1236261942.squirrel@webmail.gothica.nl> <1bee0f3b0903050609k6409db98lbb2ec2029dec469c@mail.gmail.com> <49AFDFA2.5050309@utzone.de> <80B8E0EA896B3E489A5802234274BA9C5F2DAEDC5D@sandy.IS972DH.com> <1bee0f3b0903050643u2f9e77aer95cf7f846b233a2d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <80B8E0EA896B3E489A5802234274BA9C5F2DAEDC5E@sandy.IS972DH.com> I'm just desperate nothing move ________________________________ De : Dario Raimondi [mailto:dario.raimondi at gmail.com] Envoy? : jeudi 5 mars 2009 10:44 ? : ut3 at icculus.org Objet : Re: [ut3] UT3 2.0 Linux server? Thanks for the info. Your effort it's really important. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Christophe BOULLANGER > wrote: This game is born death -----Message d'origine----- De : Donzi.UTzone.de [mailto:donzi at utzone.de] Envoy? : jeudi 5 mars 2009 10:20 ? : ut3 at icculus.org Objet : Re: [ut3] UT3 2.0 Linux server? Windows 2.0 can see 1.3 Linux in Browser and connect to and play with them ------------ Christopher Lotz ( Donzi ) UTzone.de Admin http://www.UTzone.de http://Clan.UTzone.de Parts of Despe Networks http://www.Despe.de Dario Raimondi schrieb: > Hopefully soon... > Afaik clients with 2.0 cannot see in the server browser the older > server, but they can connect to them by using the ip address, and > SEEMS that everything is working fine. > > Of course all the fixes related to the netcode would not work. > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:05 PM, > >> wrote: > > Ah yes, the etenral question for linux server files I fear. We've got > Windows and Titan pack files now, any eta on Linux server patch 2.0? > > --- > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org > > > Mailing list archives: > http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 > > > --- To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 --- To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From katrina_lefeir at tiscali.it Thu Mar 5 13:52:41 2009 From: katrina_lefeir at tiscali.it (Katrina) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 19:52:41 +0100 Subject: [ut3] UT3 2.0 Linux server? In-Reply-To: <9e9730b80903050652s1890c305g87ee8a89e2096bc0@mail.gmail.com> References: <52712.82.95.128.198.1236261942.squirrel@webmail.gothica.nl> <1bee0f3b0903050609k6409db98lbb2ec2029dec469c@mail.gmail.com> <173A2A19-222E-46B6-86BE-F209AF0AE0CD@apoc.org> <9e9730b80903050652s1890c305g87ee8a89e2096bc0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090305195241.29d50045.katrina_lefeir@tiscali.it> On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 07:52:06 -0700 Sir Brizz wrote: > they should get a patch out for the Linux client ASAP imo. Indeed. ...Like, you know, a whole client would be a good idea. 16 months and counting. - Kat From sir.brizz at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 14:06:00 2009 From: sir.brizz at gmail.com (Sir Brizz) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:06:00 -0700 Subject: [ut3] UT3 2.0 Linux server? In-Reply-To: <20090305195241.29d50045.katrina_lefeir@tiscali.it> References: <52712.82.95.128.198.1236261942.squirrel@webmail.gothica.nl> <1bee0f3b0903050609k6409db98lbb2ec2029dec469c@mail.gmail.com> <173A2A19-222E-46B6-86BE-F209AF0AE0CD@apoc.org> <9e9730b80903050652s1890c305g87ee8a89e2096bc0@mail.gmail.com> <20090305195241.29d50045.katrina_lefeir@tiscali.it> Message-ID: <49B02298.2070702@gmail.com> Freudian slip I guess. HAHA! I meant the server, but client works too :) On 3/5/09 11:52 AM, Katrina wrote: > On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 07:52:06 -0700 > Sir Brizz wrote: > > >> they should get a patch out for the Linux client ASAP imo. >> > > Indeed. > > ...Like, you know, a whole client would be a good idea. 16 months and > counting. > > - Kat > > --- > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org > Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thor27 at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 15:01:32 2009 From: thor27 at gmail.com (Thomaz de Oliveira dos Reis) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:01:32 -0300 Subject: Anyone with cedega here? Message-ID: <13ca66cd0903051201q1e087238y162b0afa88201a5@mail.gmail.com> Seems in the latest version they improved the compatibilty with UT3, we can take a look here: http://www.cedega.com/gamesdb/games/view.html?game_id=4970 Anyone here with cedega AND ut3 to say if it's really playable? Thanks! From ceil420 at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 15:36:13 2009 From: ceil420 at gmail.com (ceil420 at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 20:36:13 +0000 Subject: [ut3] Anyone with cedega here? Message-ID: <1335740968-1236285216-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1117030115-@bxe1212.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> I have crossover, but refuse to use it to play ut3. Native or nothing. Using compatibility layers to play the game is sending the wrong message. ------Original Message------ From: Thomaz de Oliveira dos Reis To: ut3 at icculus.org ReplyTo: ut3 at icculus.org Subject: [ut3] Anyone with cedega here? Sent: Mar 5, 2009 14:01 Seems in the latest version they improved the compatibilty with UT3, we can take a look here: http://www.cedega.com/gamesdb/games/view.html?game_id=4970 Anyone here with cedega AND ut3 to say if it's really playable? Thanks! --- To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From christr at macross.com Thu Mar 5 12:01:25 2009 From: christr at macross.com (Chris Trainor) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:01:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: [ut3] UT3 2.0 Linux server? In-Reply-To: <92e59dd80903050609g7d011b47ya16ae5deeafd3049@mail.gmail.com> References: <52712.82.95.128.198.1236261942.squirrel@webmail.gothica.nl> <92e59dd80903050609g7d011b47ya16ae5deeafd3049@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Ya know... I can live without a linux client.... but not having a current, stable linux server is personally what I think is holding back a lot of gameplay. --Chris On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Luiz Gustavo Angelo wrote: > need it badly as it seems, 2.0 client doesn't connect to 1.2 or 1.3 server > everybody is going to update, but there will be no server to connect ? omfg! > > is this correct, can anybody confirm ? (from the closed beta, i must say yes > =[ :'( =/ ) > > thanks! > > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:05 AM, wrote: > >> Ah yes, the etenral question for linux server files I fear. We've got >> Windows and Titan pack files now, any eta on Linux server patch 2.0? >> >> --- >> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org >> Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 >> >> >> > > > -- > Luiz Gustavo Angelo > T: +55 11 75452244 > From info at ronny-schedel.de Fri Mar 6 03:34:18 2009 From: info at ronny-schedel.de (Ronny Schedel) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:34:18 +0100 Subject: UT3 Linux server files for free weekend Message-ID: Hello, I am new to this mailing list and also new in hosting UT3 servers. Steam offers a free weekend for Unreal Tournament 3 Black with Titan Pack. http://store.steampowered.com/app/13210/ I need the Linux server files to run a public server for this weekend. Is it enough to install the server files from this news: http://icculus.org/news/news.php?id=4104 Or do I need some patches or the "Titan Pack"? If so, where can I download? Best regards Ronny Schedel From sir.brizz at gmail.com Fri Mar 6 19:00:13 2009 From: sir.brizz at gmail.com (Sir Brizz) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:00:13 -0700 Subject: [Fwd: [ut3servers] Linux 2.0 BETA available] Message-ID: <49B1B90D.10400@gmail.com> Here's the new beta for the Linux server. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ut3servers] Linux 2.0 BETA available Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:09:08 -0500 From: Josh Adams Reply-To: UT3 Servers To: We have a beta version of Linux server ready for your testing. This is a closed beta, so as per norm, please don't distribute off this list :) Patch 2.0 (can install on top of previous Linux servers): http://www.epicgames.com/download/v4sdljhsadoif/UT3-linux-server-03052009.bin Server 1.0 (full install for original Linux server). 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URL: From loezix at gmail.com Fri Mar 6 20:05:10 2009 From: loezix at gmail.com (Luiz Gustavo Angelo) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:05:10 -0300 Subject: [ut3] [Fwd: [ut3servers] Linux 2.0 BETA available] In-Reply-To: <49B1B90D.10400@gmail.com> References: <49B1B90D.10400@gmail.com> Message-ID: <92e59dd80903061705r1e387afaq801c31a97faec28e@mail.gmail.com> weeeee On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Sir Brizz wrote: > Here's the new beta for the Linux server. > > -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ut3servers] Linux 2.0 BETA > available Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:09:08 -0500 From: Josh Adams > Reply-To: UT3 > Servers To: > > > We have a beta version of Linux server ready for your testing. This is a closed beta, so as per norm, please don't distribute off this list :) > > > Patch 2.0 (can install on top of previous Linux servers):http://www.epicgames.com/download/v4sdljhsadoif/UT3-linux-server-03052009.bin > > > Server 1.0 (full install for original Linux server). Required if you've never installed the Linux server before:http://www.epicgames.com/download/v4sdljhsadoif/UT3-linux-server-12172007.bin > > > Josh > > --------------------- > TO LEAVE THE LIST > --------------------- > Write to LISTSERV at LIST.EPICGAMES.COM and, in the text of your message > (not the subject line), write: SIGNOFF UT3SERVERS > > -- Luiz Gustavo Angelo T: +55 11 75452244 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From majic.one at gmail.com Fri Mar 6 20:31:58 2009 From: majic.one at gmail.com (majic.one at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:31:58 -0800 Subject: [ut3] [Fwd: [ut3servers] Linux 2.0 BETA available] In-Reply-To: <49B1B90D.10400@gmail.com> References: <49B1B90D.10400@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090306173158.f388bd47.majic.one@gmail.com> Any word on if we're allowed to talk about it to our friends? I know a few of mine would love to hear of signs of life... Distributing is stated to be a no-go, but can we talk about it? :3 On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:00:13 -0700 Sir Brizz wrote: > Here's the new beta for the Linux server. > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [ut3servers] Linux 2.0 BETA available > Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:09:08 -0500 > From: Josh Adams > Reply-To: UT3 Servers > To: > > > > We have a beta version of Linux server ready for your testing. This is a closed beta, so as per norm, please don't distribute off this list :) > > > Patch 2.0 (can install on top of previous Linux servers): > http://www.epicgames.com/download/v4sdljhsadoif/UT3-linux-server-03052009.bin > > > Server 1.0 (full install for original Linux server). Required if you've never installed the Linux server before: > http://www.epicgames.com/download/v4sdljhsadoif/UT3-linux-server-12172007.bin > > > Josh > > --------------------- > TO LEAVE THE LIST > --------------------- > Write to LISTSERV at LIST.EPICGAMES.COM and, in the text of your message > (not the subject line), write: SIGNOFF UT3SERVERS > > From slavikg at gmail.com Sat Mar 7 01:01:25 2009 From: slavikg at gmail.com (Slavik Goltser) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 01:01:25 -0500 Subject: [ut3] [Fwd: [ut3servers] Linux 2.0 BETA available] In-Reply-To: <49B1B90D.10400@gmail.com> References: <49B1B90D.10400@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3a6ee9a80903062201p64b188b2h9dd9b022bb0777bc@mail.gmail.com> Nice! Any word on the client though? On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Sir Brizz wrote: > Here's the new beta for the Linux server. > > -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ut3servers] Linux 2.0 BETA > available Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:09:08 -0500 From: Josh Adams > Reply-To: UT3 > Servers To: > > > We have a beta version of Linux server ready for your testing. This is a closed beta, so as per norm, please don't distribute off this list :) > > > Patch 2.0 (can install on top of previous Linux servers):http://www.epicgames.com/download/v4sdljhsadoif/UT3-linux-server-03052009.bin > > > Server 1.0 (full install for original Linux server). Required if you've never installed the Linux server before:http://www.epicgames.com/download/v4sdljhsadoif/UT3-linux-server-12172007.bin > > > Josh > > --------------------- > TO LEAVE THE LIST > --------------------- > Write to LISTSERV at LIST.EPICGAMES.COM and, in the text of your message > (not the subject line), write: SIGNOFF UT3SERVERS > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From b1tchkilla at gmx.de Sat Mar 7 04:00:20 2009 From: b1tchkilla at gmx.de (B1tchkilla) Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 10:00:20 +0100 Subject: [ut3] [Fwd: [ut3servers] Linux 2.0 BETA available] In-Reply-To: <20090306173158.f388bd47.majic.one@gmail.com> References: <49B1B90D.10400@gmail.com> <20090306173158.f388bd47.majic.one@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49B237A4.7050201@gmx.de> I do not see any good reason why we should not talk about a beta being available as long as the beta itself won't be distributed outside the list... - Ren? majic.one at gmail.com schrieb: > Any word on if we're allowed to talk about it to our friends? I know a few of mine would love to hear of signs of life... Distributing is stated to be a no-go, but can we talk about it? :3 > > On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:00:13 -0700 > Sir Brizz wrote: > > >> Here's the new beta for the Linux server. >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: [ut3servers] Linux 2.0 BETA available >> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:09:08 -0500 >> From: Josh Adams >> Reply-To: UT3 Servers >> To: >> >> >> >> We have a beta version of Linux server ready for your testing. This is a closed beta, so as per norm, please don't distribute off this list :) >> >> >> Patch 2.0 (can install on top of previous Linux servers): >> http://www.epicgames.com/download/v4sdljhsadoif/UT3-linux-server-03052009.bin >> >> >> Server 1.0 (full install for original Linux server). Required if you've never installed the Linux server before: >> http://www.epicgames.com/download/v4sdljhsadoif/UT3-linux-server-12172007.bin >> >> >> Josh >> >> --------------------- >> TO LEAVE THE LIST >> --------------------- >> Write to LISTSERV at LIST.EPICGAMES.COM and, in the text of your message >> (not the subject line), write: SIGNOFF UT3SERVERS >> >> >> > > --- > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org > Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 > > > From sir.brizz at gmail.com Sat Mar 7 04:39:49 2009 From: sir.brizz at gmail.com (Sir Brizz) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 02:39:49 -0700 Subject: [ut3] [Fwd: [ut3servers] Linux 2.0 BETA available] In-Reply-To: <49B237A4.7050201@gmx.de> References: <49B1B90D.10400@gmail.com> <20090306173158.f388bd47.majic.one@gmail.com> <49B237A4.7050201@gmx.de> Message-ID: <9e9730b80903070139p776239d8v5cd840ca8710453f@mail.gmail.com> Talk about it all you want, IMO :) On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 2:00 AM, B1tchkilla wrote: > I do not see any good reason why we should not talk about a beta being > available as long as the beta itself won't be distributed outside the > list... > > - Ren? > > majic.one at gmail.com schrieb: > > Any word on if we're allowed to talk about it to our friends? I know a >> few of mine would love to hear of signs of life... Distributing is stated >> to be a no-go, but can we talk about it? :3 >> >> On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:00:13 -0700 >> Sir Brizz wrote: >> >> >> >>> Here's the new beta for the Linux server. >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: [ut3servers] Linux 2.0 BETA available >>> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:09:08 -0500 >>> From: Josh Adams >>> Reply-To: UT3 Servers >>> To: >>> >>> >>> >>> We have a beta version of Linux server ready for your testing. This is a >>> closed beta, so as per norm, please don't distribute off this list :) >>> >>> >>> Patch 2.0 (can install on top of previous Linux servers): >>> >>> http://www.epicgames.com/download/v4sdljhsadoif/UT3-linux-server-03052009.bin >>> >>> >>> Server 1.0 (full install for original Linux server). Required if you've >>> never installed the Linux server before: >>> >>> http://www.epicgames.com/download/v4sdljhsadoif/UT3-linux-server-12172007.bin >>> >>> >>> Josh >>> >>> --------------------- >>> TO LEAVE THE LIST >>> --------------------- >>> Write to LISTSERV at LIST.EPICGAMES.COM and, in the text of your >>> message >>> (not the subject line), write: SIGNOFF UT3SERVERS >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> --- >> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org >> Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 >> >> >> >> > > > > --- > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org > Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 > > > -- Sir_Brizz Technical Manager sir_brizz at beyondunreal.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From oldkawman at netscape.net Sun Mar 8 14:31:08 2009 From: oldkawman at netscape.net (oldkawman) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:31:08 -0400 Subject: [ut3] UT3 2.0 Linux server? In-Reply-To: References: <52712.82.95.128.198.1236261942.squirrel@webmail.gothica.nl> <92e59dd80903050609g7d011b47ya16ae5deeafd3049@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49B40EEC.30107@netscape.net> Yes, I can confirm there is a linux server 2.0 closed beta patch . I now have a copy of the closed beta and plan to install it on my 1.2 server later today. There is also a 2.0 closed beta server for new installs. Chris Trainor wrote: > Ya know... I can live without a linux client.... but not having a > current, stable linux server is personally what I think is holding > back a lot of gameplay. > > --Chris > > > On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Luiz Gustavo Angelo wrote: > >> need it badly as it seems, 2.0 client doesn't connect to 1.2 or 1.3 >> server >> everybody is going to update, but there will be no server to connect >> ? omfg! >> >> is this correct, can anybody confirm ? (from the closed beta, i must >> say yes >> =[ :'( =/ ) >> >> thanks! >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:05 AM, wrote: >> >>> Ah yes, the etenral question for linux server files I fear. We've got >>> Windows and Titan pack files now, any eta on Linux server patch 2.0? >>> >>> --- >>> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org >>> Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Luiz Gustavo Angelo >> T: +55 11 75452244 >> > > --- > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org > Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 > > From icculus at icculus.org Thu Mar 12 01:30:27 2009 From: icculus at icculus.org (icculus at icculus.org) Date: 12 Mar 2009 01:30:27 -0400 Subject: Changing mailing list software... Message-ID: <20090312053027.32169.qmail@icculus.org> We're in the process of upgrading icculus.org from its current, extremely broken Gentoo install to Ubuntu. The first step of this process is replacing as much software as possible that doesn't have a maintained package, so I don't have to spend my life hunting down and compiling updates from source tarballs. One of those things is ezmlm, the mailing list software we've been using here. It's sort of crappy software anyhow, so I don't think anybody is going to miss it. We'll be using GNU Mailman as a replacement. So after this email, I'm going to convert this mailing list. Do not panic if you send mail today and it bounces, as I might just be in the middle of converting the list still. You will get an email notifying you of the new list details. This will confirm that your subscription transferred, and give you the archive URL, passwords, etc. If you don't get a notice and you don't see a list posting from me saying I'm done, you probably didn't get transferred...you can resubscribe with no problem, though. Email will still go to ut3 at icculus.org as usual. Problems can go to my email address. ok, here we go... --ryan. From icculus at icculus.org Thu Mar 12 03:26:08 2009 From: icculus at icculus.org (Ryan C. Gordon) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 03:26:08 -0400 Subject: [ut3] Still on its way... In-Reply-To: <49B8A174.7020500@icculus.org> References: <49B8A174.7020500@icculus.org> Message-ID: <49B8B910.2040502@icculus.org> > Thanks for your eternal patience, (And I think the new mailing list software is working. Carry on, everyone.) --ryan. From shadow at s-i-g-m-a.net Thu Mar 12 03:28:20 2009 From: shadow at s-i-g-m-a.net (UndeadDevil's Shadow) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:28:20 -0700 Subject: [ut3] Still on its way... In-Reply-To: <49B8B910.2040502@icculus.org> References: <49B8A174.7020500@icculus.org> <49B8B910.2040502@icculus.org> Message-ID: Is it meant to create the ATT00001.c attachment on most mails then? -----Original Message----- From: ut3-bounces at icculus.org [mailto:ut3-bounces at icculus.org] On Behalf Of Ryan C. Gordon Sent: 12 March 2009 07:26 To: ut3 mailing list Subject: Re: [ut3] Still on its way... > Thanks for your eternal patience, (And I think the new mailing list software is working. Carry on, everyone.) --ryan. _______________________________________________ ut3 mailing list ut3 at icculus.org http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 From icculus at icculus.org Thu Mar 12 03:33:05 2009 From: icculus at icculus.org (Ryan C. Gordon) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 03:33:05 -0400 Subject: [ut3] Still on its way... In-Reply-To: References: <49B8A174.7020500@icculus.org> <49B8B910.2040502@icculus.org> Message-ID: <49B8BAB1.9060706@icculus.org> > Is it meant to create the ATT00001.c attachment on most mails then? It isn't making them here. Perhaps it's on your side? --ryan. From marix at marix.org Thu Mar 12 03:36:13 2009 From: marix at marix.org (Matthias Bach) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:36:13 +0100 Subject: [ut3] Still on its way... In-Reply-To: References: <49B8A174.7020500@icculus.org> <49B8B910.2040502@icculus.org> Message-ID: <200903120836.18798.marix@marix.org> Hi! Am Donnerstag 12 M?rz 2009 schrieb UndeadDevil's Shadow: > Is it meant to create the ATT00001.c attachment on most mails then? I don't see any such attachments. Regards, Matthias -- Matthias Bach www.marix.org ?Der einzige Weg, die Grenzen des M?glichen zu finden, ist ein klein wenig ?ber diese hinaus in das Unm?gliche vorzusto?en.? - Arthur C. Clarke -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From shadow at s-i-g-m-a.net Thu Mar 12 03:51:05 2009 From: shadow at s-i-g-m-a.net (UndeadDevil's Shadow) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:51:05 -0700 Subject: [ut3] Still on its way... In-Reply-To: <49B8BAB1.9060706@icculus.org> References: <49B8A174.7020500@icculus.org> <49B8B910.2040502@icculus.org> <49B8BAB1.9060706@icculus.org> Message-ID: The attachment contains the following so maybe Signature issue? "______________________________________________ ut3 mailing list ut3 at icculus.org http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3" I've got the attachment on the mails from Bad Nagel, Matthias Bach, fain and Alex. Doesn't seem to be doing it to my mails though. Good to hear there's still light at the end of the tunnel for UT3-nix, especially after the recent patch 2.0 managed to fix a good deal of issues in UT3. (For me I can now play in Windows compared to all previous versions that crashed after a couple of minutes) -----Original Message----- From: ut3-bounces at icculus.org [mailto:ut3-bounces at icculus.org] On Behalf Of Ryan C. Gordon Sent: 12 March 2009 07:33 To: ut3 mailing list Subject: Re: [ut3] Still on its way... > Is it meant to create the ATT00001.c attachment on most mails then? It isn't making them here. Perhaps it's on your side? --ryan. _______________________________________________ ut3 mailing list ut3 at icculus.org http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 From edman007 at edman007.com Thu Mar 12 03:54:35 2009 From: edman007 at edman007.com (Ed Martin) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 03:54:35 -0400 Subject: [ut3] Still on its way... In-Reply-To: <200903120836.18798.marix@marix.org> References: <49B8A174.7020500@icculus.org> <49B8B910.2040502@icculus.org> <200903120836.18798.marix@marix.org> Message-ID: <49B8BFBB.5070205@edman007.com> I see them, thunderbird shows attachments for a lot of the multipart stuff (since its part of the email its not showing, in this case i can confirm that i am receiving a text and html version from some people, the html shows, the text comes through as an attachment), in this case it appears that the new list manager is letting them go through where the old one probably stripped them out or something (though i only have the last week of the list as reference, but they are all text from before the upgrade) Matthias Bach wrote: > Hi! > > Am Donnerstag 12 M?rz 2009 schrieb UndeadDevil's Shadow: >> Is it meant to create the ATT00001.c attachment on most mails then? > > I don't see any such attachments. > > Regards, > Matthias > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 From thomas.kuehling at netzdeponie.de Thu Mar 12 03:57:43 2009 From: thomas.kuehling at netzdeponie.de (Thomas Kuehling) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:57:43 +0100 Subject: [ut3] Still on its way... In-Reply-To: References: <49B8A174.7020500@icculus.org> <49B8B910.2040502@icculus.org> <49B8BAB1.9060706@icculus.org> Message-ID: <1236844663.7481.3.camel@dreamland.home> If the otherone is writing the mail in HTML or signed it with a pgp key, the signature will be attached to the mail. That's a normal behavoiur. Regards Thomas Am Donnerstag, den 12.03.2009, 00:51 -0700 schrieb UndeadDevil's Shadow: > The attachment contains the following so maybe Signature issue? > "______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3" > > I've got the attachment on the mails from Bad Nagel, Matthias Bach, fain and Alex. Doesn't seem to be doing it to my mails though. > > Good to hear there's still light at the end of the tunnel for UT3-nix, especially after the recent patch 2.0 managed to fix a good deal of issues in UT3. (For me I can now play in Windows compared to all previous versions that crashed after a couple of minutes) > > -----Original Message----- > From: ut3-bounces at icculus.org [mailto:ut3-bounces at icculus.org] On Behalf Of Ryan C. Gordon > Sent: 12 March 2009 07:33 > To: ut3 mailing list > Subject: Re: [ut3] Still on its way... > > > > Is it meant to create the ATT00001.c attachment on most mails then? > > It isn't making them here. Perhaps it's on your side? > > --ryan. > > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 From shadow at s-i-g-m-a.net Thu Mar 12 04:03:46 2009 From: shadow at s-i-g-m-a.net (UndeadDevil's Shadow) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 01:03:46 -0700 Subject: [ut3] Still on its way... Message-ID: That explaines it then, so the old mailing list filtered them out. -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Kuehling Sent: 12 March 2009 07:58 To: UT3 mailing list Subject: Re: [ut3] Still on its way... If the otherone is writing the mail in HTML or signed it with a pgp key, the signature will be attached to the mail. That's a normal behavoiur. Regards Thomas Am Donnerstag, den 12.03.2009, 00:51 -0700 schrieb UndeadDevil's Shadow: > The attachment contains the following so maybe Signature issue? > "______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3" > > I've got the attachment on the mails from Bad Nagel, Matthias Bach, fain and Alex. Doesn't seem to be doing it to my mails though. > > Good to hear there's still light at the end of the tunnel for UT3-nix, especially after the recent patch 2.0 managed to fix a good deal of issues in UT3. (For me I can now play in Windows compared to all previous versions that crashed after a couple of minutes) > > -----Original Message----- > From: ut3-bounces at icculus.org [mailto:ut3-bounces at icculus.org] On Behalf Of Ryan C. Gordon > Sent: 12 March 2009 07:33 > To: ut3 mailing list > Subject: Re: [ut3] Still on its way... > > > > Is it meant to create the ATT00001.c attachment on most mails then? > > It isn't making them here. Perhaps it's on your side? > > --ryan. > > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 _______________________________________________ ut3 mailing list ut3 at icculus.org http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 From joaoedu at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 07:36:25 2009 From: joaoedu at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Eduardo?=) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:36:25 -0300 Subject: [ut3] Still on its way... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10b558d40903120436o650fbfa3vdd69d5731266ce0@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Ryan. UT3 - linux coming soon, 21 DEC 2012. ------- Jo?o Eduardo On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:03 AM, UndeadDevil's Shadow wrote: > That explaines it then, so the old mailing list filtered them out. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Thomas Kuehling > Sent: 12 March 2009 07:58 > To: UT3 mailing list > Subject: Re: [ut3] Still on its way... > > > If the otherone is writing the mail in HTML or signed it with a pgp key, > the signature will be attached to the mail. That's a normal behavoiur. > > Regards > Thomas > > Am Donnerstag, den 12.03.2009, 00:51 -0700 schrieb UndeadDevil's Shadow: > > The attachment contains the following so maybe Signature issue? > > "______________________________________________ > > ut3 mailing list > > ut3 at icculus.org > > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3" > > > > I've got the attachment on the mails from Bad Nagel, Matthias Bach, fain > and Alex. Doesn't seem to be doing it to my mails though. > > > > Good to hear there's still light at the end of the tunnel for UT3-nix, > especially after the recent patch 2.0 managed to fix a good deal of issues > in UT3. (For me I can now play in Windows compared to all previous versions > that crashed after a couple of minutes) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ut3-bounces at icculus.org [mailto:ut3-bounces at icculus.org] On Behalf > Of Ryan C. Gordon > > Sent: 12 March 2009 07:33 > > To: ut3 mailing list > > Subject: Re: [ut3] Still on its way... > > > > > > > Is it meant to create the ATT00001.c attachment on most mails then? > > > > It isn't making them here. Perhaps it's on your side? > > > > --ryan. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ut3 mailing list > > ut3 at icculus.org > > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 > > _______________________________________________ > > ut3 mailing list > > ut3 at icculus.org > > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 > > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From death at apoc.org Thu Mar 12 07:42:32 2009 From: death at apoc.org ([Apoc]Death) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:42:32 -0400 Subject: [ut3] Still on its way... In-Reply-To: <49B8A174.7020500@icculus.org> References: <49B8A174.7020500@icculus.org> Message-ID: <49B8F528.6010903@apoc.org> Hi, Ryan. Over the past few months, my group has finally switched over to UT3 in earnest, with the linux- and mac-using guys swallowing their pride and running XP dual boots on their machines (me included) just for this purpose. Hence, in Apoc-land, there's still plenty of interest in and love for your work on this, so this is very, very good to hear. Keep plugging away, and we'll enjoy the result immensely when it's ready. I think I might hurt myself with absolute glee if I can stop booting Winders again... :) Cheers, -Rob Ryan C. Gordon wrote: > > ...since I imagine that the notice of mailing list software change > will spark a (well deserved) round of complaints--after all, I have > been largely absent from this list despite the cries for updates--I > just wanted to drop a note and say that the UT3 linux and mac work is > still ongoing. Largely we're just optimizing and fixing annoying bugs > at the moment. > > No release date at the moment. Yes, I know we're already 16 months > late. I'm sorry, we'll get you the game as soon as we can. > > Thanks for your eternal patience, > --ryan. > > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 From niels.egberts at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 07:45:02 2009 From: niels.egberts at gmail.com (Niels Egberts) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:45:02 +0100 Subject: [ut3] Still on its way... In-Reply-To: <49B8A174.7020500@icculus.org> References: <49B8A174.7020500@icculus.org> Message-ID: Wow, did not see that one coming. On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 6:45 AM, Ryan C. Gordon wrote: > > ...since I imagine that the notice of mailing list software change will > spark a (well deserved) round of complaints--after all, I have been largely > absent from this list despite the cries for updates--I just wanted to drop a > note and say that the UT3 linux and mac work is still ongoing. Largely we're > just optimizing and fixing annoying bugs at the moment. > > No release date at the moment. Yes, I know we're already 16 months late. > I'm sorry, we'll get you the game as soon as we can. > > Thanks for your eternal patience, > --ryan. > > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From urmane at neuralaccess.com Thu Mar 12 19:56:55 2009 From: urmane at neuralaccess.com (Jim Niemira) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:56:55 -0500 Subject: [ut3] Still on its way... In-Reply-To: <49B8A174.7020500@icculus.org> References: <49B8A174.7020500@icculus.org> Message-ID: <200903121956.55436.urmane@neuralaccess.com> Thanks for the news, it's appreciated. Oh, and thanks for updating the mailing software - for some reason, I think it was resending the same complaint emails over and over and over ... -- Jim Niemira "Anti-wrinkle cream there may be, but urmane at urmane.org anti-fat-bastard cream there is not." Dave, The Full Monty From DLWillson at TheGeek.NU Fri Mar 13 00:16:30 2009 From: DLWillson at TheGeek.NU (David L. Willson) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:16:30 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [ut3] Still on its way... In-Reply-To: <200903121956.55436.urmane@neuralaccess.com> Message-ID: <18967981.64281236917790238.JavaMail.root@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Aye, thanks for the update! --David ----- "Jim Niemira" wrote: > Thanks for the news, it's appreciated. > > Oh, and thanks for updating the mailing software - for some reason, I > think it > was resending the same complaint emails over and over and over ... > > > -- > Jim Niemira "Anti-wrinkle cream there may > be, but > urmane at urmane.org anti-fat-bastard cream there > is not." > Dave, The Full Monty > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 From greyfade at greyfade.org Fri Mar 13 01:31:34 2009 From: greyfade at greyfade.org (Charles Banas) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:31:34 -0700 Subject: [ut3] Still on its way... In-Reply-To: <49B8A174.7020500@icculus.org> References: <49B8A174.7020500@icculus.org> Message-ID: <49B9EFB6.60603@greyfade.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ryan C. Gordon wrote: > > ...since I imagine that the notice of mailing list software change will > spark a (well deserved) round of complaints--after all, I have been > largely absent from this list despite the cries for updates--I just > wanted to drop a note and say that the UT3 linux and mac work is still > ongoing. Largely we're just optimizing and fixing annoying bugs at the > moment. > > No release date at the moment. Yes, I know we're already 16 months late. > I'm sorry, we'll get you the game as soon as we can. > Thank you for *saying* something. The silence has been deafening. > Thanks for your eternal patience, > --ryan. > > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkm577YACgkQi1yS1BuzIvj1hgCeLn8sxGAh7tQwiWq8bPv9df1U +TUAn0qYZkN0JMcPJDypmtyGdorwWMlt =qFfC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From katrina_lefeir at tiscali.it Fri Mar 13 16:17:31 2009 From: katrina_lefeir at tiscali.it (Katrina) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:17:31 +0100 Subject: [ut3] Still on its way... In-Reply-To: <49B8A174.7020500@icculus.org> References: <49B8A174.7020500@icculus.org> Message-ID: <20090313211731.932d8b44.katrina_lefeir@tiscali.it> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 01:45:24 -0400 "Ryan C. Gordon" wrote: > No release date at the moment. Yes, I know we're already 16 months late. YAAAAAAAARRRGGGHHH!!! He's alive, and he spoke!!! Now, let's just wait for the four horsemen... :) > I'm sorry, we'll get you the game as soon as we can. I know the release date. But I can't say it straight - NDA and all that stuff - I can just give an hint: it will compete with the Duke. ;) > Thanks for your eternal patience, Half of what you need to bear with us, I guess. :D Thanks. - Kate From autocrosser1 at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 22:06:29 2009 From: autocrosser1 at gmail.com (Dean Loros) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:06:29 -0700 Subject: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post Message-ID: <49BB1125.5080302@gmail.com> I'm a log-time Ubuntu member & have been following the "problems" with UT3 from before the "release date". I am one of the people that pre-ordered UT3 almost 8 months before release based on the "rumor" that UT3 was going to have a Linux client...That is not my beef--I realize that I took my chances & have up to now lost the cash---My trust in Epic is the other thing that has been lost....I'm glad to see that Ryan is still in there with us, but I read this post today on Ubuntuforums & am starting to feel like Epic is not giving the straight answers.....Post note complete follows: Dear autocrosser, You are subscribed to the thread "Unreal Tournament 3 linux screenshots!!!!" by eragon100, there have been 1 post(s) to this thread, the last poster was phobos_anomaly. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=923315 These following posts were made to the thread: ************ Re: Unreal Tournament 3 linux screenshots!!!! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6889165#post6889165 Posted by: phobos_anomaly On: March 13th, 2009 11:29 AM Ok, heres whats going on with the linux port for ut3. I work for nvidia and have been in touch with epic over the last few months about ut3 and the possibility of shipping copies with certain graphics cards. I've made mention that, if a deal like that should happen, that we would also want a linux port to ship with the game. I have been told repeatedly that linux client has been scrapped and that, at this time, there is no interest whatsoever in resuming that project. So once again, linux users gets screwed. For those of you that feel the need to express your disdain for this, I suggest snail mailing epic at the following address: Epic Games ATTN CEO 620 Crossroads Blvd Cary, NC 27518 Good Luck All the best, Ubuntu Forums From harryrag at true-gamers.nl Fri Mar 13 22:51:09 2009 From: harryrag at true-gamers.nl (=TG=McRag) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 03:51:09 +0100 Subject: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post In-Reply-To: <49BB1125.5080302@gmail.com> References: <49BB1125.5080302@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001c9a44f$baaf44b0$300dce10$@nl> hmmmmmmmm client, why do i see that word coming round more then server, think it's really time to move on and abbandon this list, for server admins, gsp's etc this list became completely useless with that ut3 client naggin stuff. BB -----Original Message----- From: ut3-bounces at icculus.org [mailto:ut3-bounces at icculus.org] On Behalf Of Dean Loros Sent: zaterdag 14 maart 2009 3:06 To: ut3 mailing list Subject: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post I'm a log-time Ubuntu member & have been following the "problems" with UT3 from before the "release date". I am one of the people that pre-ordered UT3 almost 8 months before release based on the "rumor" that UT3 was going to have a Linux client...That is not my beef--I realize that I took my chances & have up to now lost the cash---My trust in Epic is the other thing that has been lost....I'm glad to see that Ryan is still in there with us, but I read this post today on Ubuntuforums & am starting to feel like Epic is not giving the straight answers.....Post note complete follows: Dear autocrosser, You are subscribed to the thread "Unreal Tournament 3 linux screenshots!!!!" by eragon100, there have been 1 post(s) to this thread, the last poster was phobos_anomaly. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=923315 These following posts were made to the thread: ************ Re: Unreal Tournament 3 linux screenshots!!!! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6889165#post6889165 Posted by: phobos_anomaly On: March 13th, 2009 11:29 AM Ok, heres whats going on with the linux port for ut3. I work for nvidia and have been in touch with epic over the last few months about ut3 and the possibility of shipping copies with certain graphics cards. I've made mention that, if a deal like that should happen, that we would also want a linux port to ship with the game. I have been told repeatedly that linux client has been scrapped and that, at this time, there is no interest whatsoever in resuming that project. So once again, linux users gets screwed. For those of you that feel the need to express your disdain for this, I suggest snail mailing epic at the following address: Epic Games ATTN CEO 620 Crossroads Blvd Cary, NC 27518 Good Luck All the best, Ubuntu Forums _______________________________________________ ut3 mailing list ut3 at icculus.org http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 From darth.brandon at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 23:10:25 2009 From: darth.brandon at gmail.com (Brandon Myers) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 23:10:25 -0400 Subject: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post In-Reply-To: <49BB1125.5080302@gmail.com> References: <49BB1125.5080302@gmail.com> Message-ID: <708cc320903132010v330fbcceo46fce84890f0544@mail.gmail.com> Ryan posted to this mailing list a couple nights ago to say that he's still working on the Mac and Linux clients, and apologized for the long wait. Maybe it's just me, but I would much rather trust the man who is actually working on the Linux client than someone on the Ubuntu forums claiming to work for NVIDIA. On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Dean Loros wrote: > I'm a log-time Ubuntu member & have been following the "problems" with UT3 > from before the "release date". I am one of the people that pre-ordered UT3 > almost 8 months before release based on the "rumor" that UT3 was going to > have a Linux client...That is not my beef--I realize that I took my chances > & have up to now lost the cash---My trust in Epic is the other thing that > has been lost....I'm glad to see that Ryan is still in there with us, but I > read this post today on Ubuntuforums & am starting to feel like Epic is not > giving the straight answers.....Post note complete follows: > > > Dear autocrosser, > > You are subscribed to the thread "Unreal Tournament 3 linux > screenshots!!!!" by eragon100, there have been 1 post(s) to this thread, the > last poster was phobos_anomaly. > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=923315 > > These following posts were made to the thread: > ************ > Re: Unreal Tournament 3 linux screenshots!!!! > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6889165#post6889165 > Posted by: phobos_anomaly > On: March 13th, 2009 11:29 AM > > Ok, heres whats going on with the linux port for ut3. I work for nvidia and > have been in touch with epic over the last few months about ut3 and the > possibility of shipping copies with certain graphics cards. I've made > mention that, if a deal like that should happen, that we would also want a > linux port to ship with the game. I have been told repeatedly that linux > client has been scrapped and that, at this time, there is no interest > whatsoever in resuming that project. So once again, linux users gets > screwed. For those of you that feel the need to express your disdain for > this, I suggest snail mailing epic at the following address: > > Epic Games > ATTN CEO > 620 Crossroads Blvd > Cary, NC 27518 > > Good Luck > > > All the best, > Ubuntu Forums > > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sir.brizz at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 23:23:42 2009 From: sir.brizz at gmail.com (Sir Brizz) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:23:42 -0600 Subject: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post In-Reply-To: <708cc320903132010v330fbcceo46fce84890f0544@mail.gmail.com> References: <49BB1125.5080302@gmail.com> <708cc320903132010v330fbcceo46fce84890f0544@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9e9730b80903132023u790f84fcu2fef06736a68ee02@mail.gmail.com> I fully agree with Brandon. On a side note I work for Microsoft and I got an OFFICIAL MEMO stating that Bill Gates is sending Epic monthly alimony checks to prevent the Mac and Linux ports! SEND EPIC AN ANGRY EMAIL NAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes: Brizz 2009/3/13 Brandon Myers > Ryan posted to this mailing list a couple nights ago to say that he's still > working on the Mac and Linux clients, and apologized for the long wait. > Maybe it's just me, but I would much rather trust the man who is actually > working on the Linux client than someone on the Ubuntu forums claiming to > work for NVIDIA. > > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Dean Loros wrote: > >> I'm a log-time Ubuntu member & have been following the "problems" with UT3 >> from before the "release date". I am one of the people that pre-ordered UT3 >> almost 8 months before release based on the "rumor" that UT3 was going to >> have a Linux client...That is not my beef--I realize that I took my chances >> & have up to now lost the cash---My trust in Epic is the other thing that >> has been lost....I'm glad to see that Ryan is still in there with us, but I >> read this post today on Ubuntuforums & am starting to feel like Epic is not >> giving the straight answers.....Post note complete follows: >> >> >> Dear autocrosser, >> >> You are subscribed to the thread "Unreal Tournament 3 linux >> screenshots!!!!" by eragon100, there have been 1 post(s) to this thread, the >> last poster was phobos_anomaly. >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=923315 >> >> These following posts were made to the thread: >> ************ >> Re: Unreal Tournament 3 linux screenshots!!!! >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6889165#post6889165 >> Posted by: phobos_anomaly >> On: March 13th, 2009 11:29 AM >> >> Ok, heres whats going on with the linux port for ut3. I work for nvidia >> and have been in touch with epic over the last few months about ut3 and the >> possibility of shipping copies with certain graphics cards. I've made >> mention that, if a deal like that should happen, that we would also want a >> linux port to ship with the game. I have been told repeatedly that linux >> client has been scrapped and that, at this time, there is no interest >> whatsoever in resuming that project. So once again, linux users gets >> screwed. For those of you that feel the need to express your disdain for >> this, I suggest snail mailing epic at the following address: >> >> Epic Games >> ATTN CEO >> 620 Crossroads Blvd >> Cary, NC 27518 >> >> Good Luck >> >> >> All the best, >> Ubuntu Forums >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ut3 mailing list >> ut3 at icculus.org >> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 >> > > > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 > > -- Sir_Brizz Technical Manager sir_brizz at beyondunreal.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 3/13/09, Dean Loros wrote: > I'm a log-time Ubuntu member & have been following the "problems" with > UT3 from before the "release date". I am one of the people that > pre-ordered UT3 almost 8 months before release based on the "rumor" that > UT3 was going to have a Linux client...That is not my beef--I realize > that I took my chances & have up to now lost the cash---My trust in Epic > is the other thing that has been lost....I'm glad to see that Ryan is > still in there with us, but I read this post today on Ubuntuforums & am > starting to feel like Epic is not giving the straight answers.....Post > note complete follows: > > > Dear autocrosser, > > You are subscribed to the thread "Unreal Tournament 3 linux > screenshots!!!!" by eragon100, there have been 1 post(s) to this thread, > the last poster was phobos_anomaly. > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=923315 > > These following posts were made to the thread: > ************ > Re: Unreal Tournament 3 linux screenshots!!!! > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6889165#post6889165 > Posted by: phobos_anomaly > On: March 13th, 2009 11:29 AM > > Ok, heres whats going on with the linux port for ut3. I work for nvidia > and have been in touch with epic over the last few months about ut3 and > the possibility of shipping copies with certain graphics cards. I've > made mention that, if a deal like that should happen, that we would also > want a linux port to ship with the game. I have been told repeatedly > that linux client has been scrapped and that, at this time, there is no > interest whatsoever in resuming that project. So once again, linux users > gets screwed. For those of you that feel the need to express your > disdain for this, I suggest snail mailing epic at the following address: > > Epic Games > ATTN CEO > 620 Crossroads Blvd > Cary, NC 27518 > > Good Luck > > > All the best, > Ubuntu Forums > > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 > From sir.brizz at gmail.com Sat Mar 14 01:35:38 2009 From: sir.brizz at gmail.com (Sir Brizz) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 23:35:38 -0600 Subject: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post In-Reply-To: <49BB370D.8040402@gmail.com> References: <49BB1125.5080302@gmail.com> <708cc320903132010v330fbcceo46fce84890f0544@mail.gmail.com> <9e9730b80903132023u790f84fcu2fef06736a68ee02@mail.gmail.com> <49BB370D.8040402@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9e9730b80903132235m79f969a5p9a2c2441a8b567e2@mail.gmail.com> You were watching this list before it was even created? WOW! :) 2009/3/13 Dean Loros > I'm not trying to spread FUD---I DID read Ryan's note the other day & I > have the greatest respect for him---I just question Epic's motives--It is > quite possible to tell Ryan one thing & do the opposite. > > I dare say that I have watched this list longer than you have been on it :) > .......I have quietly read all the foaming ferment that has passed for > discourse on this list......I would just really like more information. > > I have been playing Unreal from the very first & really would like a crack > at UT3 without Windows. > > Cheers!!! > Autocrosser > > > On 03/13/2009 08:23 PM, Sir Brizz wrote: > > I fully agree with Brandon. On a side note I work for Microsoft and I got > an OFFICIAL MEMO stating that Bill Gates is sending Epic monthly alimony > checks to prevent the Mac and Linux ports! SEND EPIC AN ANGRY EMAIL > NAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes: > > Brizz > > 2009/3/13 Brandon Myers > >> Ryan posted to this mailing list a couple nights ago to say that he's >> still working on the Mac and Linux clients, and apologized for the long >> wait. Maybe it's just me, but I would much rather trust the man who is >> actually working on the Linux client than someone on the Ubuntu forums >> claiming to work for NVIDIA. >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Dean Loros wrote: >> >>> I'm a long-time Ubuntu member & have been following the "problems" with >>> UT3 from before the "release date". I am one of the people that pre-ordered >>> UT3 almost 8 months before release based on the "rumor" that UT3 was going >>> to have a Linux client...That is not my beef--I realize that I took my >>> chances & have up to now lost the cash---My trust in Epic is the other thing >>> that has been lost....I'm glad to see that Ryan is still in there with us, >>> but I read this post today on Ubuntuforums & am starting to feel like Epic >>> is not giving the straight answers.....Post note complete follows: >>> >>> >>> Dear autocrosser, >>> >>> You are subscribed to the thread "Unreal Tournament 3 linux >>> screenshots!!!!" by eragon100, there have been 1 post(s) to this thread, the >>> last poster was phobos_anomaly. >>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=923315 >>> >>> These following posts were made to the thread: >>> ************ >>> Re: Unreal Tournament 3 linux screenshots!!!! >>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6889165#post6889165 >>> Posted by: phobos_anomaly >>> On: March 13th, 2009 11:29 AM >>> >>> Ok, heres whats going on with the linux port for ut3. I work for nvidia >>> and have been in touch with epic over the last few months about ut3 and the >>> possibility of shipping copies with certain graphics cards. I've made >>> mention that, if a deal like that should happen, that we would also want a >>> linux port to ship with the game. I have been told repeatedly that linux >>> client has been scrapped and that, at this time, there is no interest >>> whatsoever in resuming that project. So once again, linux users gets >>> screwed. For those of you that feel the need to express your disdain for >>> this, I suggest snail mailing epic at the following address: >>> >>> Epic Games >>> ATTN CEO >>> 620 Crossroads Blvd >>> Cary, NC 27518 >>> >>> Good Luck >>> >>> >>> All the best, >>> Ubuntu Forums >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 > > -- Sir_Brizz Technical Manager sir_brizz at beyondunreal.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kingster at unrealplayground.com Sat Mar 14 02:05:21 2009 From: kingster at unrealplayground.com (Kingster) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 01:05:21 -0500 Subject: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post In-Reply-To: <000001c9a44f$baaf44b0$300dce10$@nl> References: <49BB1125.5080302@gmail.com> <000001c9a44f$baaf44b0$300dce10$@nl> Message-ID: <000201c9a46a$dbb37670$931a6350$@com> You'll note, that this is not specifically a server list. This is a UT3 list, specifically for the "non-standard" ports that Mr. Gordon has been contracted to deliver. Not specifically server, nor client, but both. There currently isn't much to say about UT3 for Linux/Mac... But the little bit of server stuff going down is happening over at the UT3Servers list. Kingster -----Original Message----- From: ut3-bounces at icculus.org [mailto:ut3-bounces at icculus.org] On Behalf Of =TG=McRag Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:51 PM To: 'UT3 mailing list' Subject: Re: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post hmmmmmmmm client, why do i see that word coming round more then server, think it's really time to move on and abbandon this list, for server admins, gsp's etc this list became completely useless with that ut3 client naggin stuff. BB -----Original Message----- From: ut3-bounces at icculus.org [mailto:ut3-bounces at icculus.org] On Behalf Of Dean Loros Sent: zaterdag 14 maart 2009 3:06 To: ut3 mailing list Subject: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post I'm a log-time Ubuntu member & have been following the "problems" with UT3 from before the "release date". I am one of the people that pre-ordered UT3 almost 8 months before release based on the "rumor" that UT3 was going to have a Linux client...That is not my beef--I realize that I took my chances & have up to now lost the cash---My trust in Epic is the other thing that has been lost....I'm glad to see that Ryan is still in there with us, but I read this post today on Ubuntuforums & am starting to feel like Epic is not giving the straight answers.....Post note complete follows: Dear autocrosser, You are subscribed to the thread "Unreal Tournament 3 linux screenshots!!!!" by eragon100, there have been 1 post(s) to this thread, the last poster was phobos_anomaly. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=923315 These following posts were made to the thread: ************ Re: Unreal Tournament 3 linux screenshots!!!! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6889165#post6889165 Posted by: phobos_anomaly On: March 13th, 2009 11:29 AM Ok, heres whats going on with the linux port for ut3. I work for nvidia and have been in touch with epic over the last few months about ut3 and the possibility of shipping copies with certain graphics cards. I've made mention that, if a deal like that should happen, that we would also want a linux port to ship with the game. I have been told repeatedly that linux client has been scrapped and that, at this time, there is no interest whatsoever in resuming that project. So once again, linux users gets screwed. For those of you that feel the need to express your disdain for this, I suggest snail mailing epic at the following address: Epic Games ATTN CEO 620 Crossroads Blvd Cary, NC 27518 Good Luck All the best, Ubuntu Forums _______________________________________________ ut3 mailing list ut3 at icculus.org http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 _______________________________________________ ut3 mailing list ut3 at icculus.org http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 From aryss.skahara at gmail.com Sat Mar 14 16:35:21 2009 From: aryss.skahara at gmail.com (Michael "_Lynx" Sokolkov) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:35:21 +0300 Subject: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post In-Reply-To: <8a612e0a0903132233l2f220526x8a9767c223615bd9@mail.gmail.com> References: <49BB1125.5080302@gmail.com> <8a612e0a0903132233l2f220526x8a9767c223615bd9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <927724641.20090314233521@gmail.com> Good point. NVIDIA doesn't ship cards. Packiging is up to "vendors". Also no sane person would come up on a public forum brandishing with a business correspondence which is very likely to be the subject of an NDA. > hmm, why would NVIDIA want to bundle an old game like ut3 with > graphics cards they dont sell directly? makes no sense to me. > On 3/13/09, Dean Loros wrote: >> I'm a log-time Ubuntu member & have been following the "problems" with >> UT3 from before the "release date". I am one of the people that >> pre-ordered UT3 almost 8 months before release based on the "rumor" that >> UT3 was going to have a Linux client...That is not my beef--I realize >> that I took my chances & have up to now lost the cash---My trust in Epic >> is the other thing that has been lost....I'm glad to see that Ryan is >> still in there with us, but I read this post today on Ubuntuforums & am >> starting to feel like Epic is not giving the straight answers.....Post >> note complete follows: >> >> >> Dear autocrosser, >> >> You are subscribed to the thread "Unreal Tournament 3 linux >> screenshots!!!!" by eragon100, there have been 1 post(s) to this thread, >> the last poster was phobos_anomaly. >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=923315 >> >> These following posts were made to the thread: >> ************ >> Re: Unreal Tournament 3 linux screenshots!!!! >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6889165#post6889165 >> Posted by: phobos_anomaly >> On: March 13th, 2009 11:29 AM >> >> Ok, heres whats going on with the linux port for ut3. I work for nvidia >> and have been in touch with epic over the last few months about ut3 and >> the possibility of shipping copies with certain graphics cards. I've >> made mention that, if a deal like that should happen, that we would also >> want a linux port to ship with the game. I have been told repeatedly >> that linux client has been scrapped and that, at this time, there is no >> interest whatsoever in resuming that project. So once again, linux users >> gets screwed. For those of you that feel the need to express your >> disdain for this, I suggest snail mailing epic at the following address: >> >> Epic Games >> ATTN CEO >> 620 Crossroads Blvd >> Cary, NC 27518 >> >> Good Luck >> >> >> All the best, >> Ubuntu Forums >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ut3 mailing list >> ut3 at icculus.org >> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 >> > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 -- Best regards, Michael mailto:aryss.skahara at gmail.com From wellsfrago at gmail.com Sat Mar 14 20:39:02 2009 From: wellsfrago at gmail.com (Cube) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:39:02 -0500 Subject: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post In-Reply-To: <927724641.20090314233521@gmail.com> References: <49BB1125.5080302@gmail.com> <8a612e0a0903132233l2f220526x8a9767c223615bd9@mail.gmail.com> <927724641.20090314233521@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3cde3e690903141739v21bea5b9p9507b81c3c01b82f@mail.gmail.com> thanks for the heads up that there is a server list...good bye 5h17-h34d5 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Barton) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:59:37 -0700 Subject: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post In-Reply-To: <3cde3e690903141739v21bea5b9p9507b81c3c01b82f@mail.gmail.com> References: <49BB1125.5080302@gmail.com> <8a612e0a0903132233l2f220526x8a9767c223615bd9@mail.gmail.com> <927724641.20090314233521@gmail.com> <3cde3e690903141739v21bea5b9p9507b81c3c01b82f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49BC52F9.6070600@gmail.com> Cube wrote: > thanks for the heads up that there is a server list...good bye 5h17-h34d5 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 > \/\/|-|/-\+5 \/\/1+|-| +|-|3 |\|/-\/\/\3 (/-\|_|_1|\|6 /-\|\||) |>|20|=/-\|\|1+`/??!!11!!!!shift+one!! lol From christr at macross.com Sat Mar 14 23:53:36 2009 From: christr at macross.com (Chris Trainor) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:53:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post In-Reply-To: <000201c9a46a$dbb37670$931a6350$@com> References: <49BB1125.5080302@gmail.com> <000001c9a44f$baaf44b0$300dce10$@nl> <000201c9a46a$dbb37670$931a6350$@com> Message-ID: Where's the info for the UT3server list? That's all I ever really cared about... I thought this was the only 'official' list for UT3 on Linux. --Chris On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Kingster wrote: > You'll note, that this is not specifically a server list. This is a UT3 > list, specifically for the "non-standard" ports that Mr. Gordon has been > contracted to deliver. Not specifically server, nor client, but both. > There currently isn't much to say about UT3 for Linux/Mac... But the little > bit of server stuff going down is happening over at the UT3Servers list. > > Kingster > > -----Original Message----- > From: ut3-bounces at icculus.org [mailto:ut3-bounces at icculus.org] On Behalf Of > =TG=McRag > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:51 PM > To: 'UT3 mailing list' > Subject: Re: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post > > hmmmmmmmm client, why do i see that word coming round more then server, > think it's really time to move on and abbandon this list, for server admins, > gsp's etc this list became completely useless with that ut3 client naggin > stuff. > > BB > > -----Original Message----- > From: ut3-bounces at icculus.org [mailto:ut3-bounces at icculus.org] On Behalf Of > Dean Loros > Sent: zaterdag 14 maart 2009 3:06 > To: ut3 mailing list > Subject: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post > > I'm a log-time Ubuntu member & have been following the "problems" with > UT3 from before the "release date". I am one of the people that > pre-ordered UT3 almost 8 months before release based on the "rumor" that > UT3 was going to have a Linux client...That is not my beef--I realize > that I took my chances & have up to now lost the cash---My trust in Epic > is the other thing that has been lost....I'm glad to see that Ryan is > still in there with us, but I read this post today on Ubuntuforums & am > starting to feel like Epic is not giving the straight answers.....Post > note complete follows: > > > Dear autocrosser, > > You are subscribed to the thread "Unreal Tournament 3 linux > screenshots!!!!" by eragon100, there have been 1 post(s) to this thread, > the last poster was phobos_anomaly. > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=923315 > > These following posts were made to the thread: > ************ > Re: Unreal Tournament 3 linux screenshots!!!! > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6889165#post6889165 > Posted by: phobos_anomaly > On: March 13th, 2009 11:29 AM > > Ok, heres whats going on with the linux port for ut3. I work for nvidia > and have been in touch with epic over the last few months about ut3 and > the possibility of shipping copies with certain graphics cards. I've > made mention that, if a deal like that should happen, that we would also > want a linux port to ship with the game. I have been told repeatedly > that linux client has been scrapped and that, at this time, there is no > interest whatsoever in resuming that project. So once again, linux users > gets screwed. For those of you that feel the need to express your > disdain for this, I suggest snail mailing epic at the following address: > > Epic Games > ATTN CEO > 620 Crossroads Blvd > Cary, NC 27518 > > Good Luck > > > All the best, > Ubuntu Forums > > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 > > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 > > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 > From b1tchkilla at gmx.de Sun Mar 15 05:28:10 2009 From: b1tchkilla at gmx.de (B1tchkilla) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 10:28:10 +0100 Subject: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post In-Reply-To: References: <49BB1125.5080302@gmail.com> <000001c9a44f$baaf44b0$300dce10$@nl> <000201c9a46a$dbb37670$931a6350$@com> Message-ID: <49BCCA2A.6000608@gmx.de> Just wanted to send you a direct reply but it says i'm blacklisted.... - Ren? Chris Trainor schrieb: > Where's the info for the UT3server list? That's all I ever really > cared about... I thought this was the only 'official' list for UT3 on > Linux. > > --Chris > From wuchzael at hotmail.com Sun Mar 15 09:13:06 2009 From: wuchzael at hotmail.com (Alex) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:13:06 +0100 Subject: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post In-Reply-To: <3cde3e690903141739v21bea5b9p9507b81c3c01b82f@mail.gmail.com> References: <49BB1125.5080302@gmail.com><8a612e0a0903132233l2f220526x8a9767c223615bd9@mail.gmail.com><927724641.20090314233521@gmail.com> <3cde3e690903141739v21bea5b9p9507b81c3c01b82f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi! How can I unsubscribe from the mailing list? The spam mails are freakin me out! greetz From: Cube Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 1:39 AM To: Michael _Lynx Sokolkov ; UT3 mailing list Subject: Re: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post thanks for the heads up that there is a server list...good bye 5h17-h34d5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ ut3 mailing list ut3 at icculus.org http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The spam mails are freakin me > out! > > greetz > > > *From:* Cube > *Sent:* Sunday, March 15, 2009 1:39 AM > *To:* Michael _Lynx Sokolkov ; UT3 mailing list > *Subject:* Re: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post > > thanks for the heads up that there is a server list...good bye 5h17-h34d5 > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 > > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kingster at unrealplayground.com Sun Mar 15 09:48:25 2009 From: kingster at unrealplayground.com (Kingster) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 08:48:25 -0500 Subject: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post In-Reply-To: <3cde3e690903141739v21bea5b9p9507b81c3c01b82f@mail.gmail.com> References: <49BB1125.5080302@gmail.com> <8a612e0a0903132233l2f220526x8a9767c223615bd9@mail.gmail.com> <927724641.20090314233521@gmail.com> <3cde3e690903141739v21bea5b9p9507b81c3c01b82f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <007001c9a574$b6b22f50$24168df0$@com> You're welcome. Though, with an attitude like that, I doubt you'll even get on, since it's invite only. From: ut3-bounces at icculus.org [mailto:ut3-bounces at icculus.org] On Behalf Of Cube Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 7:39 PM To: Michael _Lynx Sokolkov; UT3 mailing list Subject: Re: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post thanks for the heads up that there is a server list...good bye 5h17-h34d5 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Though, with an attitude like that, I doubt you?ll even > get on, since it?s invite only. > > > > *From:* ut3-bounces at icculus.org [mailto:ut3-bounces at icculus.org] *On > Behalf Of *Cube > *Sent:* Saturday, March 14, 2009 7:39 PM > *To:* Michael _Lynx Sokolkov; UT3 mailing list > *Subject:* Re: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post > > > > thanks for the heads up that there is a server list...good bye 5h17-h34d5 > > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 > > -- Sir_Brizz Technical Manager sir_brizz at beyondunreal.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lostman at liquidcode.org Mon Mar 16 15:49:33 2009 From: lostman at liquidcode.org (Josh) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:49:33 -0500 Subject: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post In-Reply-To: <49BC52F9.6070600@gmail.com> References: <49BB1125.5080302@gmail.com> <8a612e0a0903132233l2f220526x8a9767c223615bd9@mail.gmail.com> <927724641.20090314233521@gmail.com> <3cde3e690903141739v21bea5b9p9507b81c3c01b82f@mail.gmail.com> <49BC52F9.6070600@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49BEAD4D.2040905@liquidcode.org> The fact that I could read that makes me a little sad for myself. Ryan F. Barton wrote: > > \/\/|-|/-\+5 \/\/1+|-| +|-|3 |\|/-\/\/\3 (/-\|_|_1|\|6 /-\|\||) > |>|20|=/-\|\|1+`/??!!11!!!!shift+one!! lol > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 > From majic.one at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 16:21:28 2009 From: majic.one at gmail.com (majic.one at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:21:28 +0000 Subject: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post In-Reply-To: <49BCCA2A.6000608@gmx.de> References: <49BB1125.5080302@gmail.com> <000001c9a44f$baaf44b0$300dce10$@nl> <000201c9a46a$dbb37670$931a6350$@com> <49BCCA2A.6000608@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20090317202128.b9d4ef67.majic.one@gmail.com> Come on people... I spend a lot of time on that forum and I sincerely doubt he's telling the truth. I have seen too many people bullshit their way through solutions and pretend they know what everyone else doesn't. That post just makes my troll senses tingle. :p Ryan has told us there will be a client. If there won't be, I expect to hear it from him. I hope the rest of you will follow suit. :\ Remember, anyone can say they work for Nvidia. And whoever that is, if they really are an Nvidia employee, is going to be in a heap of trouble concerning non-disclosure agreements. Regards On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 10:28:10 +0100 B1tchkilla wrote: > Just wanted to send you a direct reply but it says i'm blacklisted.... > > - Ren? > > Chris Trainor schrieb: > > Where's the info for the UT3server list? That's all I ever really > > cared about... I thought this was the only 'official' list for UT3 on > > Linux. > > > > --Chris > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 From majic.one at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 17:02:35 2009 From: majic.one at gmail.com (majic.one at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:02:35 +0000 Subject: [ut3] Still on its way... In-Reply-To: <20090313211731.932d8b44.katrina_lefeir@tiscali.it> References: <49B8A174.7020500@icculus.org> <20090313211731.932d8b44.katrina_lefeir@tiscali.it> Message-ID: <20090317210235.0447fd61.majic.one@gmail.com> Awww, that's no clue. :((( Duke Nukem Forever doesn't have a set release date. How rude. :<<< On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:17:31 +0100 Katrina wrote: > On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 01:45:24 -0400 > "Ryan C. Gordon" wrote: > > > No release date at the moment. Yes, I know we're already 16 months late. > > YAAAAAAAARRRGGGHHH!!! He's alive, and he spoke!!! Now, let's just wait for > the four horsemen... :) > > > I'm sorry, we'll get you the game as soon as we can. > > I know the release date. But I can't say it straight - NDA and all that > stuff - I can just give an hint: it will compete with the Duke. ;) > > > Thanks for your eternal patience, > > Half of what you need to bear with us, I guess. :D > > Thanks. > > - Kate > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 From k.podbielniak at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 17:06:54 2009 From: k.podbielniak at gmail.com (Kevin Podbielniak) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:06:54 -0400 Subject: [ut3] Still on its way... In-Reply-To: <20090317210235.0447fd61.majic.one@gmail.com> References: <49B8A174.7020500@icculus.org> <20090313211731.932d8b44.katrina_lefeir@tiscali.it> <20090317210235.0447fd61.majic.one@gmail.com> Message-ID: <743177460903171406h1c61cf03pa80adfbb81b38767@mail.gmail.com> That could be taken a couple different ways, either it will be out when duke is out (TBD release date), or it will be in development as long as Duke, ie. 10+ years. :) On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 5:02 PM, wrote: > Awww, that's no clue. :((( Duke Nukem Forever doesn't have a set release > date. How rude. :<<< > > On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:17:31 +0100 > Katrina wrote: > > > On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 01:45:24 -0400 > > "Ryan C. Gordon" wrote: > > > > > No release date at the moment. Yes, I know we're already 16 months > late. > > > > YAAAAAAAARRRGGGHHH!!! He's alive, and he spoke!!! Now, let's just wait > for > > the four horsemen... :) > > > > > I'm sorry, we'll get you the game as soon as we can. > > > > I know the release date. But I can't say it straight - NDA and all that > > stuff - I can just give an hint: it will compete with the Duke. ;) > > > > > Thanks for your eternal patience, > > > > Half of what you need to bear with us, I guess. :D > > > > Thanks. > > > > - Kate > > _______________________________________________ > > ut3 mailing list > > ut3 at icculus.org > > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From majic.one at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 17:14:12 2009 From: majic.one at gmail.com (majic.one at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:14:12 +0000 Subject: [ut3] Still on its way... In-Reply-To: <743177460903171406h1c61cf03pa80adfbb81b38767@mail.gmail.com> References: <49B8A174.7020500@icculus.org> <20090313211731.932d8b44.katrina_lefeir@tiscali.it> <20090317210235.0447fd61.majic.one@gmail.com> <743177460903171406h1c61cf03pa80adfbb81b38767@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090317211412.a3cc5810.majic.one@gmail.com> I think I'm going to take it as: "It will be released this year." Seeing as Duke was announced to be released this year... just no set date. :( On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:06:54 -0400 Kevin Podbielniak wrote: > That could be taken a couple different ways, either it will be out when duke > is out (TBD release date), or it will be in development as long as Duke, ie. > 10+ years. :) > > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 5:02 PM, wrote: > > > Awww, that's no clue. :((( Duke Nukem Forever doesn't have a set release > > date. How rude. :<<< > > > > On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:17:31 +0100 > > Katrina wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 01:45:24 -0400 > > > "Ryan C. Gordon" wrote: > > > > > > > No release date at the moment. Yes, I know we're already 16 months > > late. > > > > > > YAAAAAAAARRRGGGHHH!!! He's alive, and he spoke!!! Now, let's just wait > > for > > > the four horsemen... :) > > > > > > > I'm sorry, we'll get you the game as soon as we can. > > > > > > I know the release date. But I can't say it straight - NDA and all that > > > stuff - I can just give an hint: it will compete with the Duke. ;) > > > > > > > Thanks for your eternal patience, > > > > > > Half of what you need to bear with us, I guess. :D > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > - Kate > > > _______________________________________________ > > > ut3 mailing list > > > ut3 at icculus.org > > > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 > > _______________________________________________ > > ut3 mailing list > > ut3 at icculus.org > > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 > > > From massl at vermasslt.de Sun Mar 22 15:58:22 2009 From: massl at vermasslt.de (Marcel) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:58:22 +0100 Subject: [ut3] ut 3 - titan pack linux Message-ID: <49C6985E.6000407@vermasslt.de> Hi, sorry for disturbing, but at the moment I really don't get it... Some people are begging me for installing "Tital pack" to their ut3 server. Is this UT 2.0? 1. Can I use the Beta Patch 2.0 file from the thread "[ut3] [Fwd: [ut3servers] Linux 2.0 BETA available]"? 2. Is this a seperate game, or a free addon for everyone? Cheers Marcel From mize at mypenonline.com Sun Mar 22 16:04:05 2009 From: mize at mypenonline.com (Mize) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:04:05 -0500 Subject: [ut3] ut 3 - titan pack linux In-Reply-To: <49C6985E.6000407@vermasslt.de> References: <49C6985E.6000407@vermasslt.de> Message-ID: Its free, 2.0 is the only server version that steam users can connect to at the moment. And the 2.0 beta patch for linux servers does have quite a few issues, can find more info at forums.epicgames.com. If your users are steam users, its really their only option. If your running windows servers it shouldnt be an issue to upgrade, just grab the patch and the titan pack (2 different updates, both free). I dont think currently there is any way to install teh titan pack on a linux server, you can however upload the new maps without issue. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcel" To: Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 2:58 PM Subject: [ut3] ut 3 - titan pack linux > Hi, > > sorry for disturbing, but at the moment I really don't get it... > > > Some people are begging me for installing "Tital pack" to their ut3 > server. Is this UT 2.0? > > > > 1. Can I use the Beta Patch 2.0 file from the thread "[ut3] [Fwd: > [ut3servers] Linux 2.0 BETA available]"? > > > 2. Is this a seperate game, or a free addon for everyone? > > > > > Cheers > > Marcel > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 From wellsfrago at gmail.com Sun Mar 22 16:24:59 2009 From: wellsfrago at gmail.com (Cube) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:24:59 -0500 Subject: [ut3] ut 3 - titan pack linux In-Reply-To: References: <49C6985E.6000407@vermasslt.de> Message-ID: <3cde3e690903221324r12c04039mbf22a9437501bb46@mail.gmail.com> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Tital+pack check that -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From joseph.dunnigan at gmail.com Sun Mar 22 19:00:29 2009 From: joseph.dunnigan at gmail.com (Joey Dunnigan) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:00:29 -0500 Subject: [ut3] Anyone with cedega here? In-Reply-To: <1335740968-1236285216-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1117030115-@bxe1212.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <1335740968-1236285216-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1117030115-@bxe1212.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <610d9c0c0903221600w5faac02ei96f62e85426036c0@mail.gmail.com> Late response, I know. I agree that this could send the wrong message; however, UT3 was free last weekend on Steam, and being a Cedega beta tester, I figured it was a good chance to give it a try. Let me tell you, it plays perfect. I've had the chance now to play a number of deathmatch and CTF quick match games, played two rounds online, and have gone a couple levels through the campaign. It's great. And man, is it nice to finally play UT3. I'm enjoying it thoroughly! Ok, so I was supposed to wait to buy the game until the Linux client came out. Well, I'll probably by a boxed version when that happens, but the game is 11.99USD on Steam until March 24. I waited a week, but couldn't resist any longer and purchased it. I have sinned! :) Please feel free to throw rocks at me. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:36 PM, wrote: > I have crossover, but refuse to use it to play ut3. Native or nothing. Using compatibility layers to play the game is sending the wrong message. > > ------Original Message------ > From: Thomaz de Oliveira dos Reis > To: ut3 at icculus.org > ReplyTo: ut3 at icculus.org > Subject: [ut3] Anyone with cedega here? > Sent: Mar 5, 2009 14:01 > > Seems in the latest version they improved the compatibilty with UT3, > we can take a look here: > http://www.cedega.com/gamesdb/games/view.html?game_id=4970 > > Anyone here with cedega AND ut3 to say if it's really playable? > > > Thanks! > > --- > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org > Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > --- > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org > Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 > > > From keithzg at gmail.com Sun Mar 22 19:12:41 2009 From: keithzg at gmail.com (Keith Zubot-Gephart) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:12:41 -0600 Subject: [ut3] Anyone with cedega here? In-Reply-To: <610d9c0c0903221600w5faac02ei96f62e85426036c0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1335740968-1236285216-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1117030115-@bxe1212.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <610d9c0c0903221600w5faac02ei96f62e85426036c0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200903221712.41562.keithzg@gmail.com> /me throws rocks but anyways, see you online....whenever it's actually release for Linux, I'm one of the faithful (either that or I just hate the thought of rebooting into Windows...I'm not even sure myself). P.S. Have you listened to that talk Ryan gave awhile back at a Linux users conference? He says some interesting things about Cedega (not outright good or bad, I mean, actually interesting). On Sunday 22 March 2009 17:00:29 Joey Dunnigan wrote: > Late response, I know. > > I agree that this could send the wrong message; however, UT3 was free > last weekend on Steam, and being a Cedega beta tester, I figured it > was a good chance to give it a try. Let me tell you, it plays perfect. > I've had the chance now to play a number of deathmatch and CTF quick > match games, played two rounds online, and have gone a couple levels > through the campaign. It's great. And man, is it nice to finally play > UT3. I'm enjoying it thoroughly! > > Ok, so I was supposed to wait to buy the game until the Linux client > came out. Well, I'll probably by a boxed version when that happens, > but the game is 11.99USD on Steam until March 24. I waited a week, but > couldn't resist any longer and purchased it. I have sinned! :) Please > feel free to throw rocks at me. > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:36 PM, wrote: > > I have crossover, but refuse to use it to play ut3. Native or nothing. > > Using compatibility layers to play the game is sending the wrong message. > > > > ------Original Message------ > > From: Thomaz de Oliveira dos Reis > > To: ut3 at icculus.org > > ReplyTo: ut3 at icculus.org > > Subject: [ut3] Anyone with cedega here? > > Sent: Mar 5, 2009 14:01 > > > > Seems in the latest version they improved the compatibilty with UT3, > > we can take a look here: > > http://www.cedega.com/gamesdb/games/view.html?game_id=4970 > > > > Anyone here with cedega AND ut3 to say if it's really playable? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > --- > > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org > > Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > --- > > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to ut3-unsubscribe at icculus.org > > Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64 > > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 From DLWillson at TheGeek.NU Sun Mar 22 19:15:15 2009 From: DLWillson at TheGeek.NU (David L. Willson) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:15:15 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [ut3] Anyone with cedega here? In-Reply-To: <200903221712.41562.keithzg@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6379262.74561237763715553.JavaMail.root@zimbra.thegeek.nu> ...Have you listened to that talk Ryan gave awhile back at a Linux > users > conference? He says some interesting things... link, please? David L. Willson Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast MCT, MCSE, Linux+ tel://720.333.LANS Freeing people from the tyranny (or whatevery) of Microsofty-ness, one at a time. From keithzg at gmail.com Mon Mar 23 01:52:59 2009 From: keithzg at gmail.com (Keith Zubot-Gephart) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:52:59 -0600 Subject: [ut3] Anyone with cedega here? In-Reply-To: <6379262.74561237763715553.JavaMail.root@zimbra.thegeek.nu> References: <6379262.74561237763715553.JavaMail.root@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <200903222352.59943.keithzg@gmail.com> This is why I love Akregator, I didn't even leave the program, I just switched to my RSS feed viewer, scrolled through the old icculus news posts, and hit http://icculus.org/news/news.php?id=4407 If you're lazy a direct URL is http://media.libsyn.com/media/dsyates/040808uclug0010.ogg Justifying this being on the UT3 Linux mailing list, IIRC Ryan does talk about UT3 and his past of being contracted by Epic Games, although I don't remember how detailed it is. Pretty interesting stuff though. (You'll probably want to skip through the first 30min of the recording which is someone else talking about shell scripting.) On Sunday 22 March 2009 17:15:15 David L. Willson wrote: > ...Have you listened to that talk Ryan gave awhile back at a Linux > > > users > > conference? He says some interesting things... > > link, please? > > David L. Willson > Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast > MCT, MCSE, Linux+ > tel://720.333.LANS > Freeing people from the tyranny (or whatevery) of Microsofty-ness, one at a > time. _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 From Steven.Miano at mybrighthouse.com Mon Mar 23 09:20:10 2009 From: Steven.Miano at mybrighthouse.com (Miano, Steven M.) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:20:10 -0400 Subject: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post In-Reply-To: <20090317202128.b9d4ef67.majic.one@gmail.com> References: <49BB1125.5080302@gmail.com> <000001c9a44f$baaf44b0$300dce10$@nl> <000201c9a46a$dbb37670$931a6350$@com> <49BCCA2A.6000608@gmx.de> <20090317202128.b9d4ef67.majic.one@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0B226F11CC00FB4992C346AEEC4BEDBB3A4EE47620@TBEMAIL.corp.local> I'm interested in the ut3 server mailing list, I too thought that this was the only official ML. -----Original Message----- From: ut3-bounces at icculus.org [mailto:ut3-bounces at icculus.org] On Behalf Of majic.one at gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:21 PM To: ut3 at icculus.org Subject: Re: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post Come on people... I spend a lot of time on that forum and I sincerely doubt he's telling the truth. I have seen too many people bullshit their way through solutions and pretend they know what everyone else doesn't. That post just makes my troll senses tingle. :p Ryan has told us there will be a client. If there won't be, I expect to hear it from him. I hope the rest of you will follow suit. :\ Remember, anyone can say they work for Nvidia. And whoever that is, if they really are an Nvidia employee, is going to be in a heap of trouble concerning non-disclosure agreements. Regards On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 10:28:10 +0100 B1tchkilla wrote: > Just wanted to send you a direct reply but it says i'm blacklisted.... > > - Ren? > > Chris Trainor schrieb: > > Where's the info for the UT3server list? That's all I ever really > > cared about... I thought this was the only 'official' list for UT3 on > > Linux. > > > > --Chris > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 _______________________________________________ ut3 mailing list ut3 at icculus.org http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, purge it and do not disseminate or copy it. From jcollins at asgardsrealm.net Mon Mar 23 13:42:52 2009 From: jcollins at asgardsrealm.net (Jamin W. Collins) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:42:52 -0400 Subject: [ut3] Anyone with cedega here? In-Reply-To: <200903222352.59943.keithzg@gmail.com> References: <6379262.74561237763715553.JavaMail.root@zimbra.thegeek.nu> <200903222352.59943.keithzg@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49C7CA1C.802@asgardsrealm.net> Keith Zubot-Gephart wrote: > This is why I love Akregator, I didn't even leave the program, I just switched > to my RSS feed viewer, scrolled through the old icculus news posts, and hit > http://icculus.org/news/news.php?id=4407 > > If you're lazy a direct URL is > http://media.libsyn.com/media/dsyates/040808uclug0010.ogg > > Justifying this being on the UT3 Linux mailing list, IIRC Ryan does talk about > UT3 and his past of being contracted by Epic Games, although I don't remember > how detailed it is. Pretty interesting stuff though. > > (You'll probably want to skip through the first 30min of the recording which > is someone else talking about shell scripting.) Went through the recording. Here's something of list of time indexes for highlights: 0:34:50 - Ryan's talk begins, largely with history 0:50:42 - suggests not to release before it's largely usable 0:52:30 - gets into Linux gaming 1:16:54 - indicates more Linux than Mac UT2K4 players 1:25:50 - Direct Sound 3D removed from Vista 1:34:46 - Bathroom directions (humor) 1:37:40 - speculation on reason for Linux Nvidia drivers 1:41:42 - Second Life source released under GPL 2:02:52 - Picasa/Wine 2:05:44 - Google Earth 2:10:18 - Transgaming/Cedega 2:13:06 - preferred editor and other useful tools 2:37:40 - preferred Linux distro (Ubuntu) -- Jamin W. Collins From b1tchkilla at gmx.de Mon Mar 23 15:21:31 2009 From: b1tchkilla at gmx.de (B1tchkilla) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:21:31 +0100 Subject: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post In-Reply-To: <0B226F11CC00FB4992C346AEEC4BEDBB3A4EE47620@TBEMAIL.corp.local> References: <49BB1125.5080302@gmail.com> <000001c9a44f$baaf44b0$300dce10$@nl> <000201c9a46a$dbb37670$931a6350$@com> <49BCCA2A.6000608@gmx.de> <20090317202128.b9d4ef67.majic.one@gmail.com> <0B226F11CC00FB4992C346AEEC4BEDBB3A4EE47620@TBEMAIL.corp.local> Message-ID: <49C7E13B.40108@gmx.de> Sent you a private mail. - Ren? Miano, Steven M. schrieb: > I'm interested in the ut3 server mailing list, I too thought that this was the only official ML. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ut3-bounces at icculus.org [mailto:ut3-bounces at icculus.org] On Behalf Of majic.one at gmail.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:21 PM > To: ut3 at icculus.org > Subject: Re: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post > > Come on people... I spend a lot of time on that forum and I sincerely doubt he's telling the truth. I have seen too many people bullshit their way through solutions and pretend they know what everyone else doesn't. That post just makes my troll senses tingle. :p Ryan has told us there will be a client. If there won't be, I expect to hear it from him. I hope the rest of you will follow suit. :\ Remember, anyone can say they work for Nvidia. And whoever that is, if they really are an Nvidia employee, is going to be in a heap of trouble concerning non-disclosure agreements. > > Regards > > On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 10:28:10 +0100 > B1tchkilla wrote: > > >> Just wanted to send you a direct reply but it says i'm blacklisted.... >> >> - Ren? >> >> Chris Trainor schrieb: >> >>> Where's the info for the UT3server list? That's all I ever really >>> cared about... I thought this was the only 'official' list for UT3 on >>> Linux. >>> >>> --Chris >>> >>> From loezix at gmail.com Mon Mar 23 15:23:42 2009 From: loezix at gmail.com (Luiz Gustavo Angelo) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:23:42 -0300 Subject: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post In-Reply-To: <49C7E13B.40108@gmx.de> References: <49BB1125.5080302@gmail.com> <000001c9a44f$baaf44b0$300dce10$@nl> <000201c9a46a$dbb37670$931a6350$@com> <49BCCA2A.6000608@gmx.de> <20090317202128.b9d4ef67.majic.one@gmail.com> <0B226F11CC00FB4992C346AEEC4BEDBB3A4EE47620@TBEMAIL.corp.local> <49C7E13B.40108@gmx.de> Message-ID: <92e59dd80903231223k68e4a03ke41fc6c04e9e27e6@mail.gmail.com> i am interested too :) On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 4:21 PM, B1tchkilla wrote: > Sent you a private mail. > > - Ren? > > Miano, Steven M. schrieb: > > I'm interested in the ut3 server mailing list, I too thought that this was >> the only official ML. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ut3-bounces at icculus.org [mailto:ut3-bounces at icculus.org] On Behalf >> Of majic.one at gmail.com >> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:21 PM >> To: ut3 at icculus.org >> Subject: Re: [ut3] Disturbing info from a Ubuntu forum post >> >> Come on people... I spend a lot of time on that forum and I sincerely >> doubt he's telling the truth. I have seen too many people bullshit their >> way through solutions and pretend they know what everyone else doesn't. >> That post just makes my troll senses tingle. :p Ryan has told us there >> will be a client. If there won't be, I expect to hear it from him. I hope >> the rest of you will follow suit. :\ Remember, anyone can say they work for >> Nvidia. And whoever that is, if they really are an Nvidia employee, is >> going to be in a heap of trouble concerning non-disclosure agreements. >> >> Regards >> >> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 10:28:10 +0100 >> B1tchkilla wrote: >> >> >> >>> Just wanted to send you a direct reply but it says i'm blacklisted.... >>> >>> - Ren? >>> >>> Chris Trainor schrieb: >>> >>> >>>> Where's the info for the UT3server list? That's all I ever really >>>> cared about... I thought this was the only 'official' list for UT3 on >>>> Linux. >>>> >>>> --Chris >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> > > _______________________________________________ > ut3 mailing list > ut3 at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/ut3 > -- Luiz Gustavo Angelo T: +55 11 75452244 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: