[ut3] STFU

Max Zettlmeissl max at zettlmeissl.de
Tue Jul 7 16:04:00 EDT 2009


So you talk about Americas Army and profit, eh?

And if UT2004 was ported almost instantly, how would they measure how
many sales are due to Linux? Especially since it was shipped with the
Installer on the CD... sure, they can log your OS when you connect to
their online service, but people don't necessarily do that.

I doubt that it's related to profit.
I'm sure they can easily make profit on Linux, but maybe it's just not
enough profit in the eyes of these immoral leeches.

On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 20:21 +0400, Валерий wrote:
> Linux porting seems to be non-profitable. UT2004 was originally ported
> to Linux in instant, but UT3 is not. America's Army was ported to
> Linux, but Linux port support was ceased.
> 
> 2009/7/7 Sir Brizz <sir.brizz at gmail.com>
>         This isn't really true. PC development slagged between
>         2002-2007 but there are more PC games now than ever before,
>         IMO. Platforms like Steam and Impulse have really driven that,
>         I think (proving that there IS a PC market). You may think
>         they are "consolified" (whatever that should mean), but I
>         appreciate the quantity (and general quality) of PC games now.
>         Obviously there is a lot of crap out there, but that's true of
>         any platform.
>         
>         If you wanted to argue that there are very few Linux games
>         anymore, I would agree with you there. It's disappointing to
>         see so few companies supporting as many platforms as they can.
>         
>         
>         
>         On 7/6/09 8:40 PM, Josh Medley wrote: 
>         > I've long since got over the fact it isn't being released.
>         > While I absolutely hate to see it; the industry as a whole
>         > is moving away from PC gaming. Doing it for a small subset
>         > of a market you are moving out of doesn't seem very
>         > productive to me. I can see a few genres stay on the PC
>         > platform for quite some time, sims type stuff, MMO,
>         > solitaire  I guess. Everything else makes more sense to
>         > develop for the console market. There is a standard hardware
>         > platform to develop for, there is a pretty decent( and
>         > getting better) deathgrip on DRM, and they are starting to
>         > gain the benefits that was historically the PC bread and
>         > butter ( online play and whatnot. Maybe other shit too but
>         > my only console is a hacked original xbox I use to stream
>         > video to the TV, I don't even play games on it). The people
>         > who are computer smart and want to play games are also the
>         > same people who know how to operate a bittorrent client and
>         > probably "in the know" on the latest tracker.
>         > 
>         > My subscription to this list has evolved from informative,
>         > to perturbed, to angry, to bitter, to morbid humor. I will
>         > never buy another product from Epic. Shame too, I was the
>         > "Unreal" guy at the office. UT2k was freaking awesome. Linux
>         > client, shitload of mods when it was out ( was one where you
>         > fought in fricking hot air balloons that I LOVED, and a top
>         > town aliens type one that was good fun ), tons of players
>         > online all the time, tons of maps ( my fav are rats type
>         > maps ). The "Make Something Unreal" contest was sweet. I had
>         > a couple servers running with various mods and maps for
>         > awhile and would get my coworkers to buy copies to frag it
>         > up. We needed to test some new switches so we all stayed
>         > late. The IT dept vs Sales in various maps/game types. I
>         > absolutely loved that game. Now? 
>         > 
>         > Epic can burn down and I wouldn't shed a tear. 
>         > 
>         > 
>         > 
>         > excuse grammar and spelling please. I just got back from the
>         > dentist and my face feels like I took a shock rifle combo.
>         > Using alcohol as a health pack.
>         > 
>         > 
>         > PS. The IT vs Sales was pretty much even. Our sales team was
>         > the only one I have ever liked in my years in the industry.
>         > 
>         > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:58 PM, <majic.one at gmail.com>
>         > wrote:
>         >         Seems sort of pointless to waste the resources on
>         >         that icculus server if there's a mailinglist for a
>         >         game that will never be released, then... I just
>         >         want an update, I don't care if the release date
>         >         isn't posted. :(
>         >         
>         >         On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:53:07 +0200
>         >         Andrea Chiumenti <kiuma72 at gmail.com> wrote:
>         >         
>         >         > We were fucked around by Epic, get over it :(
>         >         >
>         >         > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Sir Brizz
>         >         <sir.brizz at gmail.com> wrote:
>         >         >
>         >         > >  Duke Nukem Forever
>         >         > >
>         >         > >
>         >         > > On 7/6/09 9:46 AM, João Eduardo wrote:
>         >         > >
>         >         > > For ever ever?
>         >         > >
>         >         > >
>         >         > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Christophe
>         >         BOULLANGER <
>         >         > > cbo at info-services.biz> wrote:
>         >         > >
>         >         > >>  and ever
>         >         > >>
>         >         > >>  ------------------------------
>         >         > >> *De :* Andrea Chiumenti
>         >         [mailto:kiuma72 at gmail.com]
>         >         > >> *Envoyé :* lundi 6 juillet 2009 11:33
>         >         > >> *À :* wellsfrago at gmail.com; UT3 mailing list
>         >         > >> *Objet :* Re: [ut3] STFU
>         >         > >>
>         >         > >>  never
>         >         > >>
>         >         > >> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Cube
>         >         <wellsfrago at gmail.com> wrote:
>         >         > >>
>         >         > >>> whens UT3 coming out for linux?
>         >         > >>>
>         >         
>         > 
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