[ut3] I would be happy to just know why its been delayed

ceil420 at gmail.com ceil420 at gmail.com
Mon Feb 23 10:19:22 EST 2009


My phone adds that automatically. I'll look into changing it.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Kuehling <thomas.kuehling at netzdeponie.de>

Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:15:09 
To: <ut3 at icculus.org>
Subject: Re: [ut3] I would be happy to just know why its been delayed

Could we_please_ go back to on-topic discussions? This spaming is
really annoying! Also i'm not interested, if anyone sent his mail with a
CrackBerry!

Regards
Thomas

Am Montag, den 23.02.2009, 15:09 +0000 schrieb ceil420 at gmail.com:
> Never thought I'd agree with you on this ML, but you're right on that.
> Wish I could enable a filter from here :x
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> 
>______________________________________________________________________
> From: Sir Brizz 
> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:01:39 -0700
> To: <ut3 at icculus.org>
> Subject: Re: [ut3] I would be happy to just know why its been delayed
> 
> 
> Someone remove Undead from this list so we can all shut up peacefully.
> 
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 7:55 AM, cdx <codex at grytz.net> wrote:
>         Not everyone has steam installed, right? [whisper] It's
>         Spyware ... [/whisper]
>         
>         
>         
>         UndeadDevil's Shadow wrote:
>         > Another ATi lover?
>         > http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/ < Proof
>         > that ATi is dead maybe?
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > God I said i'll quit with the posting as this list isn't the
>         > place for arguing about silly stuff like this....
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > Not that it matters guys, UT3 will NEVER COME OUT ON LINUX!
>         > Ryan finished it a good year ago! Accept that it'll never
>         > come out and un-subscribe!
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > From: =TG=McRag [mailto:harryrag at true-gamers.nl] 
>         > Sent: 23 February 2009 14:24
>         > To: ut3 at icculus.org
>         > Subject: RE: [ut3] I would be happy to just know why its
>         > been delayed
>         > 
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > Seen enough of your stuff, added to spamfilter, bye bye
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > From: UndeadDevil's Shadow [mailto:shadow at s-i-g-m-a.net] 
>         > Sent: maandag 23 februari 2009 15:00
>         > To: ut3 at icculus.org
>         > Subject: RE: [ut3] I would be happy to just know why its
>         > been delayed
>         > 
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > I didn't say that, ATi until a year or so ago had ZERO linux
>         > support, unlike nVidia! This is a fact.
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > My attitude, is bad, i'm sorry for this, but I wish people
>         > would see ATi and AMD for the washed up crap they are.
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > This isn't the place for this, so i'll quit. Here's hoping
>         > we actually get a UT3 Linux Client (Get the message guys, it
>         > aint going to happen – Though I hope I Can eat my own
>         > words....)
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > From: Daniel Hunt [mailto:daniel.hunt at gmail.com] 
>         > Sent: 23 February 2009 13:56
>         > To: ut3 at icculus.org
>         > Subject: Re: [ut3] I would be happy to just know why its
>         > been delayed
>         > 
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > Well, I've yet to see anyone reply to him to argue with him
>         > about it. He's just assuming that anyone that thinks ill of
>         > him also believes that ATI walk around in gold slippers.
>         > 
>         > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Kingster
>         > <kingster at unrealplayground.com> wrote:
>         > 
>         > Does it really matter?  The chumps holding on to the
>         > ATI/Nvidia fight, or the AMD/Intel fight need to move on.
>         >  As far as I can tell, you're the only one around doing that
>         > "UndeadDevil's Shadow".   Who cares.  If AMD/ATI is dead,
>         > then so be it, but we don't need you telling us.  I think
>         > what the argument was is that ATI has done a better job of
>         > opening their drivers up for the Linux community than has
>         > Nvidia, and then you go spouting all this crap.  Thanks!  We
>         > would have never realized that we needed to pipe your drivel
>         > to /dev/null without it.  And Duke3D on 10Base2?  I was
>         > running an ISP at that time.  But, congrats.  I'm surprised
>         > you've lived this long, especially with that attitude.
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > There are plenty of good people that are listening here, for
>         > something other than what you're spouting.
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > So.  Now…  Either contribute something useful to the list,
>         > or STFU.  Please.
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > From: UndeadDevil's Shadow [mailto:shadow at s-i-g-m-a.net] 
>         > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 7:42 AM
>         > 
>         > 
>         > To: ut3 at icculus.org
>         > Subject: RE: [ut3] I would be happy to just know why its
>         > been delayed
>         > 
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > God, I should go even further, your saying I'm young, I
>         > played Duke3D on a 10mbps Co-Ax, did you? You're not even
>         > mature enough to admit that ATI and AMD have died (Proven
>         > fact by Stocks let alone sales of CPU's and GPU's, not even
>         > the 4700 has saved ATi) Good riddance is what a good 60-70%
>         > of the world is saying.... at least they should be.
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > Those who don't believe me here you go...
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > ATi have 19% market share according to Steam, nVidia is 41%
>         > (Added it up from DX10 GPU's + DX9 Shader Model 2b and DX9
>         > Shader Model 2, have you guys not seen the Steam Hardware
>         > Survey?)
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > nVidia won, why can't ATi idiots accept this? I'll leave
>         > them to this, I just hope they shut up and actually read
>         > evidence before arguing with me again...
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > Here's the Steam Hardware Survey for those who still reckon
>         > ATi still exists....
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > From: UndeadDevil's Shadow [mailto:shadow at s-i-g-m-a.net] 
>         > Sent: 23 February 2009 13:30
>         > To: ut3 at icculus.org
>         > Subject: RE: [ut3] I would be happy to just know why its
>         > been delayed
>         > 
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > I'm probably older than you...... And btw Blackberry sucks,
>         > get a HTC PDA :P They can simultaneously run Windows Mobile
>         > and Google Android :P
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > I have stated nothing but facts, ATi have never written a
>         > decent driver in their life span, they are now a dead
>         > company desperately trying to make up for it and gain a
>         > slight amount of the market back, etc....
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > Seriously if you're in denial about ATi being a dead company
>         > then well, you're the one who shouldn't be on this list...
>         > At least I can state and admit to the truth...
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > Go look up ATi's FTSE-100, omg sorry I forgot AMD aren't
>         > even in the FTSE-100!!! Intel are, nVidia are, etc but no
>         > AMD or ATi!! (Hell even my ISP is in the FTSE-100, AMD and
>         > ATi are dead fucking accept it you twat)
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > From: ceil420 at gmail.com [mailto:ceil420 at gmail.com] 
>         > Sent: 23 February 2009 13:27
>         > To: ut3 at icculus.org
>         > Subject: Re: [ut3] I would be happy to just know why its
>         > been delayed
>         > 
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > There should be an age restriction on this ML... Are you
>         > even old enough to legally acquire an M-Rated game?
>         > 
>         > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>         > 
>         >                               
>         >____________________________________________________________
>         > From: UndeadDevil's Shadow 
>         > Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 05:22:12 -0800
>         > To: ut3 at icculus.org<ut3 at icculus.org>
>         > Subject: RE: [ut3] I would be happy to just know why its
>         > been delayed
>         > 
>         > Come on nVidia guys, back me up here, we can ran BackTrack4
>         > and use CUDA to crack WPA2 keys within 5 mins, ATi users
>         > can't do jack shit thanks to ATi being, well frankly, ATi
>         > lol....  nVidia offered to shared PhysX, ATi said fuck you
>         > back to them, a user tried to port it, but ended up failing
>         > because ATi said fuck you to him
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > ATi have always been a bad company for drivers, always will
>         > be no matter what OS, hell even there modern drivers look
>         > like there where designed for Windows 3.1! (You can't argue
>         > this! Just look for your self!)
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > Anyone who denys that ATi have died are idiots, Steam's
>         > Survey crap proves they have less than 20% market share (Yes
>         > that's 70% to nVidia, nuff said!)
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > Grow the hell up you ATi Worshipers, how can you appreciate
>         > such awful crap, that's all ATi have ever produced, I gave
>         > up with them after my first ATi card, which caused me
>         > constant BSOD's in Windows XP, hell the card wasn't even
>         > usable in Linux back then, still isn't actually so you guys
>         > can STFU. Grow up, ATi don't give two shits about support,
>         > at least nVidia do! nVidia's drivers = All features
>         > supported that the Windows Drivers Support. ATi's driver =
>         > barely anything that's supported on Windows = Sorry have ATi
>         > released there CUDA Clone yet???? OMG they did it slightly
>         > better just to be gits.... etc.....)
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > Grow up, or hell flame me calling me a liar about all this
>         > ATi stuff, i'll own you if you do, assuming your not soo up
>         > your arse that you'll /null me because you know I'll own you
>         > or make you go mental trying to own me fighting a cause
>         > that's already lost....
>         > 
>         > From: UndeadDevil's Shadow [mailto:shadow at s-i-g-m-a.net] 
>         > Sent: 23 February 2009 13:12
>         > To: ut3 at icculus.org
>         > Subject: RE: [ut3] I would be happy to just know why its
>         > been delayed
>         > 
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > Prove to me that ATi's drivers are worth jack shit on Linux
>         > and i'll STFU, so far Intel GMA Chipsets work better than
>         > any ATi chipset despite the ATi chipset being 8x more
>         > powerful. Go check for yourself, ATi have always been awful
>         > at writing drivers, if you want to argue that then you're
>         > not worth even knowing as a human as your full of bullshit.
>         > (Seriously, why the hell do you think ATi lost the frigging
>         > card war years ago? Why do you think they have less than 20%
>         > market share, its DRIVERS, they finally realised that there
>         > drivers suck a year ago or so. Finally released ALPHA
>         > drivers that supported Compiz, well my Intel GMA 915 Chipset
>         > is more reliable than my ATi chip on Linux, end of story.
>         > The ATi = Bullshit, Intel or nVidia or Hell even a S3
>         > Chipset = Decent Performance compared to the piece of crap
>         > ATi will always come out with
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > Seriously grow up and realise that ATi are now a dead
>         > company, AMD is holding on by a little bit of thin string
>         > and they brought it on their self's, they will never be one
>         > up over Intel ever again, and they deserve it for buying ATi
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > From: ceil420 at gmail.com [mailto:ceil420 at gmail.com]
>         > Sent: 23 February 2009 13:08
>         > To: ut3 at icculus.org
>         > Subject: Re: [ut3] I would be happy to just know why its
>         > been delayed
>         > 
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > Second that. 
>         > 
>         > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>         > 
>         >                               
>         >____________________________________________________________
>         > From: Daniel Hunt 
>         > Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:04:41 +0000
>         > To: <ut3 at icculus.org>
>         > Subject: Re: [ut3] I would be happy to just know why its
>         > been delayed
>         > 
>         > I think I'll setup a pipe to /dev/null for your useless
>         > meanderings
>         > 
>         > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:01 PM, UndeadDevil's Shadow
>         > <shadow at s-i-g-m-a.net> wrote:
>         > 
>         > ATi's drivers on Linux are /dev/null (You wan't to argue
>         > this? Well your a twat if you do
>         > 
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > 
>         >  
>         > 
>         > 
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