[ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3

Fri Feb 20 15:46:35 EST 2009

yeah, grow up, and quit expecting what you were told you were purchasing.
the nerve of you ingrates!

On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 08:36:44PM +0000, Daniel Hunt wrote:
> I refuse to read the 37 emails from this list since I left work earlier on,
> but I could probably guess that they're all attacks on Brizz.
> Seriously guys - you bought the game, despite *knowing* that it was
> absolutely 100% impossible to play the game on Linux. I did the same thing,
> and actually installed Windows again so I could try it out.
> Yes, we were told that we'd be looked after, but priorities change in
> companies, and as Windows & Consoles will *always* be > Linux, we got
> screwed in the crossfire.
> 
> Is it a pain in the hole? Yes.
> Is it disgraceful? Yes.
> Do we have any right to flame and chastise people for stating the truth?
> Absolutely not.
> 
> I agree that it's a terrible shame that we're being kept in the dark after
> all this time, but acting like a bunch of spoiled kids is *not* going to
> garner support.
> 
> Grow the hell up.
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Luiz Gustavo Angelo <loezix at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
> > dude, he is a bot, that's why he keeps repeating the same thing to
> > everybody all the time :lol:
> >
> > it's joke, Sir
> > IHaveMultitaskSkillLv99PoweredByGoogleSearchAndIBMonPowerIntelInsideARMEnabledWithLasersOnTopOfTheHeadCombinedwithStopTimeMagicFromFFSeries
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Sir Brizz <sir.brizz at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Fortunately I have a skill called "multitasking". Watching this list takes
> >> about 0.000002% of my time on the heaviest days.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2/20/09 1:14 PM, max wrote:
> >>
> >>> Brizz     You are only sitting behind your pc watching this list dude.
> >>> You like us have no real life
> >>> The color of the sky there is the same as your seiling.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sir Brizz" <sir.brizz at gmail.com>
> >>> To: <ut3 at icculus.org>
> >>> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:48 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Nice job summarizing exactly what I am NOT doing :)
> >>>>
> >>>> Brizz
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2/20/09 12:47 PM, David L. Willson wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Yes, I'm sure.  You're so in touch with reality.  Let's have a check
> >>>>> then, shall we?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Them: No updates.
> >>>>> Us:   - annoyance -
> >>>>> Them: No updates.
> >>>>> Us:   - frustration -
> >>>>> Them: No updates.
> >>>>> Us:   - anger -
> >>>>> You:  It's your own fault if you got screwed.  You assumed the
> >>>>> position.
> >>>>> Us:   - anger -
> >>>>> You:  They don't give us any updates because of you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You're an idiot, or you're doing a great impression.  I don't care
> >>>>> which.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -- David
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Sir Brizz"<sir.brizz at gmail.com>
> >>>>> To: ut3 at icculus.org
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 12:40:27 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada
> >>>>> Mountain
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The real color.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2/20/09 12:39 PM, David L. Willson wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What color is the sky in your world?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --David
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Sir Brizz"<sir.brizz at gmail.com>  To: ut3 at icculus.org Sent:
> >>>>> Friday, February 20, 2009 12:31:30 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So you're saying it's better if reasonable people don't speak up on
> >>>>> this list and give Ryan the false impression that every single person
> >>>>> "still" waiting for the Linux client is a rabid dog waiting to attack him as
> >>>>> soon as he shows his face? o_O These threads are the embodiment of why we
> >>>>> don't get active updates from him.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Brizz
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2/20/09 12:17 PM, ceil420 at gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Obviously subscribers do have a life away from UT3 - as you yourself
> >>>>> said, this ML is silent for months at a time. Then one user asks about the
> >>>>> client, and all the regulars get fired up for a few days. Then more months
> >>>>> of silence, and the cycle begins again. We're not here bitching about the
> >>>>> client every day.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Then you deride the users for 'personally attacking Brizz', and in the
> >>>>> next breath tell them to move out of their mom's basement. What's that all
> >>>>> about?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This mailing list is occasional therapy for angry and seemingly
> >>>>> abandoned linux lovers until such a time as the client is actually released;
> >>>>> at which time, we can have real discussion regarding the linux client rather
> >>>>> than cry about its unavailability. Until then, it'd probably be best if
> >>>>> Brizz and his ilk would lay off and let the users vent a bit.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As little as their crying is helping matters, Brizz's bitching about
> >>>>> their crying is only making matters worse. Let linux lovers enjoy our
> >>>>> rage-powered therapy for a few days of the month. Women the world over are
> >>>>> allowed something similar, after all ;)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And now I've opened myself up to a whole new attack from the one or two
> >>>>> feminists subscribing to this mailing list... My work here is done. :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >>>>>  From : Kevin Podbielniak
> >>>>> Date : Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:57:13 -0500
> >>>>> To :<ut3 at icculus.org>  Subject : Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to
> >>>>> UT3
> >>>>> Wow, it's really crazy with all the other things happening in this day
> >>>>> and age (economy for one), you people are still bitching about being screwed
> >>>>> and blaming Epic.  Yes, there is no UT3 Linux client, I would love one, but
> >>>>> damn, it was well over 15-16 months ago, haven't you guys moved on to
> >>>>> something else, or does your entire life of existence live and breath
> >>>>> moaning and complaining about Epic screwing you out of UT3 Linux client?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I find it entertaining once and a while when someone posts a "any news
> >>>>> about the UT3 Linux client" message, especially if a couple months go by and
> >>>>> this list is inactive.  But once that first email comes out, then everyone
> >>>>> gets on their "Epic screwed us, we want our client or money back" bandwagon,
> >>>>> and now it appears that you guys are attacking Sir Brizz for stating facts
> >>>>> and reason and offering other courses of action, but you guys just won't
> >>>>> have it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> do you know how many other games are out there that we can play, go
> >>>>> friggen play them!  Get out of your parents basement and trade in your copy
> >>>>> of UT3 so you can move the F on.  jeezuz.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If I were Ryan, I too would ignore the bunch of whiny baby's here.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Sir Brizz<  sir.brizz at gmail.com>
> >>>>>  wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm 100% positive he is. :) Actually, I bet that's why he made this
> >>>>> mailing list! So he'd have a group of people to ignore! :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Brizz
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2/20/09 11:14 AM, ceil420 at gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The only 'official' person I've ever seen post here is Gordon, and he's
> >>>>> probably in hiding to avoid taking the brunt of the users vs. Epic
> >>>>> confrontation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >>>>>  From : Sir Brizz
> >>>>> Date : Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:09:39 -0700
> >>>>> To :<ut3 at icculus.org>  Subject : Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to
> >>>>> UT3
> >>>>> Okay, I see. :p
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you ask me, these threads on this mailing list simply emphasize that
> >>>>> there are an unreasonably high number of unreasonable people subscribed
> >>>>> here, and that is probably the reason why no official people see any reason
> >>>>> to continue posting on here.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Brizz
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2/20/09 10:52 AM, Daniel Eckl wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm on the wrong list because I think it's moronic to blame somebody
> >>>>> else for something you did yourself? No. Not at all. It's okay when you
> >>>>> think so. Perhaps you are even right, who knows. I want to judge that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But face it: You can't stop it this way. You tell it every single one
> >>>>> who complains here, but notice that this did not stop a single one from
> >>>>> doing so.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But notice the other thing:
> >>>>> Normally, when one complains, perhaps one or two would join and the
> >>>>> subject is done again for the next few days.
> >>>>> And now look at this thread. One was complaining, you again state your
> >>>>> thoughts about that and voil?! we have a 20 messages thread and still
> >>>>> counting.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So if you really are pissed about useless mails on this list, then all
> >>>>> you need to do is to restrain your finger when your mouse cursor is hovering
> >>>>> over the reply button.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best,
> >>>>> Daniel
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 18:42, Sir Brizz<  sir.brizz at gmail.com>
> >>>>>  wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm on the wrong list because I think it's moronic to blame somebody
> >>>>> else for something you did yourself? Okay...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I want the Linux client as much as the next person and I wish Epic
> >>>>> could or would give better updates on it's progress (or, at leat, Ryan) but
> >>>>> it's pointless to sit around whining about buying the game. Call the BBB or
> >>>>> get over it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Brizz
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2/20/09 10:39 AM, David L. Willson wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I must have misunderstood you.  You closed your post with: "...contact
> >>>>> your local Better Business Bureau and ask them if you
> >>>>> have a case. I'm willing to bet you don't."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Well, I'm "willing to bet" he does.  Epic seems to have admitted as
> >>>>> much by offering the other fellow store credit.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What did you mean by the words "willing to bet"?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Go piss up a rope, Brizz.  You're on the wrong list, as the other,
> >>>>> other guy said so kindly and gently.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --David
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Sir Brizz"<  sir.brizz at gmail.com>
> >>>>> To: ut3 at icculus.org Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:34:04 AM GMT
> >>>>> -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why would I bet on it? Just have him go do it. If they take his case,
> >>>>> great, he'll get his money back and he can go blame someone else for other
> >>>>> crap in his life.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm really honestly not defending Epic in this case, just because you
> >>>>> made a crap buying decision doesn't somehow make someone else responsible
> >>>>> for that. If you're mad, be mad about something real, don't fabricate
> >>>>> something else to make it seem like it's even worse than it really is.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you want to complain about the fact there is no Linux client, be my
> >>>>> guest. But don't act like Epic put a gun to your head, walked you to the
> >>>>> game store, took the money out of your wallet and gave it to the cashier
> >>>>> then ran away clicking their heels and laughing. What's with the desire to
> >>>>> blame someone else for your own stupidity?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Brizz
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2/20/09 10:29 AM, David L. Willson wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And I still think you're full of shit, Brizz.  I'll take $5.  If the
> >>>>> BBB (or equivalent) accepts his complaint and adds it to their shit list for
> >>>>> Epic, I win.  If they feel that his complaint is baseless, you win.  Do we
> >>>>> have a bet?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --David
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Sir Brizz"<  sir.brizz at gmail.com>    To: ut3 at icculus.org Sent:
> >>>>> Friday, February 20, 2009 10:11:39 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do we need to go through this again? Purchasing something you didn't
> >>>>> want or couldn't use is your own fault. I suggest if you are so torn up
> >>>>> over it to contact your local Better Business Bureau and ask them if
> >>>>> you
> >>>>> have a case. I'm willing to bet you don't.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Brizz
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2/20/09 10:04 AM, jeff wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I tried pretty hard, and epic told me that in good faith they would
> >>>>> send me a sealed box that I could return to gamestop, which would only
> >>>>> give me current value of the game or an exchange..  Which I felt wasnt
> >>>>> fair and that I deserved full price for the game, not to mention it
> >>>>> would be punishing the wrong people.  Epic deserves to pay for this,
> >>>>> not the retailers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Chris wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Has anyone managed to get their money back?  I mean it has been over a
> >>>>> year and I broke the seal on mine but I never play the game because I
> >>>>> don't run Windows (except in a VM).  My whole purchase was based on
> >>>>> the fact that they have always released Linux versions and they said
> >>>>> they would continue that with UT3.  I want my money back.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> CR
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Alberto<  albertodetena at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ..........and what about a linux client I wonder?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I feel laughed at by Epic. ---
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