[ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3

Sir Brizz sir.brizz at gmail.com
Fri Feb 20 15:17:48 EST 2009


Fortunately I have a skill called "multitasking". Watching this list 
takes about 0.000002% of my time on the heaviest days.

On 2/20/09 1:14 PM, max wrote:
> Brizz     You are only sitting behind your pc watching this list dude. 
> You like us have no real life
> The color of the sky there is the same as your seiling.
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sir Brizz" <sir.brizz at gmail.com>
> To: <ut3 at icculus.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3
>
>
>> Nice job summarizing exactly what I am NOT doing :)
>>
>> Brizz
>>
>> On 2/20/09 12:47 PM, David L. Willson wrote:
>>> Yes, I'm sure.  You're so in touch with reality.  Let's have a check 
>>> then, shall we?
>>>
>>> Them: No updates.
>>> Us:   - annoyance -
>>> Them: No updates.
>>> Us:   - frustration -
>>> Them: No updates.
>>> Us:   - anger -
>>> You:  It's your own fault if you got screwed.  You assumed the 
>>> position.
>>> Us:   - anger -
>>> You:  They don't give us any updates because of you.
>>>
>>> You're an idiot, or you're doing a great impression.  I don't care 
>>> which.
>>>
>>> -- David
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Sir Brizz"<sir.brizz at gmail.com>
>>> To: ut3 at icculus.org
>>> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 12:40:27 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada 
>>> Mountain
>>> Subject: Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3
>>>
>>> The real color.
>>>
>>> On 2/20/09 12:39 PM, David L. Willson wrote:
>>>
>>> What color is the sky in your world?
>>>
>>> --David
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Sir Brizz"<sir.brizz at gmail.com>  To: ut3 at icculus.org Sent: 
>>> Friday, February 20, 2009 12:31:30 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
>>> Subject: Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3
>>>
>>> So you're saying it's better if reasonable people don't speak up on 
>>> this list and give Ryan the false impression that every single 
>>> person "still" waiting for the Linux client is a rabid dog waiting 
>>> to attack him as soon as he shows his face? o_O These threads are 
>>> the embodiment of why we don't get active updates from him.
>>>
>>> Brizz
>>>
>>> On 2/20/09 12:17 PM, ceil420 at gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Obviously subscribers do have a life away from UT3 - as you yourself 
>>> said, this ML is silent for months at a time. Then one user asks 
>>> about the client, and all the regulars get fired up for a few days. 
>>> Then more months of silence, and the cycle begins again. We're not 
>>> here bitching about the client every day.
>>>
>>> Then you deride the users for 'personally attacking Brizz', and in 
>>> the next breath tell them to move out of their mom's basement. 
>>> What's that all about?
>>>
>>> This mailing list is occasional therapy for angry and seemingly 
>>> abandoned linux lovers until such a time as the client is actually 
>>> released; at which time, we can have real discussion regarding the 
>>> linux client rather than cry about its unavailability. Until then, 
>>> it'd probably be best if Brizz and his ilk would lay off and let the 
>>> users vent a bit.
>>>
>>> As little as their crying is helping matters, Brizz's bitching about 
>>> their crying is only making matters worse. Let linux lovers enjoy 
>>> our rage-powered therapy for a few days of the month. Women the 
>>> world over are allowed something similar, after all ;)
>>>
>>> And now I've opened myself up to a whole new attack from the one or 
>>> two feminists subscribing to this mailing list... My work here is 
>>> done. :)
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>>  From : Kevin Podbielniak
>>> Date : Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:57:13 -0500
>>> To :<ut3 at icculus.org>  Subject : Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to 
>>> UT3
>>> Wow, it's really crazy with all the other things happening in this 
>>> day and age (economy for one), you people are still bitching about 
>>> being screwed and blaming Epic.  Yes, there is no UT3 Linux client, 
>>> I would love one, but damn, it was well over 15-16 months ago, 
>>> haven't you guys moved on to something else, or does your entire 
>>> life of existence live and breath moaning and complaining about Epic 
>>> screwing you out of UT3 Linux client?
>>>
>>> I find it entertaining once and a while when someone posts a "any 
>>> news about the UT3 Linux client" message, especially if a couple 
>>> months go by and this list is inactive.  But once that first email 
>>> comes out, then everyone gets on their "Epic screwed us, we want our 
>>> client or money back" bandwagon, and now it appears that you guys 
>>> are attacking Sir Brizz for stating facts and reason and offering 
>>> other courses of action, but you guys just won't have it.
>>>
>>> do you know how many other games are out there that we can play, go 
>>> friggen play them!  Get out of your parents basement and trade in 
>>> your copy of UT3 so you can move the F on.  jeezuz.
>>>
>>> If I were Ryan, I too would ignore the bunch of whiny baby's here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Sir Brizz<  sir.brizz at gmail.com>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm 100% positive he is. :) Actually, I bet that's why he made this 
>>> mailing list! So he'd have a group of people to ignore! :)
>>>
>>> Brizz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/20/09 11:14 AM, ceil420 at gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> The only 'official' person I've ever seen post here is Gordon, and 
>>> he's probably in hiding to avoid taking the brunt of the users vs. 
>>> Epic confrontation.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>>  From : Sir Brizz
>>> Date : Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:09:39 -0700
>>> To :<ut3 at icculus.org>  Subject : Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to 
>>> UT3
>>> Okay, I see. :p
>>>
>>> If you ask me, these threads on this mailing list simply emphasize 
>>> that there are an unreasonably high number of unreasonable people 
>>> subscribed here, and that is probably the reason why no official 
>>> people see any reason to continue posting on here.
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>> Brizz
>>>
>>> On 2/20/09 10:52 AM, Daniel Eckl wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm on the wrong list because I think it's moronic to blame somebody 
>>> else for something you did yourself? No. Not at all. It's okay when 
>>> you think so. Perhaps you are even right, who knows. I want to judge 
>>> that.
>>>
>>> But face it: You can't stop it this way. You tell it every single 
>>> one who complains here, but notice that this did not stop a single 
>>> one from doing so.
>>>
>>> But notice the other thing:
>>> Normally, when one complains, perhaps one or two would join and the 
>>> subject is done again for the next few days.
>>> And now look at this thread. One was complaining, you again state 
>>> your thoughts about that and voilà! we have a 20 messages thread and 
>>> still counting.
>>>
>>> So if you really are pissed about useless mails on this list, then 
>>> all you need to do is to restrain your finger when your mouse cursor 
>>> is hovering over the reply button.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 18:42, Sir Brizz<  sir.brizz at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm on the wrong list because I think it's moronic to blame somebody 
>>> else for something you did yourself? Okay...
>>>
>>> I want the Linux client as much as the next person and I wish Epic 
>>> could or would give better updates on it's progress (or, at leat, 
>>> Ryan) but it's pointless to sit around whining about buying the 
>>> game. Call the BBB or get over it.
>>>
>>> Brizz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/20/09 10:39 AM, David L. Willson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I must have misunderstood you.  You closed your post with: 
>>> "...contact your local Better Business Bureau and ask them if you
>>> have a case. I'm willing to bet you don't."
>>>
>>> Well, I'm "willing to bet" he does.  Epic seems to have admitted as 
>>> much by offering the other fellow store credit.
>>>
>>> What did you mean by the words "willing to bet"?
>>>
>>> Go piss up a rope, Brizz.  You're on the wrong list, as the other, 
>>> other guy said so kindly and gently.
>>>
>>> --David
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Sir Brizz"<  sir.brizz at gmail.com>
>>> To: ut3 at icculus.org Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:34:04 AM GMT 
>>> -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
>>> Subject: Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3
>>>
>>> Why would I bet on it? Just have him go do it. If they take his 
>>> case, great, he'll get his money back and he can go blame someone 
>>> else for other crap in his life.
>>>
>>> I'm really honestly not defending Epic in this case, just because 
>>> you made a crap buying decision doesn't somehow make someone else 
>>> responsible for that. If you're mad, be mad about something real, 
>>> don't fabricate something else to make it seem like it's even worse 
>>> than it really is.
>>>
>>> If you want to complain about the fact there is no Linux client, be 
>>> my guest. But don't act like Epic put a gun to your head, walked you 
>>> to the game store, took the money out of your wallet and gave it to 
>>> the cashier then ran away clicking their heels and laughing. What's 
>>> with the desire to blame someone else for your own stupidity?
>>>
>>> Brizz
>>>
>>> On 2/20/09 10:29 AM, David L. Willson wrote:
>>>
>>> And I still think you're full of shit, Brizz.  I'll take $5.  If the 
>>> BBB (or equivalent) accepts his complaint and adds it to their shit 
>>> list for Epic, I win.  If they feel that his complaint is baseless, 
>>> you win.  Do we have a bet?
>>>
>>> --David
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Sir Brizz"<  sir.brizz at gmail.com>    To: ut3 at icculus.org 
>>> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:11:39 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada 
>>> Mountain
>>> Subject: Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3
>>>
>>> Do we need to go through this again? Purchasing something you didn't
>>> want or couldn't use is your own fault. I suggest if you are so torn up
>>> over it to contact your local Better Business Bureau and ask them if 
>>> you
>>> have a case. I'm willing to bet you don't.
>>>
>>> Brizz
>>>
>>> On 2/20/09 10:04 AM, jeff wrote:
>>>
>>> I tried pretty hard, and epic told me that in good faith they would
>>> send me a sealed box that I could return to gamestop, which would only
>>> give me current value of the game or an exchange..  Which I felt wasnt
>>> fair and that I deserved full price for the game, not to mention it
>>> would be punishing the wrong people.  Epic deserves to pay for this,
>>> not the retailers.
>>>
>>> Chris wrote:
>>>
>>> Has anyone managed to get their money back?  I mean it has been over a
>>> year and I broke the seal on mine but I never play the game because I
>>> don't run Windows (except in a VM).  My whole purchase was based on
>>> the fact that they have always released Linux versions and they said
>>> they would continue that with UT3.  I want my money back.
>>>
>>> CR
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Alberto<  albertodetena at gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> ..........and what about a linux client I wonder?
>>>
>>>
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