[ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3

Fri Feb 20 14:34:37 EST 2009

amen Sir Brizz

On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Sir Brizz <sir.brizz at gmail.com> wrote:

>  So you're saying it's better if reasonable people don't speak up on this
> list and give Ryan the false impression that every single person "still"
> waiting for the Linux client is a rabid dog waiting to attack him as soon as
> he shows his face? o_O These threads are the embodiment of why we don't get
> active updates from him.
>
> Brizz
>
>
> On 2/20/09 12:17 PM, ceil420 at gmail.com wrote:
>
> Obviously subscribers do have a life away from UT3 - as you yourself said,
> this ML is silent for months at a time. Then one user asks about the client,
> and all the regulars get fired up for a few days. Then more months of
> silence, and the cycle begins again. We're not here bitching about the
> client every day.
>
> Then you deride the users for 'personally attacking Brizz', and in the next
> breath tell them to move out of their mom's basement. What's that all about?
>
> This mailing list is occasional therapy for angry and seemingly abandoned
> linux lovers until such a time as the client is actually released; at which
> time, we can have real discussion regarding the linux client rather than cry
> about its unavailability. Until then, it'd probably be best if Brizz and his
> ilk would lay off and let the users vent a bit.
>
> As little as their crying is helping matters, Brizz's bitching about their
> crying is only making matters worse. Let linux lovers enjoy our rage-powered
> therapy for a few days of the month. Women the world over are allowed
> something similar, after all ;)
>
> And now I've opened myself up to a whole new attack from the one or two
> feminists subscribing to this mailing list... My work here is done. :)
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> ------------------------------
> *From*: Kevin Podbielniak
> *Date*: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:57:13 -0500
> *To*: <ut3 at icculus.org> <ut3 at icculus.org>
> *Subject*: Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3
> Wow, it's really crazy with all the other things happening in this day and
> age (economy for one), you people are still bitching about being screwed and
> blaming Epic.  Yes, there is no UT3 Linux client, I would love one, but
> damn, it was well over 15-16 months ago, haven't you guys moved on to
> something else, or does your entire life of existence live and breath
> moaning and complaining about Epic screwing you out of UT3 Linux client?
>
> I find it entertaining once and a while when someone posts a "any news
> about the UT3 Linux client" message, especially if a couple months go by and
> this list is inactive.  But once that first email comes out, then everyone
> gets on their "Epic screwed us, we want our client or money back" bandwagon,
> and now it appears that you guys are attacking Sir Brizz for stating facts
> and reason and offering other courses of action, but you guys just won't
> have it.
>
> do you know how many other games are out there that we can play, go friggen
> play them!  Get out of your parents basement and trade in your copy of UT3
> so you can move the F on.  jeezuz.
>
> If I were Ryan, I too would ignore the bunch of whiny baby's here.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Sir Brizz <sir.brizz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  I'm 100% positive he is. :) Actually, I bet that's why he made this
>> mailing list! So he'd have a group of people to ignore! :)
>>
>> Brizz
>>
>> On 2/20/09 11:14 AM, ceil420 at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> The only 'official' person I've ever seen post here is Gordon, and he's
>> probably in hiding to avoid taking the brunt of the users vs. Epic
>> confrontation.
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>> ------------------------------
>> *From*: Sir Brizz
>> *Date*: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:09:39 -0700
>> *To*: <ut3 at icculus.org> <ut3 at icculus.org>
>> *Subject*: Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3
>> Okay, I see. :p
>>
>> If you ask me, these threads on this mailing list simply emphasize that
>> there are an unreasonably high number of unreasonable people subscribed
>> here, and that is probably the reason why no official people see any reason
>> to continue posting on here.
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Brizz
>>
>> On 2/20/09 10:52 AM, Daniel Eckl wrote:
>>
>> > I'm on the wrong list because I think it's moronic to blame somebody
>> else for something you did yourself?
>>
>> No. Not at all. It's okay when you think so. Perhaps you are even right,
>> who knows. I want to judge that.
>>
>> But face it: You can't stop it this way. You tell it every single one who
>> complains here, but notice that this did not stop a single one from doing
>> so.
>>
>> But notice the other thing:
>> Normally, when one complains, perhaps one or two would join and the
>> subject is done again for the next few days.
>> And now look at this thread. One was complaining, you again state your
>> thoughts about that and voilà! we have a 20 messages thread and still
>> counting.
>>
>> So if you really are pissed about useless mails on this list, then all you
>> need to do is to restrain your finger when your mouse cursor is hovering
>> over the reply button.
>>
>> Best,
>> Daniel
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 18:42, Sir Brizz <sir.brizz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm on the wrong list because I think it's moronic to blame somebody else
>>> for something you did yourself? Okay...
>>>
>>> I want the Linux client as much as the next person and I wish Epic could
>>> or would give better updates on it's progress (or, at leat, Ryan) but it's
>>> pointless to sit around whining about buying the game. Call the BBB or get
>>> over it.
>>>
>>> Brizz
>>>
>>> On 2/20/09 10:39 AM, David L. Willson wrote:
>>>
>>>> I must have misunderstood you.  You closed your post with: "...contact
>>>> your local Better Business Bureau and ask them if you
>>>> have a case. I'm willing to bet you don't."
>>>>
>>>> Well, I'm "willing to bet" he does.  Epic seems to have admitted as much
>>>> by offering the other fellow store credit.
>>>>
>>>> What did you mean by the words "willing to bet"?
>>>>
>>>> Go piss up a rope, Brizz.  You're on the wrong list, as the other, other
>>>> guy said so kindly and gently.
>>>>
>>>> --David
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Sir Brizz"<sir.brizz at gmail.com>
>>>> To: ut3 at icculus.org
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:34:04 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada
>>>> Mountain
>>>> Subject: Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3
>>>>
>>>> Why would I bet on it? Just have him go do it. If they take his case,
>>>> great, he'll get his money back and he can go blame someone else for other
>>>> crap in his life.
>>>>
>>>> I'm really honestly not defending Epic in this case, just because you
>>>> made a crap buying decision doesn't somehow make someone else responsible
>>>> for that. If you're mad, be mad about something real, don't fabricate
>>>> something else to make it seem like it's even worse than it really is.
>>>>
>>>> If you want to complain about the fact there is no Linux client, be my
>>>> guest. But don't act like Epic put a gun to your head, walked you to the
>>>> game store, took the money out of your wallet and gave it to the cashier
>>>> then ran away clicking their heels and laughing. What's with the desire to
>>>> blame someone else for your own stupidity?
>>>>
>>>> Brizz
>>>>
>>>> On 2/20/09 10:29 AM, David L. Willson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And I still think you're full of shit, Brizz.  I'll take $5.  If the BBB
>>>> (or equivalent) accepts his complaint and adds it to their shit list for
>>>> Epic, I win.  If they feel that his complaint is baseless, you win.  Do we
>>>> have a bet?
>>>>
>>>> --David
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Sir Brizz"<sir.brizz at gmail.com>  To: ut3 at icculus.org Sent:
>>>> Friday, February 20, 2009 10:11:39 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
>>>> Subject: Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3
>>>>
>>>> Do we need to go through this again? Purchasing something you didn't
>>>> want or couldn't use is your own fault. I suggest if you are so torn up
>>>> over it to contact your local Better Business Bureau and ask them if you
>>>> have a case. I'm willing to bet you don't.
>>>>
>>>> Brizz
>>>>
>>>> On 2/20/09 10:04 AM, jeff wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I tried pretty hard, and epic told me that in good faith they would
>>>> send me a sealed box that I could return to gamestop, which would only
>>>> give me current value of the game or an exchange..  Which I felt wasnt
>>>> fair and that I deserved full price for the game, not to mention it
>>>> would be punishing the wrong people.  Epic deserves to pay for this,
>>>> not the retailers.
>>>>
>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone managed to get their money back?  I mean it has been over a
>>>> year and I broke the seal on mine but I never play the game because I
>>>> don't run Windows (except in a VM).  My whole purchase was based on
>>>> the fact that they have always released Linux versions and they said
>>>> they would continue that with UT3.  I want my money back.
>>>>
>>>> CR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Alberto<albertodetena at gmail.com>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ..........and what about a linux client I wonder?
>>>>
>>>>
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