[ut3] Official release date

Slavik Goltser slavikg at gmail.com
Fri Feb 6 14:53:53 EST 2009


oh ... apologies. :(

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Sir Brizz <sir.brizz at gmail.com> wrote:

>  I think you should have read past the first sentance before clicking
> "Reply". :p
>
> And I quote:
> "Actually, Linux is fine for games, games are simply not made for Linux. So
> if you're a PC gamer, anything but Windows is not a choice (and if you say
> Wine works great, I'll slap you)."
>
> Here, let me take this down to the absolute basics so you can understand.
>
> Linux is PERFECTLY SUITABLE for games. Games (IN GENERAL) are NOT MADE for
> Linux. WINDOWS is the only platform ALL MODERN PC GAMES are MADE FOR.
>
> Hope that helps!
> Brizz
>
>
> On 2/6/09 12:47 PM, Slavik Goltser wrote:
>
> Please explain how Linux is not suitable for games. You're a moron, but I
> won't back this statement up because somehow if you are kept being called a
> moron it is suddenly true. Please explain your statement that Linux is not
> suitable for games, I am really interested in your reasons for that
> statement.
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Sir Brizz <sir.brizz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, Linux is not suitable for games. Actually, Linux is fine for games,
>> games are simply not made for Linux. So if you're a PC gamer, anything but
>> Windows is not a choice (and if you say Wine works great, I'll slap you).
>>
>> Now, I do have to admit a little guilt in responding here, because I knew
>> all you guys like to bitch and moan anytime someone comes in here that
>> doesn't agree with you, but sorry. The reality of this situation is that you
>> are bitter and want to blame someone other than yourselves. This is really
>> more like if you called up the dealership, asked if the car had GPS, told no
>> but it should be released free at some point in the future, bought the car
>> anyway and then proceeded to complain that the GPS was still not out after a
>> year. You bought the car despite the fact that it was missing the one thing
>> you wanted it for, you're the one to blame in that scenario.
>>
>> Brizz
>>
>> On 2/6/09 10:39 AM, [FnG] Lambik wrote:
>>
>> The person that told 'It has GPS in it' happens to be the salesperson, and
>> then yes you can expect to have GPS in it !
>> Not sure what kind of point you're trying to make, but seems to me your
>> only business here is to stir thing up,
>> as you have state to play games on windows only.(Linux not suitable ??)
>> Pre ordering a game has the risk of getting something that isn't quite
>> what you expect of it, but in this case there has been promised support for
>> linux OS aswell.
>> Epic has the reputation to support linux on all UT series, which has
>> formed a good basis of trust, which they have broken, and that is why ppl
>> are upset with EPIC.
>> That is something they have every right to.
>>
>> Lambik
>>
>>  On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Sir Brizz <sir.brizz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> For what? They didn't market UT3 as having Linux binaries included or
>>> available.
>>>
>>> The problem here is that Epic never guaranteed anything. I appreciate you
>>> wanting brand new boxes or whatever your case may be, however that doesn't
>>> change the fact that you bought something that didn't include the sole thing
>>> you bought it for. Can you imagine, taking this same thing to a more
>>> terrible and surely less appropriate analogy, if you bought a car because
>>> someone said it had GPS in it, never test drove it, and realized after
>>> purchasing it that it didn't have GPS in it? Would you blame the person who
>>> told you or yourself for not looking into it more?
>>>
>>> I understand that people wanted and were expecting and (possibly)
>>> promised Linux binaries and are upset, but, frankly, you DON'T have anyone
>>> to blame but yourself if you paid the money for it already. Did Epic make
>>> you spend that money? YOU were encouraged by what they said, YOU made a
>>> decision, and YOU spent the money.
>>>
>>> Brizz
>>>
>>> On 2/6/09 10:14 AM, Luiz Gustavo Angelo wrote:
>>>
>>> Epic could be sued by this, couldn't ??
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Matthias Bach <marix at marix.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> On Friday 06 February 2009 17:57:02 Sir Brizz wrote:
>>>> > And for those of you whining about how you bought the game and haven't
>>>> > played it because there is no Linux client, sorry but maybe you should
>>>> > have waited to buy it until there actually was the only thing you were
>>>> > buying it for? That seems like the practical thing to do in any
>>>> > situation.
>>>>
>>>>  You are missing the point. When I ordered the game there had been a
>>>> statement
>>>> by Epic that there would be a Linux-Installer on disc, as it had been
>>>> with
>>>> 2K4. Later they said it wouldn't be on disk, but available on the day of
>>>> release. Therefore, as I kind of like to have nice game boxes that I can
>>>> show
>>>> of, I did not bother to cancel my preorder. The problem is that I
>>>> trusted Epic
>>>> to keep to their promises.
>>>>
>>>> > Did you buy Prey the day it came out hoping that Ryan Gordon
>>>> > would release a Linux binary for it, too?
>>>>
>>>>  No I didn't, because nobody promised that Prey would be ported. When it
>>>> finally was ported this was a pleasent surprise.
>>>>
>>>> > If you want to be a thrifty
>>>> > consumer, then be thrifty. And if you aren't thrifty, don't whine that
>>>> > you made a mistake and try to blame it on Epic or anyone else. You
>>>> don't
>>>> > have anyone to blame but yourselves.
>>>>
>>>>  Maybe I have, but then it is not for expecting Epic to make a port, but
>>>> for
>>>> trusting Epic to deliver the software I ordered.
>>>>
>>>> > Personally, I'm sure a Linux binary will eventually come out for UT3
>>>> and
>>>> > when it does I will probably use it.
>>>>
>>>>  Maybe it will, after all it's already supposed to be done. The real
>>>> question
>>>> is, will their still body to play against. Will the engine still be
>>>> something
>>>> competitive to base your mods on? By the time it will probably take one
>>>> could
>>>> just as well start writing an own engine ...
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Matthias
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Luiz Gustavo Angelo
>>> T: +55 11 75452244
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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