[ut3] Official release date

Slavik Goltser slavikg at gmail.com
Fri Feb 6 14:47:46 EST 2009


Please explain how Linux is not suitable for games. You're a moron, but I
won't back this statement up because somehow if you are kept being called a
moron it is suddenly true. Please explain your statement that Linux is not
suitable for games, I am really interested in your reasons for that
statement.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Sir Brizz <sir.brizz at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Yes, Linux is not suitable for games. Actually, Linux is fine for games,
> games are simply not made for Linux. So if you're a PC gamer, anything but
> Windows is not a choice (and if you say Wine works great, I'll slap you).
>
> Now, I do have to admit a little guilt in responding here, because I knew
> all you guys like to bitch and moan anytime someone comes in here that
> doesn't agree with you, but sorry. The reality of this situation is that you
> are bitter and want to blame someone other than yourselves. This is really
> more like if you called up the dealership, asked if the car had GPS, told no
> but it should be released free at some point in the future, bought the car
> anyway and then proceeded to complain that the GPS was still not out after a
> year. You bought the car despite the fact that it was missing the one thing
> you wanted it for, you're the one to blame in that scenario.
>
> Brizz
>
>
> On 2/6/09 10:39 AM, [FnG] Lambik wrote:
>
> The person that told 'It has GPS in it' happens to be the salesperson, and
> then yes you can expect to have GPS in it !
> Not sure what kind of point you're trying to make, but seems to me your
> only business here is to stir thing up,
> as you have state to play games on windows only.(Linux not suitable ??)
> Pre ordering a game has the risk of getting something that isn't quite what
> you expect of it, but in this case there has been promised support for linux
> OS aswell.
> Epic has the reputation to support linux on all UT series, which has
> formed a good basis of trust, which they have broken, and that is why ppl
> are upset with EPIC.
> That is something they have every right to.
>
> Lambik
>
>  On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Sir Brizz <sir.brizz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> For what? They didn't market UT3 as having Linux binaries included or
>> available.
>>
>> The problem here is that Epic never guaranteed anything. I appreciate you
>> wanting brand new boxes or whatever your case may be, however that doesn't
>> change the fact that you bought something that didn't include the sole thing
>> you bought it for. Can you imagine, taking this same thing to a more
>> terrible and surely less appropriate analogy, if you bought a car because
>> someone said it had GPS in it, never test drove it, and realized after
>> purchasing it that it didn't have GPS in it? Would you blame the person who
>> told you or yourself for not looking into it more?
>>
>> I understand that people wanted and were expecting and (possibly) promised
>> Linux binaries and are upset, but, frankly, you DON'T have anyone to blame
>> but yourself if you paid the money for it already. Did Epic make you spend
>> that money? YOU were encouraged by what they said, YOU made a decision, and
>> YOU spent the money.
>>
>> Brizz
>>
>> On 2/6/09 10:14 AM, Luiz Gustavo Angelo wrote:
>>
>> Epic could be sued by this, couldn't ??
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Matthias Bach <marix at marix.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> On Friday 06 February 2009 17:57:02 Sir Brizz wrote:
>>> > And for those of you whining about how you bought the game and haven't
>>> > played it because there is no Linux client, sorry but maybe you should
>>> > have waited to buy it until there actually was the only thing you were
>>> > buying it for? That seems like the practical thing to do in any
>>> > situation.
>>>
>>>  You are missing the point. When I ordered the game there had been a
>>> statement
>>> by Epic that there would be a Linux-Installer on disc, as it had been
>>> with
>>> 2K4. Later they said it wouldn't be on disk, but available on the day of
>>> release. Therefore, as I kind of like to have nice game boxes that I can
>>> show
>>> of, I did not bother to cancel my preorder. The problem is that I trusted
>>> Epic
>>> to keep to their promises.
>>>
>>> > Did you buy Prey the day it came out hoping that Ryan Gordon
>>> > would release a Linux binary for it, too?
>>>
>>>  No I didn't, because nobody promised that Prey would be ported. When it
>>> finally was ported this was a pleasent surprise.
>>>
>>> > If you want to be a thrifty
>>> > consumer, then be thrifty. And if you aren't thrifty, don't whine that
>>> > you made a mistake and try to blame it on Epic or anyone else. You
>>> don't
>>> > have anyone to blame but yourselves.
>>>
>>>  Maybe I have, but then it is not for expecting Epic to make a port, but
>>> for
>>> trusting Epic to deliver the software I ordered.
>>>
>>> > Personally, I'm sure a Linux binary will eventually come out for UT3
>>> and
>>> > when it does I will probably use it.
>>>
>>>  Maybe it will, after all it's already supposed to be done. The real
>>> question
>>> is, will their still body to play against. Will the engine still be
>>> something
>>> competitive to base your mods on? By the time it will probably take one
>>> could
>>> just as well start writing an own engine ...
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Matthias
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Luiz Gustavo Angelo
>> T: +55 11 75452244
>>
>>
>>
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