[ut3] Possible reason for UT3 Client delay

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Haven't said much on this list, but......

Different lists for server and client, I'm totally with you, this is a linux
server mailing list.

And the only crap I get here is tons of mailing about the "linux client for
ut3".
If I didn't need this list for server updates I'd be out in 1 second, cause
that linux client threads are the same every time, lots of complaints which
should have been on the Epic forums:
http://utforums.epicgames.com/forumdisplay.php?s=7258edc3e2297b88cc4822156ea
f6530&f=20 
That is the place to be for complaining about the game and what is released
or not.

Ryan just does what he is getting paid for, and if Epic didn't pay him he
won't do anything, just like with cod4 and the 1.5 ranking bugs, first the
money and  the order then his machinery is firing up.

So please if you have complaints that there is not released what is
promised, go to the epic board and start bashing over there.

Minte van Dalen 

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Grasmück [mailto:tgrasmueck at web.de] 
Sent: vrijdag 9 mei 2008 1:57
To: ut3 at icculus.org
Subject: Re: [ut3] Possible reason for UT3 Client delay

In fact, I agree in one point of your argumentation: I would appreciate some
more updates by Ryan. Anyway he made an announcement, he will inform us,
when there are relevant news about the project.

The rest is just enerving. There is a mailinglist archive, where everyone
can read Ryan's statement: News will be published, when there are news.
Clear statement. And, in my case, all I wanna hear.

I subscribed here, because I don't wanna read enerving boards with much more
irrelevant posts and also much more kids, that are unable to look into the
archive and find Ryan's statement. I subscribed primarily for getting first
handed news on the server, the client is secondarily for me, because, on one
hand, UT3 hyped less I thought before the release, on the other hand, UTx
is, the past told us about this, on release date very buggy. Then we get
patch 1 and 2 and much time later there will be patch 3, which results in a
nearly unbuggy client version. Patch 3 is not out until now, so I'll wait
without rumoring.

I don't need another board, where everybody posts 20 posts a day, therefore
I use mailinglists. I expect to only get relevant informations here. And
perhaps development here is now at a point, where I say, we need different
lists for the server and the client. In order to get only the information
(and hopefully no flames) hosters oder admins need.

Just my 2 cents
Thomas

David L. Willson schrieb:
> Back to my points:
>  - If this is a ut3-server list, rename it.
>  - If this is an aptly named ut3 list, put news and announcements and
updates on it.
> 
> I think most would agree that it's past time for an update.  A list 
> with no information, no updates, no news, nothing but desperate 
> players, is ... useless?  rude?  poor customer service?  Who's getting the
slap here?  Ryan?  He's getting paid, K?  Epic?
> Nope, they made their money.  We're getting the slap, and it doesn't 
> take much looking to figure out who's giving it.
> 
> Tact doesn't work, either.  I've been on this useless list for enough 
> months to see all sorts of tactics tried.  All I've seen is * like you 
> trying to stop gamers like me from asking where the * game is.  Oh, 
> and rumor-mongering, which has been ever-so-productive, and the stupid 
> video of whats-his-head from Epic saying that the Linux client is kind 
> of a pet project and if it gets done...  "If" is a long way from the
release-day promises that the Linux client "would" get done, isn't it?
> 
> Let me be ~more~ clear.  When people ask me questions, I answer quickly
and accurately.
>  I expect the same courtesy.
> 
> Where's the Linux client?  What's the hold-up?  Will it be done this 
> year?  How much time is being logged on it?  Is there any way we can 
> help?  Where do we go for regular status updates?
> 
> I buy Linux games, not Windows games.  I use Linux.  Not Windows, not Mac,
not console.
>  Just Linux.  Peace, otherwise, and unsubscribe me whenever ready, 
> because I'm not going to get more subtle.  This is crap.
> 
> On Fri, 09 May 2008 09:14:39 +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote
>> You have a list which Ryan, the developer/porter has graciously provided.
>>
>> Insulting him, in a medium HE graciously provides is... rude maybe?
>> ungrateful? tactless?
>>
>> take your pick.
>>
>> Dean
>>
>> David L. Willson wrote:
>>> Feeds what?  I don't run a server, so what have I gotten?  Game?  No.
Updates?  No. 
>>> Information?  No.
>>>
>>> The hand doesn't feed.  Eat it.
>>>
>>> On Fri, 09 May 2008 08:44:43 +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote
>>>> hmm, nice work. biting the hand that feeds.
>>>>
>>>> Dean
>>>>
>>>> Philipp Schmieder wrote:
>>>>>> This mailing list doesn't belong to Epic. It's Ryan's baby.
>>>>> Well, then he seems to be a bad father.
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