[ut3] linux client

[Max Grender-Jones]

All good points. But I think it would save unnecessary questions if 
there was an autoresponse sent to all new users on the list to summarise 
progress so far. Something along the lines of:

Welcome new list member

- Linux server has been released (available here http://blah/), and 
various patches have since been released (available here).
- The client version (Linux and Mac) *is* being worked on, but isn't 
ready yet, sorry. Furthermore, for various reasons, I can't tell you 
when it will be ready. All I can tell you is that when it's ready, 
you'll know first. Please don't ask for any more updates, I can't give them.

We've all heard that by now, but given how hard list members find it to 
find archives, we shouldn't count on anyone reading them.

That said, whilst I completely understand that Ryan can't say when it 
will be done, it's a real shame he can't say how far he's got so far. I 
reckon many on this list would understand (and would keep their 
appetites whetted) if we received updates along the lines of

'Hi guys - still a long way to go, but the graphics system is now 
working. Buggy as hell, but it's only a matter of time.'

'Hi guys - graphics mostly there now, now working on porting the network 
code'.

Can't imagine that would be commercially sensitive (though given how 
much Gamespy was slagged off on the back of a rumour, perhaps I'm 
wrong). Then again, perhaps all the issues *are* now legal/commercial, 
in which case, no wonder the poor guy's been gagged. If that is the 
case, must suck to see all our whining messages, Ryan - hope you can 
understand that we're all just itching to get our hands on it - we're 
all very grateful for everything you do!

M





David L. Willson wrote:
> "If Ryan says the client is being worked on, it is being worked on until he says
> otherwise."
> 
> Really?  Has Ryan said, "I'll come and tell you when other demands on my time become too
> much, and work on this project takes a back seat?"  Has he said, "I'll let you know if
> Epic entertains a purchase offer that comes with the stipulation that nothing is
> developed or released for the Linux OS?"  Not that I know of.  As far as I know, he
> said, "I'm working on it."  I've worked on a lot of things that didn't get done and
> shipped.  Ryan can be legally or economically bound to say nothing.  Additionally, if I
> know anything about developers and software companies, when the demand stops, the supply
> will quietly move away.  Periodic statements, by a responsible and trustworthy person
> (Ryan, in this case) that the product is coming, are needed.  Periodic questions, by an
> interested purchasing group, (us, in this case) are also needed.
> 
> There's another thing that I experienced and want to point out.  I took a lot of comfort
> from the other voices asking for a game I want.  As a Linux gamer, I realize that I'm
> not going to get to play everything, because there aren't enough Linux gamers to make
> making games for Linux a wildly profitable endeavor (see Loki Entertainment).  Software
> companies that make platform games, and Windows games, port to Linux for their own
> reasons, and enough money from us to make it feasible.  I am relieved and happy to see
> that there are enough of us to make the UT3 port feasible for Epic, because I get to
> play my game.
> 
> Eventually...
> 
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