[ut3] linux client

[David L. Willson]

I disagree.

Ryan is a hard worker that has produced good work in the past and is producing good work
today.  Periodic statements from him that he is working on the client are good and
trustworthy, and needed.  I have the experience of 10 years in FOSS and 15 years in
software, and I know how software projects die.  They don't die loudly, unless they die
in court, not in legal haranguing, in actual court.  The rest of the time, the great
majority, they die quietly when everyone stops caring, the builder(s) and the buyer(s).

The second to last Ryan/Icculus update was something about a legal threat, and then
there was a rumor about a Microsoft threat.  Ryan's simple statement that he is still
working on the client was needed, and much more valuable than the response of an
auto-responder.

--David

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:55:46 -0500, Kevin Guillaume wrote
> You bring up the poignant truth that we're getting no more actual information 
> here, than you or anybody could provide with an autoresponder.
> 
> I agree.
> 
> -Kev
> 
> On February 28, 2008 06:56:51 am Jordi Bosveld wrote:
> 
> > Your point about the client being late is valid, and I guess I speak for
> > most of us when I say I would really like a Linux client just about now,
> > but seriously, what answer other than "it is being worked on" do you
> > expect to get? It has been stated many times, but I will say it once
> > more: Ryan will not give any estimates because they are hard to give and
> > tend to disappoint people. I ask again, what answer other than "it is
> > being worked on" do you expect to get? Exactly. Then what is the point
> > in asking? To put pressure on Epic? Wrong place. To put pressure on
> > Ryan? If it is going to have an effect at all, it will not be in your
> > favour. To annoy us? This one seems the most plausible so far :P
> >
> > It seems some people want to hear "it is begin worked on" every week or
> > so. You know what, send your update requests to me from now on, I will
> > gladly send you a (auto)reply telling you it is being worked on, that
> > way you will hear what you want to hear and the list will be freed of
> > this not-so-useful chatter ;)
> >
> > If all I/we wanted to hear was Ryans messages, sure. But explain to me
> > technically how to filter the weekly update request and the thread that
> > follows, while letting useful discussion pass through. If Ryan says the
> > client is being worked on, it is being worked on until he says
> > otherwise. I really don't think it's our fault you need to be told the
> > same thing over and over and over again.
> >
> > Seriously, both your frustration and hunger for information are
> > understandable, but these inquiries are very much useless (even
> > annoying), so please stop asking, because all you are going to hear
> > is..........
> 
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