[ut3] Ask you self...

[Sir Brizz]

If that is the case, they are failing miserably. Plus, I'm sure that 
those few who actively watch this mailing list couldn't compete with the 
thousand or so people already whining on the official forums :)

Brizz

Andrea Chiumenti wrote:
> I think that this mailing list is made up just for keeping our mouth
> shut on the ut forum. So that a potential customer that browse the
> forum sees only the good things
>
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Sir Brizz <sir.brizz at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> I'm sure it's pretty likely that none of those people belong to this mailing
>> list.
>>
>>  Brizz
>>
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>>
>>  Tom Rivers wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> On 4/7/2008 5:15 PM, Sir Brizz wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> With that mentality, most of the upcoming games over the next few years
>>>>         
>> are never coming. :p
>>     
>>>> Brizz
>>>>
>>>> Raphael Brunner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Have you ever asked yourself why ryan or someone else don't answer to
>>>>>           
>> questions around the linux-client?
>>     
>>>>> If it's true, that I working on something, I can give a statement
>>>>>           
>> about
>>     
>>>>> it. If it's not true, then I better say nothing (if I'm unfaithful or
>>>>> someone has it prohibited to speak about!)
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>> I think the point he was trying to make was that it doesn't take more than
>>>       
>> a minute to send out an update on whatever progress has been made.  As a
>> programmer, I not only need to give a deadline for when I plan to deliver a
>> product but I also must routinely give status reports to those people who
>> have commissioned me to do the work.  Since good lines of communication are
>> the best way to keep everyone informed, I have to agree that it would make
>> everyone feel much better if there were some kind of regularly scheduled
>> update on the status of any given project.  Even if the message says the
>> same thing as last time, at least everyone would know that there is someone
>> actively doing something.
>>     
>>> For some perspective, I've dealt with Ryan since the days of the original
>>>       
>> UT.  To say he is an exceptional programmer is certainly an understatement.
>> It has also been my experience that Ryan doesn't engage in regularly
>> scheduled update postings to his mailing lists.  I never asked him why
>> because he has always come through in the end and delivered outstanding
>> products.
>>     
>>> Having said that, I don't think it is unreasonable to have someone in
>>>       
>> authority, be it Ryan or one of the folks who has commissioned him to work
>> on this project, simply give us an estimate of when things should be
>> finished.  If that isn't possible, then a time when we can next expect to
>> hear an update would be the next best thing.
>>     
>>> As others have correctly pointed out in the past, the work will be done
>>>       
>> when it is done.  I certainly agree that is the case.  The question is
>> really whether the practice of not keeping customers updated on the progress
>> of an important release makes good business sense.  In my experience,
>> keeping customers informed is the only way to keep them happy.  There's an
>> old saying: "If you don't take care of your customers, then someone else
>> will."  If the folks in charge want to keep their customers happy, then I
>> think it makes a lot of sense for someone to spend the few moments it takes
>> to put out a post to this list every couple of weeks to let everyone know
>> the project is still on track.  A tentative due date would also be much
>> appreciated.
>>     
>>> To do anything less certainly makes one think why the minuscule amount of
>>>       
>> effort to keep us in the loop has not yet been made.
>>     
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
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