[ut2003io] AMD Systems

[Peter Kemmerer]

Glad that worked for you, Bryce.  Been there, done that here (as well as
one of my other BU admins), no luck at all.  We probably put in a total
of 40 hours of tweaking between us, often times working together on the
phone to help make sure we tried everything possible.  I'm hopeful that
the switch to an Intel system will get me squared away with UT 2003 /
Linux.  If not, I'll have the Windows portion of my dual-boot to use.

Pete
-BeyondUnreal

On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 20:56, Bryce Kennedy wrote:
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> I had a lot of those problems with UT2003, freezes etc. Low FPS I have Athlon 
> 1700 and 2200 ti4200 card, KT333 chipset,pc2100 and now pc 2700 ram and after 
> all sorts of different drivers and setting changes it ended up being a simple 
> change in my bios to fix the problem. I don't want to reboot right now but I 
> think I turned off agp fast write and everything else except 4x agp and 
> UT2003 plays great!
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday 20 November 2002 05:41 pm, Peter Kemmerer wrote:
> > I've had the same problem, and have discussed it with Ryan, Daniel, and
> > a very nice fellow from nVidia offlist for awhile.  I'm running 2.4.19
> > on an AMD 1800XP system, motherboard uses the VIA KT333 chipset,
> > VisionTek Ti4600, have tried AGPGART and nvidia drivers, various apeture
> > sizes, mem=nopentium enabled, yada, yada, yada.  Here are the main
> > points of our discussion and examination:
> >
> > 1)  With AGP on, any settings, UT 2003 always crashes the box hard,
> > eventually.  Sometimes I get a game in, sometimes not.
> >
> > 2)  Quake 3, UT and Tribes 2, as well as all other OpenGL games I tried,
> > like TuxRacer et al, work fine with AGP on, both AGPGART and nvidia.
> >
> > 3)  With AGP disabled, UT 2003 runs without crashing, but as you might
> > expect, it runs so slowly in most levels that it's unplayable.
> >
> > 4)  I installed Windows on this box to see if UT 2003 would run.  Ran in
> > both D3D and OpenGL without crashing.  I subsequently uninstalled
> > Windows, bemem=nopentiumcause I can't tolerate Windows.  ;-)
> >
> > 5)  nVidia states unequivically that their QA has tested UT 2003 on AMD
> > systems using my chipset under Linux and all is well.  They were not
> > able to pin a cause down for the lockups, but suggested it might be the
> > specific VIA chipset revision I have.
> >
> > So, running BeyondUnreal and not being able to play UT 2003 at all, I've
> > decided to migrate to a P4-2.4B, an Intel Desktop motherboard and
> > reinstall my OS.  I'll probably dual-boot this time, as Unreal 2 is not
> > planning a Linux release.  My feeling is that UT 2003 is stressing the
> > AGP bus to the point where it's exposing a weakness in how the Linux
> > kernel handles either the AGP bus on a VIA KT333 chipset and/or the
> > processor itself.  I believe that because I can run UT 2003 just fine if
> > I install Windows on this very same box, and because many of you have
> > been able to run UT 2003 just fine on some Linux boxes.
> >
> > I should say that, at the risk of sounding like I'm kissing some
> > Epic/nVidia butt, everyone involved gave it the old 'college try', and
> > it was much appreciated.  I'm fairly discouraged, though, because my
> > system is 'nothing special', yet I'm unable to run UT 2003 under Linux.
> > I am very hopeful that Ryan, Daniel, nVidia and people like Alan Cox and
> > Linus himself get a dialog going to help improve gaming under Linux.
> > Everyone on this list is Linux gamer, and I don't have to tell you how
> > important getting Linux gaming up to snuff is
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Pete
> > -BeyondUnreal
> > http://www.beyondunreal.com
> >
> > On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 20:22, Gerardo Pirla Diaz wrote:
> > > Ian Hastie wrote:
> > > > Gerardo Pirla Diaz wrote:
> > > >> I've got an Atholon 1600+. I'm using a RH-8.0 updated kernel
> > > >> 2.4.18-10 with a NVIDIA TI4200 with the drivers version 1.0-3123, and
> > > >> UT2k3 Kirks everytime.
> > > >
> > > > Not wishing to sound too think, but "Kirks"?!!!!!!!
> > > >
> > > > Ian.
> > >
> > > Hi Ian,
> > >
> > > I don't speak/write english very good, maybe "crashes" it's a better word
> > > ?? I'm Spanish and i think "crashes" is like "kirks" !!
> 
> - -- 
> Bryce Kennedy
> Former Microsoft POW
> Freed By Linux 
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