[referencer] 3 questions

[sebastian guttenberg]

Hi John
Thanks a lot for the quick response!

> If you send me the bibtex file in question (or even better file it as a
> bug) I can take a look.

I intend to do so (filing it as a bug), but I am still waiting for the registration email...
That's why I also attached it to this Email


> If you send me the pdf file in question (or even better file it as a
> bug) I can take a look.

Same for this. I attached the pdf-file, but I will try to file it as a bug as well, as soon as I am registered.


> I'm not sure what interfaces SPIRES provides for applications.  Do you
> know?  In the future, I'd like to have a general plugin system to
> support various backends.  At present, only crossref OpenURL and
> arxiv.org bibtex are there.

Sorry, I don't know neither. 
What do you mean by arxiv.org bibtex? I didn't know that arxiv provides bibtex entries. For the article that I mentioned (the one of the pdf-file), 
arxiv only links to SPIRES or CiteBase for citations and references. (see http://www.arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0112160v1 )


> The list view is somewhat rough around the edges.  I wrote "ListView
> users are people too" in the TODO so nobody can accuse me of not caring.

;-) Isn't the List View the main power of referencer?? (apart from the
tags and many other things of course...)


> Referencer uses whichever application is associated with pdfs in the
> gnome environment.  You can change that in gnome by right clicking on a
> pdf file and opening properties->open with, I don't know about other
> desktop environments.  Actually I must admit this bugs me too, since
> sometimes I want to open something with acrobat instead of evince.  I am
> pining for an "Open with..." option.

Ah, thanks for the hint!!! I thought that I did not have evince as pdf-standard, but I did of course...
Open with would really be nice for the future!

Ok, so far and thanks a lot for taking your time!
Sebastian


On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 20:16 +0000, John Spray wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 21:55 +0200, sebastian guttenberg wrote:
> > 1. Importing my BibTex file does not import the eprint-entry. Therefore
> > there is no Web-Link available after the import. Adding this by hand for
> > all the BibTex-entries would be a lot of work...
> > Also any other 'extra field' is not imported, although referencer
> > clearly has the possibility to add extra fields...
> 
> If you send me the bibtex file in question (or even better file it as a
> bug) I can take a look.
> 
> > 2. For the adding of a local pdf-file, this behaviour is completely
> > different: there the extra field eprint is correctly added, but instead
> > I get no information on the journal, where the article is published.
> 
> If you send me the pdf file in question (or even better file it as a
> bug) I can take a look.
> 
> > 3. This point is probably related to point 2. As I am working in high
> > energy physics, I usually use the information provided from SPIRES HEP
> > ( http://www.slac.stanford.edu/spires/ ) to generate my BibTeX files.
> > This also assigns certain reference Labels to the entries which are not
> > consistent with the ones that are provided by crossref.org . 
> > Is there a way to change the source from crossref.org to SPIRES? In
> > particular I have no idea how to find the DOI's of my documents...
> > (relation to point 2: I think, the information on crossref.org about the
> > papers is simply incomplete, while on SPIRES it includes the journal)
> 
> I'm not sure what interfaces SPIRES provides for applications.  Do you
> know?  In the future, I'd like to have a general plugin system to
> support various backends.  At present, only crossref OpenURL and
> arxiv.org bibtex are there.
> 
> 
> > 4. This seems to me like a bug:
> > Strange, however, that I didn't find it in the reports, although it
> > seems so obvious:
> > In the 'list-view', the column for the title is extremely large and
> > there is no way to make it smaller. Attempts to do so sometimes result
> > in an even bigger column.
> > Also, there are only four columns visible, and the one for the e.g. the
> > journal (if it exists?) is not visible and thus one cannot sort with
> > respect to the journal.
> 
> The list view is somewhat rough around the edges.  I wrote "ListView
> users are people too" in the TODO so nobody can accuse me of not caring.
> 
> > 5. Last but not least. Is there a possibility to change the pdf-viewer
> > from evince to a different one? I would like to use some editing tools
> > which are not present in evince.
> 
> Referencer uses whichever application is associated with pdfs in the
> gnome environment.  You can change that in gnome by right clicking on a
> pdf file and opening properties->open with, I don't know about other
> desktop environments.  Actually I must admit this bugs me too, since
> sometimes I want to open something with acrobat instead of evince.  I am
> pining for an "Open with..." option.
> 
> > Sorry for so many complaints. I was simply very excited when I
> > discovered the program, but then I figured out that I can make only very
> > limited use of it, if the above problems are not fixed.
> > Thanks for any answers! Sebastian
> 
> Feedback always welcome.
> 
> John
> 
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