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<div>You are correct. <strong>If you abide by the GPL terms, </strong>is the part I was talking about. I was under the assumption that abiding by the GPL meant that you had to offer all of your code modifications to the public for free in exchange for using the engine for free. As an example, Urban Terror only offers the base Ioquake3 code in SVN to the public. But that SVN code doesn't contain any of thier code modifications. They don't release their modified code back to the public nor does any of the other mods. NSCO and a few others, as listed here, <a href="http://synapse.vgfort.com/quake3.php">http://synapse.vgfort.com/quake3.php</a> are the only ones to my knowlegde that had actually followed the GPL.</div>
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<div>Maybe things have changed. But as I mentioned, I was told that any Closed Source game / Mod distributed on Q3 source code required some type of licensing.</div>
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<div><strong>EG from your reply:</strong></div>
<div>"For teams that don't want to operate under the GPL, we're now offering a<br>"non-GPL" QUAKE engine license for a flat fee of $10,000 per title [3]<br>with no backend royalty whatsoever.</div>
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<div>I thought that meant a $10,000 license for Closed Source Versions like Urban Terror ECT. Their standalone version of thier game IS closed source.</div>
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<div>When did this change?</div>
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<div>Chris<br><br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:35 PM, <<a href="mailto:monk@rq3.com">monk@rq3.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div class="Ih2E3d">> told that any game being offered as a whole built on top of<br>> the q3 engine or any deriv still required a license. It's also stated<br>> here,<br>> <a href="http://www.idsoftware.com/business/technology/techlicense.php" target="_blank">http://www.idsoftware.com/business/technology/techlicense.php</a><br>
<br></div>Actually, read the page a bit more closely. It's under the QUAKE section<br>that id explains how you can use the GPL'ed engines they release. The Q3<br>section (and Q2) doesn't really cover it so I can see how you'd get the<br>
wrong impression by only looking at the Q3 section(s). Some relevent<br>quotes so you don't have to hunt too much:<br><br><br>"If, for example, you have an amateur team that is long on talent but<br>short on cash and needs a proven engine to develop a game that can be<br>
distributed commercially, it doesn't get much better than 'Free.' If you<br>abide by the GPL terms, then the QUAKE technology is truly just a gift<br>from id. And, unlike some 'bargain' licensors, we don't impose ANY<br>
restrictions on your distribution channel: retail, Internet, shareware,<br>magazine coverdisk – whatever YOU choose."<br><br>"For teams that don't want to operate under the GPL, we're now offering a<br>"non-GPL" QUAKE engine license for a flat fee of $10,000 per title [3]<br>
with no backend royalty whatsoever. This means that you can grab the<br>source and tools from our FTP site and sign a separate agreement with us,<br>allowing you to keep your source modifications confidential (if you<br>like)."<br>
<br><br>Replace "QUAKE" with "QUAKE 3 ARENA" and it's the same deal.<br><br>Monk.<br>
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