[quake3] Re: non-cheatable game

[Chris Bunting]

Hello,

> Urban Terror is a closed source (SDK license) mod for quake3, it does not 
> have anti-cheat in it.

Well, then that explains why Punkbuster and BattleEye are both listed as 
being supported.

If battleeye is closed source though, How does it work with ioTerror?  a 
.dll?

Chris

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Erik Kloppenburg" <kloppenburg at snt.utwente.nl>
To: <quake3 at icculus.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [quake3] Re: non-cheatable game


> Urban Terror is a closed source (SDK license) mod for quake3, it does not 
> have anti-cheat in it.
>
> ioUrbanTerror is a opensource client (source is available as mentioned in 
> the ioUrbanTerror readme and installer), based on ioq3. It can use 
> BattlEye anti-cheat, which is closed sourced. BE does not pretend to be 
> 100% effective. The maker knows it can never be 100% safe. It's just to 
> stop most noobs from easily cheating.
>
> Chris Bunting wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> There are 2 Quake 3 related games that I know about that are based on 
>> ioquake3.
>>
>> http://www.urbanterror.net/news.php Urban Terror has anti-cheating 
>> (BattleEye) incorporated into it and it's based on ioquake3..
>>
>> How exactly is this not doable?
>>
>> Games like Urban Terror from what I understand, must release the source 
>> code as per the GPL from ID Software but there is no source available on 
>> their site so I'm guessing UT paid the $10,000 for the private license to 
>> offer this free game?
>>
>> Chris
>>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>>   From: mister fork To: quake3 at icculus.org Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 
>> 5:53 PM
>>   Subject: Re: [quake3] Re: non-cheatable game
>>
>>
>>     looks interesting, sounds interesting, and tastes interesting. but it 
>> is not doable
>>
>>   1) read GPL ( it doesnt allow closed source sauce )
>>   2) it is easy to fool cheat protection even if it is closed source ( 
>> see bankbuster )
>>   3) ioquake3 is open source
>>
>>   (1) & (2) & (3) implies you need to stop