[quake3] Re: Auto Downloads

Dirk noisyb at gmx.net
Tue Jul 24 11:17:25 EDT 2007


mister fork wrote:
> this is not openarena discussion. openarena can enable it in their
> distribution

i used open arena as an example

> and for the users that dont read help files : it is their problem. but they
> really should
> they must read http://ioquake3.org/?page=help after downloading ioquake3
> binary from the ioquake3.org
> 
> anyways I dont think auto downloads will be on by default in future
> releases
> of ioquake3. Zakk said the last word. Go bug whatever mod you want it to be
> enabled. This is not the right place imho

fine... but there won't be much of a future without auto downloads
anyways...


> On 7/24/07, Dirk <noisyb at gmx.net> wrote:
>>
>> mister fork wrote:
>> > if people are good enough to find ioquake3,
>>
>> but 08/15 users are also people(!)... and they still use dual boot to
>> play quake3 because they failed to put ioquake3 and the content of their
>> original together... let alone download mods or maps...
>>
>> i recommend you try Open Arena.. go to the two or three excessive plus
>> servers there and spectate how many people fail to get stuff
>> downloaded...
>>
>> > they will also read some help
>> > files.
>>
>> 08/15 users don't read help files... they rather click on buttons until
>> something works or they leave it...
>>
>> >( Maybe someone can add the info to enable auto downloads to
>> > http://ioquake3.org/?page=help ) and mod devs can do what they want
>>
>> yeah right... the url could be shown in the client with a remark to
>> catch pen and paper instead of a small dialog that asks "Should this be
>> downloaded?" ... :)
>>
>> > On 7/23/07, rlaurie at binarycult.com <rlaurie at binarycult.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well, I understand Dirk's point from a mod developer's point of view.
>> >> It's a hassle to propagate even small paks. Many users are ignorant
>> >> and many don't know how to turn on auto-downloading or even know what
>> >> it means to so. Furthermore, some Q3A-literate users still may wish to
>> >> keep autodl off for other reasons.
>> >>
>> >> What if there was functionality that prompted the user if he wanted to
>> >> enable one-time downloading from a server connect, if his autodl is
>> >> disabled? I don't think this would stray from the original concept.
>> >> Just further facilitate user-friendliness with downloads. It would
>> >> curb illiterate user frustration and help literate and cautious users
>> >> to be more selective with what is downloaded.
>> >>
>> >> Quoting Zachary Slater <zakk at timedoctor.org>:
>> >>
>> >> > Dirk wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> and PLEASE!!!!... make allowdownloads enabled by default (in the
>> >> >> client)... I have seen too many people connect and disconnect...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > The goal of IOQUAKE3 is not to drastically change the behavior of
>> >> > things like this. Authors like leilei of openarena can change
>> whatever
>> >> > they want.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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