From icculus at clutteredmind.org  Sun Oct  3 21:29:18 2004
From: icculus at clutteredmind.org (Ryan C. Gordon)
Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:29:18 -0400
Subject: last call...
Message-ID: <1096853358.17868.5.camel@localhost>


If there are bugs you haven't reported for either postal1 or postal2, do
so now or forever hold your peace. The last fixes I intend to make are:

"Crash while downloading new map"...
  https://bugzilla.icculus.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1716

"Neither Mac nor Icculus listed in Credits =)"
  https://bugzilla.icculus.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1859

Also, if you want your name listed in the credits as a beta tester and
haven't spoken up yet, please do so now, or you won't be listed (but
will still have our eternal thanks!).

If nothing serious hasn't come up, we're likely to go gold on Monday.

--ryan.





From zack at macpulse.com  Sun Oct  3 21:57:33 2004
From: zack at macpulse.com (Zack Brock)
Date: Sun,  3 Oct 2004 18:57:33 -0700
Subject: [postal2mac] last call...
Message-ID: <20041004015733.8640.qmail@webmail02.mesa1.secureserver.net>

Sort of OT, but are you going to distribute Postal 1 with Postal 2? Or
will it be a seperate item for purchase.. or do you just not know yet?

Thanks!

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [postal2mac] last call...
> From: "Ryan C. Gordon" <icculus at clutteredmind.org>
> Date: Sun, October 03, 2004 9:29 pm
> To: postal2mac at icculus.org
> 
> If there are bugs you haven't reported for either postal1 or postal2, do
> so now or forever hold your peace. The last fixes I intend to make are:
> 
> "Crash while downloading new map"...
>   https://bugzilla.icculus.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1716
> 
> "Neither Mac nor Icculus listed in Credits =)"
>   https://bugzilla.icculus.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1859
> 
> Also, if you want your name listed in the credits as a beta tester and
> haven't spoken up yet, please do so now, or you won't be listed (but
> will still have our eternal thanks!).
> 
> If nothing serious hasn't come up, we're likely to go gold on Monday.
> 
> --ryan.



From uyeyama at hawaii.edu  Mon Oct  4 08:11:23 2004
From: uyeyama at hawaii.edu (Robert Uyeyama)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 02:11:23 -1000
Subject: [postal2mac] last call...
In-Reply-To: <1096853358.17868.5.camel@localhost>
References: <1096853358.17868.5.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <825C28F7-15FE-11D9-BDD9-000D93B68D44@hawaii.edu>

Please list me as: Rob "Santaduck" Uyeyama

Also, I'll post some bugs to the list rather than Bugzilla since 'gold 
monday' is very soon...
________________
My setup: iMac G5 2G 1.8 17"

1) Text dialog in the while setting keyboard controls reads to use 
"Right Mouse" click to clear.. of course there is no right mouse.  I 
tried the equivalent control-click but that just results in a "CTRL".
2) Some characters cannot be set on fire, for example the 
Running-w/Scissors guy who comes up if you're too slow in the first map 
who says "vince wants to see you" can't be set on fire (e.g. if you're 
near the fireplace, set your self on fire, and bump into him).  I 
assume they also can't be damaged, etc.
3)  Spin bug: (both online & multiplayer).  Set a key to "LOOK DOWN".  
Hold that key down, and move the mouse up and to the side at the same 
time.  If you do it right (it's pretty easy), you'll initiate a rapid 
spinning mode-- you will rapidly  spin in circles, even though you're 
no longer moving your mouse--  you'll spin forever.  I haven't done 
console: "behindview 1" to see if I'm really spinning yet.

Wow I'm impressed at all the fixes, looking through Bugzilla. Great job!

--Robert (Santaduck)

On Oct 3, 2004, at 3:29 PM, Ryan C. Gordon wrote:

>
> If there are bugs you haven't reported for either postal1 or postal2, 
> do
> so now or forever hold your peace. The last fixes I intend to make are:
>
> "Crash while downloading new map"...
>   https://bugzilla.icculus.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1716
>
> "Neither Mac nor Icculus listed in Credits =)"
>   https://bugzilla.icculus.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1859
>
> Also, if you want your name listed in the credits as a beta tester and
> haven't spoken up yet, please do so now, or you won't be listed (but
> will still have our eternal thanks!).
>
> If nothing serious hasn't come up, we're likely to go gold on Monday.
>
> --ryan.
>
>
>



From webman2k at optonline.net  Mon Oct  4 08:30:23 2004
From: webman2k at optonline.net (Mark)
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 08:30:23 -0400
Subject: [postal2mac] last call...
In-Reply-To: <1096853358.17868.5.camel@localhost>
References: <1096853358.17868.5.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <29FEE2D8-1601-11D9-98AE-0003937986F6@optonline.net>

In postal 1 - there's still no setting, or ini entry, that will make 
windowed mode stick.  Not a bug per se, but it would be a valuable 
feature I think :)

On Oct 3, 2004, at 9:29 PM, Ryan C. Gordon wrote:

>
> If there are bugs you haven't reported for either postal1 or postal2, 
> do
> so now or forever hold your peace. The last fixes I intend to make are:
>
> "Crash while downloading new map"...
>   https://bugzilla.icculus.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1716
>
> "Neither Mac nor Icculus listed in Credits =)"
>   https://bugzilla.icculus.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1859
>
> Also, if you want your name listed in the credits as a beta tester and
> haven't spoken up yet, please do so now, or you won't be listed (but
> will still have our eternal thanks!).
>
> If nothing serious hasn't come up, we're likely to go gold on Monday.
>
> --ryan.
>
>
>



From icculus at clutteredmind.org  Mon Oct  4 11:20:45 2004
From: icculus at clutteredmind.org (Ryan C. Gordon)
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 11:20:45 -0400
Subject: [postal2mac] last call...
In-Reply-To: <825C28F7-15FE-11D9-BDD9-000D93B68D44@hawaii.edu>
References: <1096853358.17868.5.camel@localhost>
	 <825C28F7-15FE-11D9-BDD9-000D93B68D44@hawaii.edu>
Message-ID: <1096903245.17872.34.camel@localhost>


> 1) Text dialog in the while setting keyboard controls reads to use 
> "Right Mouse" click to clear.. of course there is no right mouse.  I 
> tried the equivalent control-click but that just results in a "CTRL".

No fix planned; it's hardcoded in the datafiles.

> 2) Some characters cannot be set on fire, for example the 
> Running-w/Scissors guy who comes up if you're too slow in the first map 
> who says "vince wants to see you" can't be set on fire (e.g. if you're 
> near the fireplace, set your self on fire, and bump into him).  I 
> assume they also can't be damaged, etc.

Running with Scissors employees are invincible. This was by design.

> 3)  Spin bug: (both online & multiplayer).  Set a key to "LOOK DOWN".  
> Hold that key down, and move the mouse up and to the side at the same 
> time.  If you do it right (it's pretty easy), you'll initiate a rapid 
> spinning mode-- you will rapidly  spin in circles, even though you're 
> no longer moving your mouse--  you'll spin forever.  I haven't done 
> console: "behindview 1" to see if I'm really spinning yet.

"Don't do that."  :)

--ryan.





From hotblack at sietchtabr.plus.com  Mon Oct  4 13:57:36 2004
From: hotblack at sietchtabr.plus.com (hotblack)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 18:57:36 +0100
Subject: [postal2mac] last call...
In-Reply-To: <1096853358.17868.5.camel@localhost>
References: <1096853358.17868.5.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <DFFBD09A-162E-11D9-93B4-003065D5A2C8@sietchtabr.plus.com>


On 4 Oct 2004, at 02:29, Ryan C. Gordon wrote:

>
> If there are bugs you haven't reported for either postal1 or postal2, 
> do
> so now or forever hold your peace. The last fixes I intend to make are:

<snip>

> If nothing serious hasn't come up, we're likely to go gold on Monday.
>
> --ryan.

Good work Ryan (and all the testers). I haven't noticed any major 
problems with the latest build of Postal 2 and previous bugs appear to 
have been fixed - Ryan, I assumed you didn't need specific verification 
of fixes added to bugzilla.
Hope this goes gold and gets out there soon!

Cheers
Ben



From hotblack at sietchtabr.plus.com  Mon Oct  4 16:01:12 2004
From: hotblack at sietchtabr.plus.com (hotblack)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 21:01:12 +0100
Subject: [postal2mac] last call...
In-Reply-To: <1096903245.17872.34.camel@localhost>
References: <1096853358.17868.5.camel@localhost><825C28F7-15FE-11D9-BDD9-000D93B68D44@hawaii.edu> <1096903245.17872.34.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <241B993C-1640-11D9-8121-003065D5A2C8@sietchtabr.plus.com>


On 4 Oct 2004, at 16:20, Ryan C. Gordon wrote:

>> 2) Some characters cannot be set on fire
<snip>
> Running with Scissors employees are invincible. This was by design.

so that's not a bug... it's a feature

>> 3)  Spin bug: (both online & multiplayer).
<snip>
> "Don't do that."  :)

This must be a feature to... derived from rule #42 of software 
development: "Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a 
feature." ;)

Does this mean it's GM now then Ryan? (Just idle curiosity.. if so.. 
have a beer on us)

Cheers,
Ben



From jay.harris at mac.com  Mon Oct  4 16:45:14 2004
From: jay.harris at mac.com (Jason Harris)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 21:45:14 +0100
Subject: [postal2mac] last call...
In-Reply-To: <241B993C-1640-11D9-8121-003065D5A2C8@sietchtabr.plus.com>
References: <1096853358.17868.5.camel@localhost> <825C28F7-15FE-11D9-BDD9-000D93B68D44@hawaii.edu> <1096903245.17872.34.camel@localhost> <241B993C-1640-11D9-8121-003065D5A2C8@sietchtabr.plus.com>
Message-ID: <4AED5FEC-1646-11D9-9C6E-000393CA0066@mac.com>

Looking good now Ryan, as usual, amazing work :) I've just had another 
good crack at the game and couldn't find any show stoppers, although I 
suspect we've probably missed small things, but I'm sure the public 
will let you know in some way or another (they always do). Get ready 
for that patch :P

Anyway, I'm looking forward to future projects with you and the other 
beta testers, and I'd like to say a special thanks to Rob (Santaduck) 
for Macologist and introducing me to some very cool people ;)

--Jason



From uyeyama at hawaii.edu  Tue Oct  5 01:43:27 2004
From: uyeyama at hawaii.edu (Robert Uyeyama)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 19:43:27 -1000
Subject: [postal2mac] last call...
In-Reply-To: <4AED5FEC-1646-11D9-9C6E-000393CA0066@mac.com>
References: <1096853358.17868.5.camel@localhost> <825C28F7-15FE-11D9-BDD9-000D93B68D44@hawaii.edu> <1096903245.17872.34.camel@localhost> <241B993C-1640-11D9-8121-003065D5A2C8@sietchtabr.plus.com> <4AED5FEC-1646-11D9-9C6E-000393CA0066@mac.com>
Message-ID: <7AC93302-1691-11D9-9BF5-000D93B68D44@hawaii.edu>

awwww thanks Jason....

Well cheers to the whole team, and to the Linux team as well, of whom I 
heard great things in Ryan's ..plan.  I'm sure most of us would be 
willing for more testing as necessary, for future Postal patches, or 
even UT2k4 or the next gen Unreal 3.

Congratulations to Ryan for a speedy and complete fix, it's awesome to 
look at the Bugzilla query and see *everything* addressed-- once he 
started on it, it seemed to go very fast.

[plug]
Finally echoing what Jason wrote, I would again like to invite everyone 
to our new Mac Gaming problem-solving site http://www.macologist.org . 
We were just mentioned in MacAddict, and we help mac gamers, mostly for 
mods for UT2k4 & BF1942, but other issues too.  There's a lot of talent 
here in the Postal 2 team, so come on over, or idle in our irc at 
irc.gamesurge.net #macologist.
[/plug]


Share the Pain...

-Rob "Santaduck"

On Oct 4, 2004, at 10:45 AM, Jason Harris wrote:

> Looking good now Ryan, as usual, amazing work :) I've just had another 
> good crack at the game and couldn't find any show stoppers, although I 
> suspect we've probably missed small things, but I'm sure the public 
> will let you know in some way or another (they always do). Get ready 
> for that patch :P
>
> Anyway, I'm looking forward to future projects with you and the other 
> beta testers, and I'd like to say a special thanks to Rob (Santaduck) 
> for Macologist and introducing me to some very cool people ;)
>
> --Jason
>



From zack at macpulse.com  Tue Oct  5 17:07:41 2004
From: zack at macpulse.com (Zack Brock)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 17:07:41 -0400
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [postal2mac] last call...
In-Reply-To: <7AC93302-1691-11D9-9BF5-000D93B68D44@hawaii.edu>
References: <1096853358.17868.5.camel@localhost> <825C28F7-15FE-11D9-BDD9-000D93B68D44@hawaii.edu> <1096903245.17872.34.camel@localhost> <241B993C-1640-11D9-8121-003065D5A2C8@sietchtabr.plus.com> <4AED5FEC-1646-11D9-9C6E-000393CA0066@mac.com> <7AC93302-1691-11D9-9BF5-000D93B68D44@hawaii.edu>
Message-ID: <9831E8A4-1712-11D9-9181-000A95718388@macpulse.com>

On Oct 5, 2004, at 1:43 AM, Robert Uyeyama wrote:
> ...I'm sure most of us would be willing for more testing as necessary, 
> for future Postal patches, or even UT2k4 or the next gen Unreal 3.

I second that! I certainly will remain available at this email for any 
future testing of patches, etc as necessary.

Thanks!

-Zack Brock



From icculus at clutteredmind.org  Wed Oct  6 05:10:53 2004
From: icculus at clutteredmind.org (Ryan C. Gordon)
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 05:10:53 -0400
Subject: [postal2mac] last call...
In-Reply-To: <241B993C-1640-11D9-8121-003065D5A2C8@sietchtabr.plus.com>
References: <1096853358.17868.5.camel@localhost>
	 <825C28F7-15FE-11D9-BDD9-000D93B68D44@hawaii.edu>
	 <1096903245.17872.34.camel@localhost>
	 <241B993C-1640-11D9-8121-003065D5A2C8@sietchtabr.plus.com>
Message-ID: <1097053853.17868.133.camel@localhost>


> Does this mean it's GM now then Ryan? (Just idle curiosity.. if so.. 
> have a beer on us)

Technically, not yet, since I need to update the final disc image with a
README and such, but it's done for all intents and purposes.

I've been chopping up the postal1 data to try and get both the games
onto a 700mb CD, but it's no good (I'm at like 705 or so by best
attempts, publishers get nervous if you're over like 675 megs).

Running With Scissors will probably have to keep them seperate (two
discs, one box? Download option? I have no idea). Postal1/osx is
definitely going to be available in some form, but I'm not really sure
what that form will be, exactly.

--ryan.





From icculus at clutteredmind.org  Sun Oct 10 06:27:04 2004
From: icculus at clutteredmind.org (Ryan C. Gordon)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 06:27:04 -0400
Subject: Gone Gold.
Message-ID: <41690E78.9030505@clutteredmind.org>


For those that want it, here's the Gold Master of Postal 2 for MacOSX:

      http://0day.icculus.org/private/postal2beta/postal2-mac-final.dmg
      (username postal2mac, password p33p33Hz)

656232526 bytes
MD5 (postal2-mac-final.dmg) = 2af4c9cc2be502166031a2850cc9948c

This is a non-expiring build. Unless someone finds a really embarrassing
bug within the next day or so, this will be the exact disc image I 
submit to Running With Scissors.

Feel free to keep the download as an uncrippled version...might as well
get a free copy of the game for your hard work. Don't give it to your
friends, though.  :)

Last minute feedback is very appreciated. I want to know if a 
last-minute, serious problem popped up (i.e. - installer crashes on 
startup, etc).

Postal 1 hasn't been finalized...The game is ready, but I need to
package it up. I'll make that available to you when I get it done, too.

--ryan.




From jay.harris at mac.com  Sun Oct 10 09:54:46 2004
From: jay.harris at mac.com (Jason Harris)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 14:54:46 +0100
Subject: [postal2mac] Gone Gold.
In-Reply-To: <41690E78.9030505@clutteredmind.org>
References: <41690E78.9030505@clutteredmind.org>
Message-ID: <F1B5A01F-1AC3-11D9-99BB-000393CA0066@mac.com>

Many thanks Ryan, it's greatly appreciated.  Always nice to have 
something for free ;)

Best regards

Jason

On 10 Oct 2004, at 11:27, Ryan C. Gordon wrote:

>
> For those that want it, here's the Gold Master of Postal 2 for MacOSX:
>
>      http://0day.icculus.org/private/postal2beta/postal2-mac-final.dmg
>      (username postal2mac, password p33p33Hz)
>
> 656232526 bytes
> MD5 (postal2-mac-final.dmg) = 2af4c9cc2be502166031a2850cc9948c
>
> This is a non-expiring build. Unless someone finds a really 
> embarrassing
> bug within the next day or so, this will be the exact disc image I 
> submit to Running With Scissors.
>
> Feel free to keep the download as an uncrippled version...might as well
> get a free copy of the game for your hard work. Don't give it to your
> friends, though.  :)
>
> Last minute feedback is very appreciated. I want to know if a 
> last-minute, serious problem popped up (i.e. - installer crashes on 
> startup, etc).
>
> Postal 1 hasn't been finalized...The game is ready, but I need to
> package it up. I'll make that available to you when I get it done, too.
>
> --ryan.
>
>



From jesus.demeyer at pandora.be  Sun Oct 10 10:57:13 2004
From: jesus.demeyer at pandora.be (Jesus De Meyer)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 16:57:13 +0200
Subject: [postal2mac] Gone Gold.
In-Reply-To: <41690E78.9030505@clutteredmind.org>
References: <41690E78.9030505@clutteredmind.org>
Message-ID: <AB6BD91C-1ACC-11D9-95DD-000A959631D4@pandora.be>

Super mega cool.

I already had a very good weekend and now this. Ryan if there's 
anything else I can do, you can count on me. And I wouldn't be suprised 
if that counted for the whole beta testing team aswell.

Thanks a lot!!



From emmanuel at ludomac.com  Sun Oct 10 13:04:02 2004
From: emmanuel at ludomac.com (NashacK)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 19:04:02 +0200
Subject: [postal2mac] Gone Gold.
In-Reply-To: <AB6BD91C-1ACC-11D9-95DD-000A959631D4@pandora.be>
References: <41690E78.9030505@clutteredmind.org> <AB6BD91C-1ACC-11D9-95DD-000A959631D4@pandora.be>
Message-ID: <62CCF36A-1ADE-11D9-932A-000A95A7960E@ludomac.com>

Nice :)
This was a great experience, and I'm sure you can count on all of us 
for future testing or anything else we could do for the mac gaming..

Thanks a lot :)

.//nashck

Le 10 oct. 04, ? 16:57, Jesus De Meyer a ?crit :

> Super mega cool.
>
> I already had a very good weekend and now this. Ryan if there's 
> anything else I can do, you can count on me. And I wouldn't be 
> suprised if that counted for the whole beta testing team aswell.
>
> Thanks a lot!!



From zack at macpulse.com  Sun Oct 10 14:42:11 2004
From: zack at macpulse.com (Zack Brock)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 14:42:11 -0400
Subject: [postal2mac] Gone Gold.
In-Reply-To: <41690E78.9030505@clutteredmind.org>
References: <41690E78.9030505@clutteredmind.org>
Message-ID: <18B44826-1AEC-11D9-9753-000A95718388@macpulse.com>

Thanks Ryan!

I'm downloading and will test out the installer, etc at first chance 
and report any last minute crashes if they happen.

Oh, and make sure you keep a copy for yourself for all _your_ hard 
work! ;)

-Zack Brock

On Oct 10, 2004, at 6:27 AM, Ryan C. Gordon wrote:

>
> For those that want it, here's the Gold Master of Postal 2 for MacOSX:
>
>      http://0day.icculus.org/private/postal2beta/postal2-mac-final.dmg
>      (username postal2mac, password p33p33Hz)
>
> 656232526 bytes
> MD5 (postal2-mac-final.dmg) = 2af4c9cc2be502166031a2850cc9948c
>
> This is a non-expiring build. Unless someone finds a really 
> embarrassing
> bug within the next day or so, this will be the exact disc image I 
> submit to Running With Scissors.
>
> Feel free to keep the download as an uncrippled version...might as well
> get a free copy of the game for your hard work. Don't give it to your
> friends, though.  :)
>
> Last minute feedback is very appreciated. I want to know if a 
> last-minute, serious problem popped up (i.e. - installer crashes on 
> startup, etc).
>
> Postal 1 hasn't been finalized...The game is ready, but I need to
> package it up. I'll make that available to you when I get it done, too.
>
> --ryan.
>
>
>



From Daniel at Macmechanic.co.uk  Sun Oct 10 15:58:41 2004
From: Daniel at Macmechanic.co.uk (Daniel Laishley)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 20:58:41 +0100
Subject: [postal2mac] Gone Gold.
In-Reply-To: <41690E78.9030505@clutteredmind.org>
References: <41690E78.9030505@clutteredmind.org>
Message-ID: <C8849A5A-1AF6-11D9-B466-000A95AF27EC@Macmechanic.co.uk>

Very much appreciated!
Thanks

Daniel


On 10 Oct 2004, at 11:27, Ryan C. Gordon wrote:

>
> For those that want it, here's the Gold Master of Postal 2 for MacOSX:
>
>      http://0day.icculus.org/private/postal2beta/postal2-mac-final.dmg
>      (username postal2mac, password p33p33Hz)
>
> 656232526 bytes
> MD5 (postal2-mac-final.dmg) = 2af4c9cc2be502166031a2850cc9948c
>
> This is a non-expiring build. Unless someone finds a really 
> embarrassing
> bug within the next day or so, this will be the exact disc image I 
> submit to Running With Scissors.
>
> Feel free to keep the download as an uncrippled version...might as well
> get a free copy of the game for your hard work. Don't give it to your
> friends, though.  :)
>
> Last minute feedback is very appreciated. I want to know if a 
> last-minute, serious problem popped up (i.e. - installer crashes on 
> startup, etc).
>
> Postal 1 hasn't been finalized...The game is ready, but I need to
> package it up. I'll make that available to you when I get it done, too.
>
> --ryan.
>
>
>



From icculus at clutteredmind.org  Sun Oct 10 18:50:02 2004
From: icculus at clutteredmind.org (Ryan C. Gordon)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 18:50:02 -0400
Subject: [postal2mac] Gone Gold.
In-Reply-To: <AB6BD91C-1ACC-11D9-95DD-000A959631D4@pandora.be>
References: <41690E78.9030505@clutteredmind.org>
	 <AB6BD91C-1ACC-11D9-95DD-000A959631D4@pandora.be>
Message-ID: <1097448602.15053.8.camel@localhost>


> I already had a very good weekend and now this. Ryan if there's 
> anything else I can do, you can count on me. And I wouldn't be suprised 
> if that counted for the whole beta testing team aswell.

You guys were all great, btw; I'll be pinging y'all in the future for
other betas, I'm sure.

--ryan.





From evanwms at earthlink.net  Sun Oct 10 19:02:25 2004
From: evanwms at earthlink.net (Evan Sattem)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 18:02:25 -0500
Subject: [postal2mac] Gone Gold.
In-Reply-To: <AB6BD91C-1ACC-11D9-95DD-000A959631D4@pandora.be>
Message-ID: <BD8F29B1.18E7%evanwms@earthlink.net>

Wow, thanks for the kind gesture!

-evan sattem



From aric at is-family.com  Sun Oct 10 19:33:16 2004
From: aric at is-family.com (Aric Pedersen)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 19:33:16 -0400
Subject: [postal2mac] Gone Gold.
In-Reply-To: <1097448602.15053.8.camel@localhost>
References: <41690E78.9030505@clutteredmind.org>	
 <AB6BD91C-1ACC-11D9-95DD-000A959631D4@pandora.be>
 <1097448602.15053.8.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <p06110403bd8f770df005@[192.168.1.100]>

>
>You guys were all great, btw; I'll be pinging y'all in the future for
>other betas, I'm sure.
>
>--ryan.

Thanks, Ryan... you've ported some really cool stuff, so I'm sure we 
all look forward to the next project.

Regards,

Aric


From uyeyama at hawaii.edu  Sun Oct 10 22:11:51 2004
From: uyeyama at hawaii.edu (Robert Uyeyama)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 16:11:51 -1000
Subject: [postal2mac] Gone Gold.
In-Reply-To: <41690E78.9030505@clutteredmind.org>
References: <41690E78.9030505@clutteredmind.org>
Message-ID: <EA5638BE-1B2A-11D9-8722-000D93B68D44@hawaii.edu>

Congratulations!  I think the beta team is almost as proud as you are
XD

Thank you for the non-expiring version, it's very appreciated.

Robert



On Oct 10, 2004, at 12:27 AM, Ryan C. Gordon wrote:

>
> For those that want it, here's the Gold Master of Postal 2 for MacOSX:
>
>      http://0day.icculus.org/private/postal2beta/postal2-mac-final.dmg
>      (username postal2mac, password p33p33Hz)
>
> 656232526 bytes
> MD5 (postal2-mac-final.dmg) = 2af4c9cc2be502166031a2850cc9948c
>
> This is a non-expiring build. Unless someone finds a really 
> embarrassing
> bug within the next day or so, this will be the exact disc image I 
> submit to Running With Scissors.
>
> Feel free to keep the download as an uncrippled version...might as well
> get a free copy of the game for your hard work. Don't give it to your
> friends, though.  :)
>
> Last minute feedback is very appreciated. I want to know if a 
> last-minute, serious problem popped up (i.e. - installer crashes on 
> startup, etc).
>
> Postal 1 hasn't been finalized...The game is ready, but I need to
> package it up. I'll make that available to you when I get it done, too.
>
> --ryan.
>
>



From hotblack at sietchtabr.plus.com  Sun Oct 10 23:10:14 2004
From: hotblack at sietchtabr.plus.com (hotblack at sietchtabr.plus.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 04:10:14 +0100
Subject: [postal2mac] Gone Gold.
Message-ID: <mailman.0.1236839524.31058.postal2mac@icculus.org>

On Sun Oct 10 23:50 , 'Ryan C. Gordon' <icculus at clutteredmind.org> sent:

>You guys were all great, btw; I'll be pinging y'all in the future for
>other betas, I'm sure.
>

SYN/ACK
Cheers Ryan, and everyone else :)
Proof if any was ever really needed that crude, politically-incorrect, violent games do not turn people into animals.
We're animals to start with!!! ;)
I hope RWS can get publishing/distribution etc etc sorted out soon and get the Linux and Mac builds out there.
Back to sweet insomnia.
Cheers

Ben


From bkoponen at mac.com  Sun Oct 10 23:22:13 2004
From: bkoponen at mac.com (Brian Koponen)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 23:22:13 -0400
Subject: [postal2mac] Gone Gold.
In-Reply-To: <41690E78.9030505@clutteredmind.org>
References: <41690E78.9030505@clutteredmind.org>
Message-ID: <BED8B7AE-1B34-11D9-AC8B-000A9591E2E6@mac.com>

Many thanks Ryan.

And I much appreciate the well wishing in the Readme. Here's hoping!

-Brian

On Oct 10, 2004, at 6:27 AM, Ryan C. Gordon wrote:

>
> For those that want it, here's the Gold Master of Postal 2 for MacOSX:
>
>      http://0day.icculus.org/private/postal2beta/postal2-mac-final.dmg
>      (username postal2mac, password p33p33Hz)
>
> 656232526 bytes
> MD5 (postal2-mac-final.dmg) = 2af4c9cc2be502166031a2850cc9948c
>
> This is a non-expiring build. Unless someone finds a really 
> embarrassing
> bug within the next day or so, this will be the exact disc image I 
> submit to Running With Scissors.
>
> Feel free to keep the download as an uncrippled version...might as well
> get a free copy of the game for your hard work. Don't give it to your
> friends, though.  :)
>
> Last minute feedback is very appreciated. I want to know if a 
> last-minute, serious problem popped up (i.e. - installer crashes on 
> startup, etc).
>
> Postal 1 hasn't been finalized...The game is ready, but I need to
> package it up. I'll make that available to you when I get it done, too.
>
> --ryan.
>
>



From Guillaume  Mon Oct 11 03:05:14 2004
From: Guillaume (Guillaume)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:05:14 +0200
Subject: [postal2mac] Gone Gold.
In-Reply-To: <41690E78.9030505@clutteredmind.org>
References: <41690E78.9030505@clutteredmind.org>
Message-ID: <E69C88C1-1B53-11D9-81DA-000393AE8B14@yahoo.fr>

Many thanks Ryan !

In order to celebrate the future release of Mac Postal 2, i organised a 
MacPostal2FragTest at home for a full night. I was helped by four 
friends (My neighbour was not invited ... hehehehehe) ! They are  PC 
users ... therefore they didn't try to get the game (bouuuhhhh, it is 
bad to steal video games !).

A little report :
* Installer ran fine on all my Macs (5 flavours, with some OSX.3.x)
* Solo game completed without new bug found on all computers
* Multiplayer worked fine (dedicated server included), and no new bugs 
found
* I drank too much cola and now I am sick ...

A great night, for a great cynical-politicaly incorrect-gore-fun game !

Share the pain  !!

Guillaume

On 10 oct. 04, at 12:27, Ryan C. Gordon wrote:

>
> For those that want it, here's the Gold Master of Postal 2 for MacOSX:
>
>      http://0day.icculus.org/private/postal2beta/postal2-mac-final.dmg
>      (username postal2mac, password p33p33Hz)
>
> 656232526 bytes
> MD5 (postal2-mac-final.dmg) = 2af4c9cc2be502166031a2850cc9948c
>
> This is a non-expiring build. Unless someone finds a really 
> embarrassing
> bug within the next day or so, this will be the exact disc image I 
> submit to Running With Scissors.
>
> Feel free to keep the download as an uncrippled version...might as well
> get a free copy of the game for your hard work. Don't give it to your
> friends, though.  :)
>
> Last minute feedback is very appreciated. I want to know if a 
> last-minute, serious problem popped up (i.e. - installer crashes on 
> startup, etc).
>
> Postal 1 hasn't been finalized...The game is ready, but I need to
> package it up. I'll make that available to you when I get it done, too.
>
> --ryan.
>
>
>



From emmanuel at ludomac.com  Mon Oct 11 11:24:22 2004
From: emmanuel at ludomac.com (NashacK)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 17:24:22 +0200
Subject: [postal2mac] Gone Gold.
In-Reply-To: <E69C88C1-1B53-11D9-81DA-000393AE8B14@yahoo.fr>
References: <41690E78.9030505@clutteredmind.org> <E69C88C1-1B53-11D9-81DA-000393AE8B14@yahoo.fr>
Message-ID: <A0D2FB2C-1B99-11D9-91D4-000A95A7960E@ludomac.com>

My last Postal 2 feedback : Installed the final game without a hick, 
and it runs well and smoothly..
I'm an happy gamer now ..

thanks again :)

.//nashack





>>
>> For those that want it, here's the Gold Master of Postal 2 for MacOSX:
>>
>>      http://0day.icculus.org/private/postal2beta/postal2-mac-final.dmg
>>      (username postal2mac, password p33p33Hz)
>>
>> 656232526 bytes
>> MD5 (postal2-mac-final.dmg) = 2af4c9cc2be502166031a2850cc9948c
>>
>> This is a non-expiring build. Unless someone finds a really 
>> embarrassing
>> bug within the next day or so, this will be the exact disc image I 
>> submit to Running With Scissors.
>>
>> Feel free to keep the download as an uncrippled version...might as 
>> well
>> get a free copy of the game for your hard work. Don't give it to your
>> friends, though.  :)
>>
>> Last minute feedback is very appreciated. I want to know if a 
>> last-minute, serious problem popped up (i.e. - installer crashes on 
>> startup, etc).
>>
>> Postal 1 hasn't been finalized...The game is ready, but I need to
>> package it up. I'll make that available to you when I get it done, 
>> too.
>>
>> --ryan.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
.//nashack	



From romard at apple.com  Mon Oct 11 12:21:32 2004
From: romard at apple.com (Damian Romard)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:21:32 -0700
Subject: [postal2mac] Gone Gold.
In-Reply-To: <41690E78.9030505@clutteredmind.org>
References: <41690E78.9030505@clutteredmind.org>
Message-ID: <9D2CD834-1BA1-11D9-A841-000393D9CC6A@apple.com>

Thanks Ryan.  It was great to work on this one.
D.


On Oct 10, 2004, at 3:27 AM, Ryan C. Gordon wrote:

>
> For those that want it, here's the Gold Master of Postal 2 for MacOSX:
>
>      http://0day.icculus.org/private/postal2beta/postal2-mac-final.dmg
>      (username postal2mac, password p33p33Hz)
>
> 656232526 bytes
> MD5 (postal2-mac-final.dmg) = 2af4c9cc2be502166031a2850cc9948c
>
> This is a non-expiring build. Unless someone finds a really 
> embarrassing
> bug within the next day or so, this will be the exact disc image I 
> submit to Running With Scissors.
>
> Feel free to keep the download as an uncrippled version...might as well
> get a free copy of the game for your hard work. Don't give it to your
> friends, though.  :)
>
> Last minute feedback is very appreciated. I want to know if a 
> last-minute, serious problem popped up (i.e. - installer crashes on 
> startup, etc).
>
> Postal 1 hasn't been finalized...The game is ready, but I need to
> package it up. I'll make that available to you when I get it done, too.
>
> --ryan.
>
>



From webman2k at optonline.net  Mon Oct 11 14:33:49 2004
From: webman2k at optonline.net (Mark)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:33:49 -0400
Subject: [postal2mac] Gone Gold.
In-Reply-To: <9D2CD834-1BA1-11D9-A841-000393D9CC6A@apple.com>
References: <41690E78.9030505@clutteredmind.org>
 <9D2CD834-1BA1-11D9-A841-000393D9CC6A@apple.com>
Message-ID: <1810219A-1BB4-11D9-B7C5-0003937986F6@optonline.net>

Thanks Ryan - it was a pleasure to work on it - I'm looking forward to 
the final Postal 1 build!

-Mark


On Oct 10, 2004, at 3:27 AM, Ryan C. Gordon wrote:

>
> For those that want it, here's the Gold Master of Postal 2 for MacOSX:
>
>      http://0day.icculus.org/private/postal2beta/postal2-mac-final.dmg
>      (username postal2mac, password p33p33Hz)
>
> 656232526 bytes
> MD5 (postal2-mac-final.dmg) = 2af4c9cc2be502166031a2850cc9948c
>
> This is a non-expiring build. Unless someone finds a really 
> embarrassing
> bug within the next day or so, this will be the exact disc image I 
> submit to Running With Scissors.
>
> Feel free to keep the download as an uncrippled version...might as well
> get a free copy of the game for your hard work. Don't give it to your
> friends, though.  :)
>
> Last minute feedback is very appreciated. I want to know if a 
> last-minute, serious problem popped up (i.e. - installer crashes on 
> startup, etc).
>
> Postal 1 hasn't been finalized...The game is ready, but I need to
> package it up. I'll make that available to you when I get it done, too.
>
> --ryan.
>
>



From icculus at clutteredmind.org  Wed Oct 27 04:21:12 2004
From: icculus at clutteredmind.org (Ryan C. Gordon)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 04:21:12 -0400
Subject: Interviews...
Message-ID: <417F5A78.6050604@clutteredmind.org>


...unlike big publishers, Running With Scissors basically runs their 
marketing off a Discover card, which means they rely very heavily on 
gaming and fan sites to get the word around. Which means that they love 
doing interviews.

For those on the list that run Mac news sites, please drop me a line 
off-list if you want to do an interview with me or Vince Desi about 
Postal for Mac. Please note that Vince tends to be, uh, politically 
incorrect, but you should probably expect that from the game's content. 
    It does tend to generate traffic, though.

--ryan.




From icculus at clutteredmind.org  Wed Oct 27 04:22:20 2004
From: icculus at clutteredmind.org (Ryan C. Gordon)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 04:22:20 -0400
Subject: Postal 1 is Gold.
Message-ID: <417F5ABC.3030409@clutteredmind.org>


Final postal 1 for MacOSX:

    http://icculus.org:8081/postal1-macosx.tar.bz2
      (username einie, password meenie)

Fixed a few last minute things over what you had before: (mouse cursor
showing up during palette fades, level title screens not waiting for a
keypress after loading is complete, datafiles are finalized).

It looks like RWS is going to do Postal 1 as a download-only thing,
which is why there's no installer in that package...for downloads, it's
nice to just have it pull down via Safari, automatically unpack and
leave the game icon on the desktop, which can be moved elsewhere and
uninstalled by dragging to the trash.

I don't know what the price of Postal 1 will be (or if it'll be a free
download to hype Postal 2, or if it'll be a free download if you buy
Postal 2, etc)...all of this will be made clear in the coming days, I
assume.

The above file is the exact thing I gave to RWS. There's no expiration
on it. Do not distribute it to your friends or enemies.  :)  I'll be
disabling that download in a few days, so grab it while you can!

Again, thanks for all the hard work and great feedback! I'm going to
leave this mailing list here in case new testing opportunities (postal
or otherwise) pop up.

--ryan.





From webman2k at optonline.net  Wed Oct 27 07:45:10 2004
From: webman2k at optonline.net (Mark)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:45:10 -0400
Subject: [postal2mac] Postal 1 is Gold.
In-Reply-To: <417F5ABC.3030409@clutteredmind.org>
References: <417F5ABC.3030409@clutteredmind.org>
Message-ID: <A7DCB420-280D-11D9-B5E6-0003937986F6@optonline.net>

Thanks Ryan, much appreciated!

On Oct 27, 2004, at 4:22 AM, Ryan C. Gordon wrote:

>
> Final postal 1 for MacOSX:
>
>    http://icculus.org:8081/postal1-macosx.tar.bz2
>      (username einie, password meenie)
>
> Fixed a few last minute things over what you had before: (mouse cursor
> showing up during palette fades, level title screens not waiting for a
> keypress after loading is complete, datafiles are finalized).
>
> It looks like RWS is going to do Postal 1 as a download-only thing,
> which is why there's no installer in that package...for downloads, it's
> nice to just have it pull down via Safari, automatically unpack and
> leave the game icon on the desktop, which can be moved elsewhere and
> uninstalled by dragging to the trash.
>
> I don't know what the price of Postal 1 will be (or if it'll be a free
> download to hype Postal 2, or if it'll be a free download if you buy
> Postal 2, etc)...all of this will be made clear in the coming days, I
> assume.
>
> The above file is the exact thing I gave to RWS. There's no expiration
> on it. Do not distribute it to your friends or enemies.  :)  I'll be
> disabling that download in a few days, so grab it while you can!
>
> Again, thanks for all the hard work and great feedback! I'm going to
> leave this mailing list here in case new testing opportunities (postal
> or otherwise) pop up.
>
> --ryan.
>
>
>



From evanwms at earthlink.net  Wed Oct 27 07:48:35 2004
From: evanwms at earthlink.net (Evan Sattem)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:48:35 -0500
Subject: [postal2mac] Postal 1 is Gold.
In-Reply-To: <A7DCB420-280D-11D9-B5E6-0003937986F6@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <BDA4F543.19A6%evanwms@earthlink.net>

Wow the generosity never ends!  Thanks Ryan!



From zack at macpulse.com  Wed Oct 27 13:34:05 2004
From: zack at macpulse.com (Zack Brock)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:34:05 -0700
Subject: [postal2mac] Postal 1 is Gold.
Message-ID: <20041027173405.25989.qmail@webmail04.mesa1.secureserver.net>

Suite! This rocks! Thanks Ryan!

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [postal2mac] Postal 1 is Gold.
> From: "Ryan C. Gordon" <icculus at clutteredmind.org>
> Date: Wed, October 27, 2004 4:22 am
> To: postal2mac at icculus.org
> 
> Final postal 1 for MacOSX:
> 
>     http://icculus.org:8081/postal1-macosx.tar.bz2
>       (username einie, password meenie)
> 
> Fixed a few last minute things over what you had before: (mouse cursor
> showing up during palette fades, level title screens not waiting for a
> keypress after loading is complete, datafiles are finalized).
> 
> It looks like RWS is going to do Postal 1 as a download-only thing,
> which is why there's no installer in that package...for downloads, it's
> nice to just have it pull down via Safari, automatically unpack and
> leave the game icon on the desktop, which can be moved elsewhere and
> uninstalled by dragging to the trash.
> 
> I don't know what the price of Postal 1 will be (or if it'll be a free
> download to hype Postal 2, or if it'll be a free download if you buy
> Postal 2, etc)...all of this will be made clear in the coming days, I
> assume.
> 
> The above file is the exact thing I gave to RWS. There's no expiration
> on it. Do not distribute it to your friends or enemies.  :)  I'll be
> disabling that download in a few days, so grab it while you can!
> 
> Again, thanks for all the hard work and great feedback! I'm going to
> leave this mailing list here in case new testing opportunities (postal
> or otherwise) pop up.
> 
> --ryan.



From emmanuel at ludomac.com  Wed Oct 27 15:19:28 2004
From: emmanuel at ludomac.com (NashacK)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:19:28 +0200
Subject: [postal2mac] Postal 1 is Gold.
In-Reply-To: <20041027173405.25989.qmail@webmail04.mesa1.secureserver.net>
References: <20041027173405.25989.qmail@webmail04.mesa1.secureserver.net>
Message-ID: <1F03C73D-284D-11D9-ABEB-000A95A7960E@ludomac.com>

Thanks Ryan :)



Le 27 oct. 04, ? 19:34, Zack Brock a ?crit :

> Suite! This rocks! Thanks Ryan!
>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: [postal2mac] Postal 1 is Gold.
>> From: "Ryan C. Gordon" <icculus at clutteredmind.org>
>> Date: Wed, October 27, 2004 4:22 am
>> To: postal2mac at icculus.org
>>
>> Final postal 1 for MacOSX:
>>
>>     http://icculus.org:8081/postal1-macosx.tar.bz2
>>       (username einie, password meenie)
>>
>> Fixed a few last minute things over what you had before: (mouse cursor
>> showing up during palette fades, level title screens not waiting for a
>> keypress after loading is complete, datafiles are finalized).
>>
>> It looks like RWS is going to do Postal 1 as a download-only thing,
>> which is why there's no installer in that package...for downloads, 
>> it's
>> nice to just have it pull down via Safari, automatically unpack and
>> leave the game icon on the desktop, which can be moved elsewhere and
>> uninstalled by dragging to the trash.
>>
>> I don't know what the price of Postal 1 will be (or if it'll be a free
>> download to hype Postal 2, or if it'll be a free download if you buy
>> Postal 2, etc)...all of this will be made clear in the coming days, I
>> assume.
>>
>> The above file is the exact thing I gave to RWS. There's no expiration
>> on it. Do not distribute it to your friends or enemies.  :)  I'll be
>> disabling that download in a few days, so grab it while you can!
>>
>> Again, thanks for all the hard work and great feedback! I'm going to
>> leave this mailing list here in case new testing opportunities (postal
>> or otherwise) pop up.
>>
>> --ryan.
>
>
.//nashack



From jay.harris at mac.com  Wed Oct 27 16:52:07 2004
From: jay.harris at mac.com (Jason Harris)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:52:07 +0100
Subject: [postal2mac] Postal 1 is Gold.
In-Reply-To: <1F03C73D-284D-11D9-ABEB-000A95A7960E@ludomac.com>
References: <20041027173405.25989.qmail@webmail04.mesa1.secureserver.net> <1F03C73D-284D-11D9-ABEB-000A95A7960E@ludomac.com>
Message-ID: <10962283-285A-11D9-86F1-000393CA0066@mac.com>

Ryan, once again, many thanks :)

--Jason



From aric at is-family.com  Wed Oct 27 18:34:22 2004
From: aric at is-family.com (Aric Pedersen)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:34:22 -0400
Subject: [postal2mac] Postal 1 is Gold.
In-Reply-To: <417F5ABC.3030409@clutteredmind.org>
References: <417F5ABC.3030409@clutteredmind.org>
Message-ID: <p06110402bda5d2c26865@[192.168.1.100]>

Thanks Ryan. I still have my Postal 1 CD for the classic Mac OS. It's 
nice to be able to play on OS X now.