<div dir="ltr">There is currently a transitional period where you can run X under wayland, in which you can of course run a WM. One day most apps will be ported to wayland and everyone will run them natively with the wayland compositor as the WM. At least this is my understanding of where things are/going.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Anthony Thyssen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:a.thyssen@griffith.edu.au" target="_blank">a.thyssen@griffith.edu.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I am currently using openbox on fedora 25 ... no problems,<div>Though it switched to a XOrg server (on tty2) for my session, rather than run under Wayland (on tty1)</div><div><br></div><div>I run openbox from the 'orginal' scripted Xsession/XInitrc setup.</div><div>Which I launch by installing the package "xorg-x11-xinit-session"</div><div>That lets me select a "User Script" session from the login screen (on tty1)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I don't know the mechanics of how it does this switch, but it worked 'out-of-the-box', mostly as all my normal packages was installed.</div><div><br></div><div>I installed Fedora 25 into a new 'root' partition while running fedora 22.</div><div>As such I had all the packages I wanted installed even before I first boot the system!</div><div>This was the first time I did it this way and after some experimenting it worked great.<br>My notes on how to install (not upgrade) a new release, while running a old release is in</div><div><a href="http://www.ict.griffith.edu.au/anthony/info/usage/fedora_on_new_partition.txt" target="_blank">http://www.ict.griffith.edu.<wbr>au/anthony/info/usage/fedora_<wbr>on_new_partition.txt</a></div><div><br></div><div>WARNING: That update worked for EXT4 but I am missing something with grub for handling a XFS root partitions. If anyone know what I missed please contact me.<br><br></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 6:37 AM, Jim Rees <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rees@umich.edu" target="_blank">rees@umich.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>Ranjan Maitra wrote:<br>
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Thanks again to both Dana and Ian! This will be quite a problem for me to<br>
leave Fedora since I have spent over 13 years on it, and have been a<br>
contributor also. But I will ask on Fedora's mailing list about what the<br>
options are, since I also do not want to get tied down by an unnecessary<br>
DE.<br>
<br>
</span>I too have avoided using a DE. Every time I try one it seems to just get in<br>
the way. But the world is headed in that direction.<br>
<br>
I've had good luck with Arch. It's modular enough that you can add just<br>
Xorg, add a WM if you want, or add any of the popular DEs if you want. I<br>
suspect you can still do this with Fedora; you could last time I tried. But<br>
it's probably easier with Arch. I have even installed Ubuntu with just Xorg<br>
and Openbox, and that wasn't too hard.<br>
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