From mjiricka at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 12:41:37 2015 From: mjiricka at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?TWFydGluIEppxZlpxI1rYQ==?=) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 18:41:37 +0100 Subject: [openbox] Quake-like-console configuration: problem with ForEach action Message-ID: Hello! I installed Openbox for the first time a few days ago. I was really impressed how well a configuration process went. But in the end I had a following problem. I tried to configure a terminal window to act as something that was somewhere called quake-like-console (i.e. an "adhoc" terminal that appears after hitting some key above all windows and is available on all desktops). I have already found some solution using external bash script, but I think that following implementation would be more elegant and maybe even more practical. My idea is to start a terminal (urxvt in my case) with some special title (like "quake_console"). Then create some rules for it: no right 0 100% 40% yes all above no yes yes no no This works. Now I need a key binding that would handle hiding and displaying of the terminal. But the following snippet does not work: quake_console current 10 no no current no no And I do not understand where is a problem. I did not find any way how to debug these rules. Documentation is not very helpful (http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Actions#If). In the doc is introduces a "basic structure" of the If action, where is "query" element, but in the examples below is no such element used, which puzzles me even more. I made some simpler tests and it looks like that "title" condition is not working. Can somebody give me a hint why the second snippet does not work please? Best regards Martin Jiřička From danakj at orodu.net Fri Jan 2 15:28:20 2015 From: danakj at orodu.net (Dana Jansens) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 12:28:20 -0800 Subject: [openbox] Quake-like-console configuration: problem with ForEach action In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Martin Jiřička wrote: > Hello! > > I installed Openbox for the first time a few days ago. I was really > impressed how well a configuration process went. But in the end I had > a following problem. > > I tried to configure a terminal window to act as something that was > somewhere called quake-like-console (i.e. an "adhoc" terminal that > appears after hitting some key above all windows and is available on > all desktops). I have already found some solution using external bash > script, but I think that following implementation would be more > elegant and maybe even more practical. > > My idea is to start a terminal (urxvt in my case) with some special > title (like "quake_console"). Then create some rules for it: > > > no > > right > 0 > > > > 100% > 40% > > > yes > all > above > no > yes > yes > no > no > > > This works. > > Now I need a key binding that would handle hiding and displaying of > the terminal. But the following snippet does not work: > > > > > quake_console > > > > current > > > > 10 > no > no > > > > > > current > no > no > > > > > > > > And I do not understand where is a problem. I did not find any way how > to debug these rules. Documentation is not very helpful > (http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Actions#If). In the doc is introduces a > "basic structure" of the If action, where is "query" element, but in > the examples below is no such element used, which puzzles me even > more. > Here's the code that does the parsing. It looks for a and uses the current target window if no exists. https://github.com/danakj/openbox/blob/master/openbox/actions/if.c#L256 Sounds like the examples are wrong. > > I made some simpler tests and it looks like that "title" condition is > not working. > > Can somebody give me a hint why the second snippet does not work please? > > > Best regards > Martin Jiřička > _______________________________________________ > openbox mailing list > openbox at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danakj at orodu.net Fri Jan 2 15:34:55 2015 From: danakj at orodu.net (Dana Jansens) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 12:34:55 -0800 Subject: [openbox] Quake-like-console configuration: problem with ForEach action In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Dana Jansens wrote: > On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Martin Jiřička wrote: > >> Hello! >> >> I installed Openbox for the first time a few days ago. I was really >> impressed how well a configuration process went. But in the end I had >> a following problem. >> >> I tried to configure a terminal window to act as something that was >> somewhere called quake-like-console (i.e. an "adhoc" terminal that >> appears after hitting some key above all windows and is available on >> all desktops). I have already found some solution using external bash >> script, but I think that following implementation would be more >> elegant and maybe even more practical. >> >> My idea is to start a terminal (urxvt in my case) with some special >> title (like "quake_console"). Then create some rules for it: >> >> >> no >> >> right >> 0 >> >> >> >> 100% >> 40% >> >> >> yes >> all >> above >> no >> yes >> yes >> no >> no >> >> >> This works. >> >> Now I need a key binding that would handle hiding and displaying of >> the terminal. But the following snippet does not work: >> >> >> >> >> quake_console >> >> >> >> current >> >> >> >> 10 >> no >> no >> >> >> >> >> >> current >> no >> no >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And I do not understand where is a problem. I did not find any way how >> to debug these rules. Documentation is not very helpful >> (http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Actions#If). In the doc is introduces a >> "basic structure" of the If action, where is "query" element, but in >> the examples below is no such element used, which puzzles me even >> more. >> > > Here's the code that does the parsing. It looks for a and uses the > current target window if no exists. > https://github.com/danakj/openbox/blob/master/openbox/actions/if.c#L256 > > Sounds like the examples are wrong. > Mmmm... going to have to take that back. How it works is the node lets you define the target window which you are making those queries against. Without the query node it uses the default target, and looks for tests under the if node instead. It feels like there may be a bug here though. If you put the tests in a with target="default" then does it work? I think https://github.com/danakj/openbox/blob/master/openbox/actions/if.c#L261 should be |node->children| instead of just |node|.. > > >> >> I made some simpler tests and it looks like that "title" condition is >> not working. >> >> Can somebody give me a hint why the second snippet does not work please? >> >> >> Best regards >> Martin Jiřička >> _______________________________________________ >> openbox mailing list >> openbox at icculus.org >> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mjiricka at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 16:05:15 2015 From: mjiricka at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?TWFydGluIEppxZlpxI1rYQ==?=) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 22:05:15 +0100 Subject: [openbox] Quake-like-console configuration: problem with ForEach action In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > It feels like there may be a bug here though. If you put the tests in a > with target="default" then does it work? No, it does not. But what is definitely buggy is this code: quake_console 3 no no 4 no no This sends all windows into Desktop 3, thus the condition is always evaluated as true. Moreover I do not understand why the ForEach action would need a "target" attribute because -- as I understand it -- it should test all windows. From danakj at orodu.net Fri Jan 2 16:21:07 2015 From: danakj at orodu.net (Dana Jansens) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 13:21:07 -0800 Subject: [openbox] Quake-like-console configuration: problem with ForEach action In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Martin Jiřička wrote: > > It feels like there may be a bug here though. If you put the tests in a > > with target="default" then does it work? > > No, it does not. > > But what is definitely buggy is this code: > > > > > quake_console > > > > 3 > no > no > > > > > 4 > no > no > > > > > > This sends all windows into Desktop 3, thus the condition is always > evaluated as true. > Hm, something's definitely sketchy. Can you file a bug in the bug tracker about it so it doesn't get lost? > Moreover I do not understand why the ForEach action would need a > "target" attribute because -- as I understand it -- it should test all > windows. > It lets you act on all windows based on tests against your current focus window. > _______________________________________________ > openbox mailing list > openbox at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikachu at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 16:18:16 2015 From: mikachu at gmail.com (Mikael Magnusson) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 22:18:16 +0100 Subject: [openbox] Quake-like-console configuration: problem with ForEach action In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Martin Jiřička wrote: > Hello! > > I installed Openbox for the first time a few days ago. I was really > impressed how well a configuration process went. But in the end I had > a following problem. > > I tried to configure a terminal window to act as something that was > somewhere called quake-like-console (i.e. an "adhoc" terminal that > appears after hitting some key above all windows and is available on > all desktops). I have already found some solution using external bash > script, but I think that following implementation would be more > elegant and maybe even more practical. > > My idea is to start a terminal (urxvt in my case) with some special > title (like "quake_console"). Then create some rules for it: > > > no > > right > 0 > > > > 100% > 40% > > > yes > all > above > no > yes > yes > no > no > > > This works. > > Now I need a key binding that would handle hiding and displaying of > the terminal. But the following snippet does not work: > > > > > quake_console > > > > current > > > > 10 > no > no > > > > > > current > no > no > > > > > > > > And I do not understand where is a problem. I did not find any way how > to debug these rules. Documentation is not very helpful > (http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Actions#If). In the doc is introduces a > "basic structure" of the If action, where is "query" element, but in > the examples below is no such element used, which puzzles me even > more. > > I made some simpler tests and it looks like that "title" condition is > not working. > > Can somebody give me a hint why the second snippet does not work please? Your snippet works perfectly for me. Do you actually have a version that supports the ForEach action? It requires 3.6 which is not yet released. So the good news is the documentation is correct :). -- Mikael Magnusson From mjiricka at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 17:09:30 2015 From: mjiricka at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?TWFydGluIEppxZlpxI1rYQ==?=) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 23:09:30 +0100 Subject: [openbox] Quake-like-console configuration: problem with ForEach action In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Your snippet works perfectly for me. Do you actually have a version > that supports the ForEach action? It requires 3.6 which is not yet > released. So the good news is the documentation is correct :). Sorry, now I have noticed that you reply to my very first post, so I guess the snippet you talked about was the "ForEach" one in that first post. From mjiricka at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 17:02:00 2015 From: mjiricka at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?TWFydGluIEppxZlpxI1rYQ==?=) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 23:02:00 +0100 Subject: [openbox] Quake-like-console configuration: problem with ForEach action In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Your snippet works perfectly for me. Do you actually have a version > that supports the ForEach action? It requires 3.6 which is not yet > released. So the good news is the documentation is correct :). Oh, I have got 3.5.2, which is also available in Downloads. (But I installed it from ArchLinux official repo). Which snippet works: the first one with ForEach or the second one with If I called "buggy"? And is the ForEach loop designed to do what I intend to do with it, i.e. to find the quake terminal, no matter which window is currently focused? From danakj at orodu.net Fri Jan 2 19:01:17 2015 From: danakj at orodu.net (Dana Jansens) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 16:01:17 -0800 Subject: [openbox] Quake-like-console configuration: problem with ForEach action In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Martin Jiřička wrote: > > Your snippet works perfectly for me. Do you actually have a version > > that supports the ForEach action? It requires 3.6 which is not yet > > released. So the good news is the documentation is correct :). > > Oh, I have got 3.5.2, which is also available in Downloads. (But I > installed it from ArchLinux official repo). > Oh, doesn't exist in 3.5.2. That explains a lot. Move those back out of the tag and it'll see them again. The tag was added to extend ForEach, which also isn't in 3.5.2. > > Which snippet works: the first one with ForEach or the second one with > If I called "buggy"? > > And is the ForEach loop designed to do what I intend to do with it, > i.e. to find the quake terminal, no matter which window is currently > focused? > _______________________________________________ > openbox mailing list > openbox at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikachu at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 20:02:28 2015 From: mikachu at gmail.com (Mikael Magnusson) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 02:02:28 +0100 Subject: [openbox] Quake-like-console configuration: problem with ForEach action In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Martin Jiřička wrote: >> Your snippet works perfectly for me. Do you actually have a version >> that supports the ForEach action? It requires 3.6 which is not yet >> released. So the good news is the documentation is correct :). > > Oh, I have got 3.5.2, which is also available in Downloads. (But I > installed it from ArchLinux official repo). > > Which snippet works: the first one with ForEach or the second one with > If I called "buggy"? The snippet I quoted when I replied is the one that works for me. As Dana said the query thing is only in 3.6 as well, so 3.5.2 will just see an If action with an empty set of conditions which is presumably always true. > And is the ForEach loop designed to do what I intend to do with it, > i.e. to find the quake terminal, no matter which window is currently > focused? Yes, it worked fine, the terminal moved between the current desktop and desktop 10. ForEach is not specifically designed for this use case, but rather to be as general as possible. Eg, if you had two terminals they would both move in this way. (This is what the Stop action is somewhat for). I use it for example for moving every window 21 pixels up and 1 to the left (useful after openbox crashes, which does happen sometimes during development), resizing all gimp image windows to a specific size, etc. Feel free to try the work branch from my git repo, we're more or less ready to release an -rc from it, we've just been lazy. -- Mikael Magnusson From mjiricka at gmail.com Sat Jan 3 11:46:51 2015 From: mjiricka at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?TWFydGluIEppxZlpxI1rYQ==?=) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 17:46:51 +0100 Subject: [openbox] Quake-like-console configuration: problem with ForEach action In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It took me a while to get the 3.6 version working, because I needed to figure out how to run two openbox-es together, each in different version. Unfortunately, I had no luck. Neither of my snippets are working in the new version. There are two differences: 1) Win+w binding is now registered, because the "w" key "is eaten" by Openbox and does not appear in the terminal (in 3.5.2, "w" character is printed by the terminal). But thats all, no window is send anywhere. 2) Win+x now sends all my windows into Desktop 4, no matter I used tag or insert conditions directly below tag. From mjiricka at gmail.com Sat Jan 3 11:53:38 2015 From: mjiricka at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?TWFydGluIEppxZlpxI1rYQ==?=) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 17:53:38 +0100 Subject: [openbox] Quake-like-console configuration: problem with ForEach action In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Hm, something's definitely sketchy. Can you file a bug in the bug tracker > about it so it doesn't get lost? I still have not filled the bug report, because of 3.6 version. For me the test of If action still does not work in 3.6, but I will try to test it a little bit more later. From fred at blakemfg.com Sun Jan 4 15:18:00 2015 From: fred at blakemfg.com (Fred) Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 13:18:00 -0700 Subject: [openbox] OB application question Message-ID: <54A99FF8.8010904@blakemfg.com> Hello, When the _ minimize button is clicked on the header of an application started from an OB menu the application disappears but it is still running. How do I get it back? Best regards, Fred Boatwright From mjiricka at gmail.com Sun Jan 4 15:49:27 2015 From: mjiricka at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?TWFydGluIEppxZlpxI1rYQ==?=) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 21:49:27 +0100 Subject: [openbox] OB application question In-Reply-To: <54A99FF8.8010904@blakemfg.com> References: <54A99FF8.8010904@blakemfg.com> Message-ID: Hello, I think you mean "iconify" action. In a default config is Alt-Tab bind, that allows you to focus any window via a menu (iconified windows are shaded in the menu). If it does not work, than such bind is not in a config file and you can add it: Best Martin Jiřička From rjmorris.list at zoho.com Sun Jan 4 18:38:11 2015 From: rjmorris.list at zoho.com (Joey Morris) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:38:11 -0500 Subject: [openbox] OB application question In-Reply-To: <54A99FF8.8010904@blakemfg.com> References: <54A99FF8.8010904@blakemfg.com> Message-ID: <20150104233811.GA22919@conquistador.dnsalias.org> Fred wrote on Sun, Jan 04, 2015 at 01:18:00PM -0700: > Hello, > > When the _ minimize button is clicked on the header of an application > started from an OB menu the application disappears but it is still running. > How do I get it back? Try middle-clicking on the root window and looking for your window in the menu that appears. From fred at blakemfg.com Sun Jan 4 20:01:06 2015 From: fred at blakemfg.com (Fred) Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:01:06 -0700 Subject: [openbox] OB application question In-Reply-To: <20150104233811.GA22919@conquistador.dnsalias.org> References: <54A99FF8.8010904@blakemfg.com> <20150104233811.GA22919@conquistador.dnsalias.org> Message-ID: <54A9E252.7060302@blakemfg.com> On 01/04/2015 04:38 PM, Joey Morris wrote: > Fred wrote on Sun, Jan 04, 2015 at 01:18:00PM -0700: >> Hello, >> >> When the _ minimize button is clicked on the header of an application >> started from an OB menu the application disappears but it is still running. >> How do I get it back? > Try middle-clicking on the root window and looking for your window in > the menu that appears. > > > _______________________________________________ > openbox mailing list > openbox at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox That worked! Thanks Joey and Martin. Best regards, Fred From akorop at gmail.com Sat Jan 10 13:36:52 2015 From: akorop at gmail.com (Alexey Korop) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 20:36:52 +0200 Subject: [openbox] mikabox Message-ID: <54B17144.9040404@gmail.com> Hi, All There is "mikachu/openbox.git" beside the oficial "dana/openbox.git" repository. - Is there somewhere some text about this project? - Is it true that mikabox is a superset of the official Dana's openbox? - Are there somewhere patches for individual mikabox functions? (For example, separate patchset to the official openbox that provide edge functions) - Is it OK to discuss mikabos here? -- Yours truly Alexey From mikachu at gmail.com Sat Jan 10 14:16:50 2015 From: mikachu at gmail.com (Mikael Magnusson) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 20:16:50 +0100 Subject: [openbox] mikabox In-Reply-To: <54B17144.9040404@gmail.com> References: <54B17144.9040404@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Alexey Korop wrote: > Hi, All > > There is "mikachu/openbox.git" beside the oficial "dana/openbox.git" > repository. These repositories are equally official, we are both main developers of openbox. Sometimes (read: always) we are a bit lazy about syncing in-progress stuff between releases. > - Is there somewhere some text about this project? http://openbox.org/wiki/Openbox:UsingGit > - Is it true that mikabox is a superset of the official Dana's openbox? "mikabox" is just my branch with unofficial patches that are probably only useful for myself. The "master" branch of mikachu/openbox.git however is very official :). > - Are there somewhere patches for individual mikabox functions? (For > example, separate patchset to the official openbox that provide edge > functions) If you look in the repo, you'll see that most features are on separate branches. You can also get separate patches out of git very easily. The edges feature is also in wip/edges in my repos. > - Is it OK to discuss mikabox here? Sure, but you probably won't find anything generally useful in there. -- Mikael Magnusson From akorop at gmail.com Sat Jan 10 16:36:13 2015 From: akorop at gmail.com (Alexey Korop) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 23:36:13 +0200 Subject: [openbox] mikabox In-Reply-To: References: <54B17144.9040404@gmail.com> Message-ID: <54B19B4D.6040201@gmail.com> Mikael Magnusson пишет 10.01.2015 21:16: ??>>> > - Is there somewhere some text about this ??>>> project? MM> http://openbox.org/wiki/Openbox:UsingGit I ask about mikabox, not about git :) Is there at least a brief summary of mikabox-only features? -- Yours truly Alexey From akorop at gmail.com Mon Jan 12 15:24:38 2015 From: akorop at gmail.com (Alexey Korop) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 22:24:38 +0200 Subject: [openbox] mikabox In-Reply-To: <54B19B4D.6040201@gmail.com> References: <54B17144.9040404@gmail.com> <54B19B4D.6040201@gmail.com> Message-ID: <54B42D86.10203@gmail.com> Alexey Korop пишет 10.01.2015 23:36: AK> Is there at least a brief summary of mikabox-only features? I tried to understand how the function "edge" works, and describe it. Is the text following correct? Is it full? mikabox - edge The corners of the screen and the lines of the screen edges are the edge zones named ScreenTopLeft, ScreenTop, ScreenTopRight, ScreenRight, ScreenBottomRight, ScreenBottom, ScreenBottomLeft, ScreenLeft. Each of these zones is the context for mouse bindings. Edge context has the highest priority - edge bindings works even with full-screen applications. The mouse events that are not binded in the some zone are ignored in this zone. Example. Left mouse click in the top edge call client-list-combined-menu: client-list-combined-menu -- Yours truly Alexey From mikachu at gmail.com Mon Jan 12 16:30:44 2015 From: mikachu at gmail.com (Mikael Magnusson) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 22:30:44 +0100 Subject: [openbox] mikabox In-Reply-To: <54B42D86.10203@gmail.com> References: <54B17144.9040404@gmail.com> <54B19B4D.6040201@gmail.com> <54B42D86.10203@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Alexey Korop wrote: > Alexey Korop пишет 10.01.2015 23:36: > AK> Is there at least a brief summary of mikabox-only features? > > I tried to understand how the function "edge" works, and describe it. > Is the text following correct? Is it full? > > mikabox - edge > > The corners of the screen and the lines of the screen edges are the > edge zones named ScreenTopLeft, ScreenTop, ScreenTopRight, ScreenRight, > ScreenBottomRight, ScreenBottom, ScreenBottomLeft, ScreenLeft. > Each of these zones is the context for mouse bindings. Edge context > has the highest priority - edge bindings works even with full-screen > applications. > The mouse events that are not binded in the some zone are ignored in > this zone. > > Example. Left mouse click in the top edge call client-list-combined-menu: > > > > > client-list-combined-menu > > > Yeah, seems about right. -- Mikael Magnusson From akorop at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 10:12:41 2015 From: akorop at gmail.com (Alexey Korop) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 17:12:41 +0200 Subject: [openbox] mikabox edge mousebuilding In-Reply-To: References: <54B17144.9040404@gmail.com> <54B19B4D.6040201@gmail.com> <54B42D86.10203@gmail.com> Message-ID: <54BD1EE9.1080700@gmail.com> Mikael Magnusson пишет 12.01.2015 23:30: ??>> The corners of the screen and the lines of the screen ??>> edges are the edge zones named ScreenTopLeft, ScreenTop, ??>> ScreenTopRight, ScreenRight, ScreenBottomRight, ??>> ScreenBottom, ScreenBottomLeft, ScreenLeft. Each of ??>> these zones is the context for mouse bindings. Edge context ??>> has the highest priority - edge bindings works even with ??>> full-screen applications. The mouse events that are not ??>> binded in the some zone are ignored in this zone. MM> Yeah, seems about right. The nice function! However, this implies also some disadvantages. 1) The user can not disable the activity of selected zones. Let's say Lxpanel is located at the bottom of the screen. In this case, a mouse click on the lower screen pixels will not lead to the actions that Lxpanel user expects. This problem can be solved if only those zones will be enabled which actually mentioned in rc.xml. 2) Usually may be reasonably to define many common bindings for all edge zones (at me all bindings of the contexts "Desktop" and "Root"). This will lead to a macabre copypasting. To solve this problem, it is sufficient to introduce the ability to import the bindings from other contexts. For instance . desktop-app-menu . Where I may to send the patches? -- Yours truly Alexey From kariotay at inbox.com Sat Jan 24 10:54:07 2015 From: kariotay at inbox.com (kario tay) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 07:54:07 -0800 Subject: [openbox] Is there a way to remove the "Focus Dialog" (alt-tab)? Message-ID: <5C210FF7899.00000700kariotay@inbox.com> Hi - I realized that there's no need (in my setup) for the application-switcher dialog box that pops up when you press Alt-Tab. The only setting that I see in rc.xml governs the desktop pager. It would be great if there was something similar for the application-switching "Focus" dialog box as well. Is there a way to disable that dialog -- while keeping the keyboard shortcut's functionality and the "window focus outline" visual cue that you see when hitting Alt-Tab? Thanks for your ideas. ____________________________________________________________ FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium From graboluk at gmail.com Sat Jan 24 11:12:58 2015 From: graboluk at gmail.com (Lukasz Grabowski) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 16:12:58 +0000 Subject: [openbox] Is there a way to remove the "Focus Dialog" (alt-tab)? In-Reply-To: <5C210FF7899.00000700kariotay@inbox.com> References: <5C210FF7899.00000700kariotay@inbox.com> Message-ID: Perhaps http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Actions#NextWindow is what you need? L 2015-01-24 15:54 GMT+00:00 kario tay : > Hi - > > I realized that there's no need (in my setup) > for the application-switcher dialog box that > pops up when you press Alt-Tab. > > The only setting that I see in rc.xml governs > the desktop pager. It would be great if there > was something similar for the application-switching > "Focus" dialog box as well. > > Is there a way to disable that dialog -- while > keeping the keyboard shortcut's functionality > and the "window focus outline" visual cue that you > see when hitting Alt-Tab? > > Thanks for your ideas. > > ____________________________________________________________ > FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas on your desktop! > Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium > > > _______________________________________________ > openbox mailing list > openbox at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox From rees at umich.edu Sat Jan 24 13:50:01 2015 From: rees at umich.edu (Jim Rees) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 13:50:01 -0500 Subject: [openbox] put client-list-combined-menu in alphabetical order Message-ID: <20150124185001.GA25695@umich.edu> Here is a patch I have found useful. It puts the client list menu in alphabetical order. To finish this, you would have to make it configurable, and also do the non-combined menu. From: Jim Rees Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 13:39:18 -0500 Subject: [PATCH 6/6] put client-list-combined-menu in alphabetical order Signed-off-by: Jim Rees --- openbox/client_list_combined_menu.c | 11 ++++++++++- 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/openbox/client_list_combined_menu.c b/openbox/client_list_combined_menu.c index c26b6fa..2a3e083 100644 --- a/openbox/client_list_combined_menu.c +++ b/openbox/client_list_combined_menu.c @@ -42,6 +42,13 @@ static void self_cleanup(ObMenu *menu, gpointer data) menu_clear_entries(menu); } +static gint +compfunc(gconstpointer a, gconstpointer b) +{ + ObClient *c1 = (ObClient *) a, *c2 = (ObClient *) b; + return strcmp(c1->title, c2->title); +} + static gboolean self_update(ObMenuFrame *frame, gpointer data) { ObMenu *menu = frame->menu; @@ -55,8 +62,10 @@ static gboolean self_update(ObMenuFrame *frame, gpointer data) gboolean empty = TRUE; gboolean onlyiconic = TRUE; + it = g_list_sort(g_list_copy(focus_order), compfunc); + menu_add_separator(menu, SEPARATOR, screen_desktop_names[desktop]); - for (it = focus_order; it; it = g_list_next(it)) { + for (; it; it = g_list_next(it)) { ObClient *c = it->data; if (focus_valid_target(c, desktop, TRUE, TRUE, -- 2.2.2 From kariotay at inbox.com Sat Jan 24 15:50:43 2015 From: kariotay at inbox.com (kario tay) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 12:50:43 -0800 Subject: [openbox] Is there a way to remove the "Focus Dialog" (alt-tab)? In-Reply-To: References: <5c210ff7899.00000700kariotay@inbox.com> Message-ID: <5EB7FB12B34.00000924kariotay@inbox.com> That looks great -- One other question: does the user have to log out and log back in to see the changes, or will the changes be visible after "re-configuring" openbox in the current session? I ask because I hit "ReConfigure Openbox" on the menu and there's been no change; the menu still appears. --- P.S. A search brings up a similar thread with XML example: none none The solution appears to be: none ...applied to both "A-Tab" and "A-S-Tab" keybindings. > -----Original Message----- > From: graboluk at gmail.com > Sent: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 16:12:58 +0000 > To: openbox at icculus.org > Subject: Re: [openbox] Is there a way to remove the "Focus Dialog" > (alt-tab)? > > Perhaps > http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Actions#NextWindow > is what you need? > > L > > 2015-01-24 15:54 GMT+00:00 kario tay : >> Hi - >> >> I realized that there's no need (in my setup) >> for the application-switcher dialog box that >> pops up when you press Alt-Tab. >> >> The only setting that I see in rc.xml governs >> the desktop pager. It would be great if there >> was something similar for the application-switching >> "Focus" dialog box as well. >> >> Is there a way to disable that dialog -- while >> keeping the keyboard shortcut's functionality >> and the "window focus outline" visual cue that you >> see when hitting Alt-Tab? >> >> Thanks for your ideas. >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas on >> your desktop! >> Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> openbox mailing list >> openbox at icculus.org >> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox > _______________________________________________ > openbox mailing list > openbox at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox ____________________________________________________________ FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium From graboluk at gmail.com Sat Jan 24 16:07:26 2015 From: graboluk at gmail.com (Lukasz Grabowski) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 21:07:26 +0000 Subject: [openbox] Is there a way to remove the "Focus Dialog" (alt-tab)? In-Reply-To: <5EB7FB12B34.00000924kariotay@inbox.com> References: <5c210ff7899.00000700kariotay@inbox.com> <5EB7FB12B34.00000924kariotay@inbox.com> Message-ID: reconfigure should be enough. I use alt-tab to have switching between two windows without any dialog and alt-ctrl-tab to switch with a dialog. AFAI understand in my setup A-S-Tab does what you want. no none no none L 2015-01-24 20:50 GMT+00:00 kario tay : > That looks great -- > > One other question: does the user have to log out and > log back in to see the changes, or will the changes > be visible after "re-configuring" openbox in the > current session? > > I ask because I hit "ReConfigure Openbox" on the menu > and there's been no change; the menu still appears. > > --- > > P.S. A search brings up a similar thread with XML example: > > > > none > > > > > none > > > > The solution appears to be: > none > > ...applied to both "A-Tab" and "A-S-Tab" keybindings. > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: graboluk at gmail.com >> Sent: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 16:12:58 +0000 >> To: openbox at icculus.org >> Subject: Re: [openbox] Is there a way to remove the "Focus Dialog" >> (alt-tab)? >> >> Perhaps >> http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Actions#NextWindow >> is what you need? >> >> L >> >> 2015-01-24 15:54 GMT+00:00 kario tay : >>> Hi - >>> >>> I realized that there's no need (in my setup) >>> for the application-switcher dialog box that >>> pops up when you press Alt-Tab. >>> >>> The only setting that I see in rc.xml governs >>> the desktop pager. It would be great if there >>> was something similar for the application-switching >>> "Focus" dialog box as well. >>> >>> Is there a way to disable that dialog -- while >>> keeping the keyboard shortcut's functionality >>> and the "window focus outline" visual cue that you >>> see when hitting Alt-Tab? >>> >>> Thanks for your ideas. >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas on >>> your desktop! >>> Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> openbox mailing list >>> openbox at icculus.org >>> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox >> _______________________________________________ >> openbox mailing list >> openbox at icculus.org >> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox > > ____________________________________________________________ > FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas on your desktop! > Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium > > > _______________________________________________ > openbox mailing list > openbox at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox From danakj at orodu.net Sat Jan 24 20:27:54 2015 From: danakj at orodu.net (Dana Jansens) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 17:27:54 -0800 Subject: [openbox] put client-list-combined-menu in alphabetical order In-Reply-To: <20150124185001.GA25695@umich.edu> References: <20150124185001.GA25695@umich.edu> Message-ID: On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Jim Rees wrote: > Here is a patch I have found useful. It puts the client list menu in > alphabetical order. To finish this, you would have to make it configurable, > and also do the non-combined menu. > > From: Jim Rees > Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 13:39:18 -0500 > Subject: [PATCH 6/6] put client-list-combined-menu in alphabetical order > > Signed-off-by: Jim Rees > --- > openbox/client_list_combined_menu.c | 11 ++++++++++- > 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) > > diff --git a/openbox/client_list_combined_menu.c > b/openbox/client_list_combined_menu.c > index c26b6fa..2a3e083 100644 > --- a/openbox/client_list_combined_menu.c > +++ b/openbox/client_list_combined_menu.c > @@ -42,6 +42,13 @@ static void self_cleanup(ObMenu *menu, gpointer data) > menu_clear_entries(menu); > } > > +static gint > +compfunc(gconstpointer a, gconstpointer b) > +{ > + ObClient *c1 = (ObClient *) a, *c2 = (ObClient *) b; > + return strcmp(c1->title, c2->title); > +} > + > static gboolean self_update(ObMenuFrame *frame, gpointer data) > { > ObMenu *menu = frame->menu; > @@ -55,8 +62,10 @@ static gboolean self_update(ObMenuFrame *frame, > gpointer data) > gboolean empty = TRUE; > gboolean onlyiconic = TRUE; > > + it = g_list_sort(g_list_copy(focus_order), compfunc); > You need a matching g_list_free to avoid a memory leak, right? > + > menu_add_separator(menu, SEPARATOR, > screen_desktop_names[desktop]); > - for (it = focus_order; it; it = g_list_next(it)) { > + for (; it; it = g_list_next(it)) { > ObClient *c = it->data; > if (focus_valid_target(c, desktop, > TRUE, TRUE, > -- > 2.2.2 > _______________________________________________ > openbox mailing list > openbox at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kariotay at inbox.com Sat Jan 24 20:52:28 2015 From: kariotay at inbox.com (kario tay) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 17:52:28 -0800 Subject: [openbox] Is there a way to remove the "Focus Dialog" (alt-tab)? In-Reply-To: References: <5eb7fb12b34.00000924kariotay@inbox.com> <5c210ff7899.00000700kariotay@inbox.com> Message-ID: <615A74C2CF1.00000072kariotay@inbox.com> Interesting: Wondering if there's a flaw in my syntax somewhere. no none no none no none yesyes I added no to see if there was an effect, then issued 'openbox --reconfigure' on the commandline (as the login user, of course). Still no effect... > -----Original Message----- > From: graboluk at gmail.com > Sent: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 21:07:26 +0000 > To: openbox at icculus.org > Subject: Re: [openbox] Is there a way to remove the "Focus Dialog" > (alt-tab)? > > reconfigure should be enough. > > I use alt-tab to have switching between two windows without any dialog > and alt-ctrl-tab to switch with a dialog. AFAI understand in my setup > A-S-Tab does what you want. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no > none > > > > > no > none > > > > L > > 2015-01-24 20:50 GMT+00:00 kario tay : >> That looks great -- >> >> One other question: does the user have to log out and >> log back in to see the changes, or will the changes >> be visible after "re-configuring" openbox in the >> current session? >> >> I ask because I hit "ReConfigure Openbox" on the menu >> and there's been no change; the menu still appears. >> >> --- >> >> P.S. A search brings up a similar thread with XML example: >> >> >> >> none >> >> >> >> >> none >> >> >> >> The solution appears to be: >> none >> >> ...applied to both "A-Tab" and "A-S-Tab" keybindings. >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: graboluk at gmail.com >>> Sent: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 16:12:58 +0000 >>> To: openbox at icculus.org >>> Subject: Re: [openbox] Is there a way to remove the "Focus Dialog" >>> (alt-tab)? >>> >>> Perhaps >>> http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Actions#NextWindow >>> is what you need? >>> >>> L >>> >>> 2015-01-24 15:54 GMT+00:00 kario tay : >>>> Hi - >>>> >>>> I realized that there's no need (in my setup) >>>> for the application-switcher dialog box that >>>> pops up when you press Alt-Tab. >>>> >>>> The only setting that I see in rc.xml governs >>>> the desktop pager. It would be great if there >>>> was something similar for the application-switching >>>> "Focus" dialog box as well. >>>> >>>> Is there a way to disable that dialog -- while >>>> keeping the keyboard shortcut's functionality >>>> and the "window focus outline" visual cue that you >>>> see when hitting Alt-Tab? >>>> >>>> Thanks for your ideas. >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas >>>> on >>>> your desktop! >>>> Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> openbox mailing list >>>> openbox at icculus.org >>>> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox >>> _______________________________________________ >>> openbox mailing list >>> openbox at icculus.org >>> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas on >> your desktop! >> Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> openbox mailing list >> openbox at icculus.org >> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox > _______________________________________________ > openbox mailing list > openbox at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox ____________________________________________________________ Can't remember your password? Do you need a strong and secure password? Use Password manager! It stores your passwords & protects your account. Check it out at http://mysecurelogon.com/password-manager From rees at umich.edu Sun Jan 25 01:09:47 2015 From: rees at umich.edu (Jim Rees) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 01:09:47 -0500 Subject: [openbox] put client-list-combined-menu in alphabetical order In-Reply-To: References: <20150124185001.GA25695@umich.edu> Message-ID: <20150125060947.GA13002@umich.edu> Dana Jansens wrote: You need a matching g_list_free to avoid a memory leak, right? I wondered about that. The g_list documentation says nothing about it, although that would make sense. I ended up looking at the glist source, and yes, it needs a free. From graboluk at gmail.com Sun Jan 25 08:02:00 2015 From: graboluk at gmail.com (Lukasz Grabowski) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 13:02:00 +0000 Subject: [openbox] Is there a way to remove the "Focus Dialog" (alt-tab)? In-Reply-To: <615A74C2CF1.00000072kariotay@inbox.com> References: <5eb7fb12b34.00000924kariotay@inbox.com> <5c210ff7899.00000700kariotay@inbox.com> <615A74C2CF1.00000072kariotay@inbox.com> Message-ID: all I can see is that you use and I use ... , but I don't know if it's relevant. Perhaps you could copy-paste my keybinding for A-S-Tab and see if it does what you want: no none Best, L 2015-01-25 1:52 GMT+00:00 kario tay : > Interesting: > > Wondering if there's a flaw in my syntax somewhere. > > > > > no > none > > > > no > none > > > > no > none > yesyes > > > > I added > no > > to see if there was an effect, then issued 'openbox --reconfigure' > on the commandline (as the login user, of course). > > Still no effect... > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: graboluk at gmail.com >> Sent: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 21:07:26 +0000 >> To: openbox at icculus.org >> Subject: Re: [openbox] Is there a way to remove the "Focus Dialog" >> (alt-tab)? >> >> reconfigure should be enough. >> >> I use alt-tab to have switching between two windows without any dialog >> and alt-ctrl-tab to switch with a dialog. AFAI understand in my setup >> A-S-Tab does what you want. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> no >> none >> >> >> >> >> no >> none >> >> >> >> L >> >> 2015-01-24 20:50 GMT+00:00 kario tay : >>> That looks great -- >>> >>> One other question: does the user have to log out and >>> log back in to see the changes, or will the changes >>> be visible after "re-configuring" openbox in the >>> current session? >>> >>> I ask because I hit "ReConfigure Openbox" on the menu >>> and there's been no change; the menu still appears. >>> >>> --- >>> >>> P.S. A search brings up a similar thread with XML example: >>> >>> >>> >>> none >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> none >>> >>> >>> >>> The solution appears to be: >>> none >>> >>> ...applied to both "A-Tab" and "A-S-Tab" keybindings. >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: graboluk at gmail.com >>>> Sent: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 16:12:58 +0000 >>>> To: openbox at icculus.org >>>> Subject: Re: [openbox] Is there a way to remove the "Focus Dialog" >>>> (alt-tab)? >>>> >>>> Perhaps >>>> http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Actions#NextWindow >>>> is what you need? >>>> >>>> L >>>> >>>> 2015-01-24 15:54 GMT+00:00 kario tay : >>>>> Hi - >>>>> >>>>> I realized that there's no need (in my setup) >>>>> for the application-switcher dialog box that >>>>> pops up when you press Alt-Tab. >>>>> >>>>> The only setting that I see in rc.xml governs >>>>> the desktop pager. It would be great if there >>>>> was something similar for the application-switching >>>>> "Focus" dialog box as well. >>>>> >>>>> Is there a way to disable that dialog -- while >>>>> keeping the keyboard shortcut's functionality >>>>> and the "window focus outline" visual cue that you >>>>> see when hitting Alt-Tab? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your ideas. >>>>> >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas >>>>> on >>>>> your desktop! >>>>> Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> openbox mailing list >>>>> openbox at icculus.org >>>>> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> openbox mailing list >>>> openbox at icculus.org >>>> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas on >>> your desktop! >>> Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> openbox mailing list >>> openbox at icculus.org >>> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox >> _______________________________________________ >> openbox mailing list >> openbox at icculus.org >> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox > > ____________________________________________________________ > Can't remember your password? Do you need a strong and secure password? > Use Password manager! It stores your passwords & protects your account. > Check it out at http://mysecurelogon.com/password-manager > > > _______________________________________________ > openbox mailing list > openbox at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox From A.Thyssen at griffith.edu.au Mon Jan 26 18:46:44 2015 From: A.Thyssen at griffith.edu.au (Anthony Thyssen) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 09:46:44 +1000 Subject: [openbox] put client-list-combined-menu in alphabetical order In-Reply-To: <20150125060947.GA13002@umich.edu> References: <20150124185001.GA25695@umich.edu> <20150125060947.GA13002@umich.edu> Message-ID: <20150127094644.3a0fc744@chimera.itc.griffith.edu.au> On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 01:09:47 -0500 Jim Rees wrote: | Dana Jansens wrote: | | You need a matching g_list_free to avoid a memory leak, right? | | I wondered about that. The g_list documentation says nothing about it, | although that would make sense. I ended up looking at the glist source, and | yes, it needs a free. Function documentation is typically horrible in detailing 'requirements' and 'usage' details, su as that. Its often a case of the programmer being so close they assume everyone knows how to use it, and not thinking of the casual programmer years down the track. Hmmm.. Sorry... Pet peeve of mine. We now return you to your regularly scheduled program. Anthony Thyssen ( System Programmer ) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote." -- Ambassador Kosh -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony's Castle http://www.ict.griffith.edu.au/anthony/ From rees at umich.edu Mon Jan 26 22:43:48 2015 From: rees at umich.edu (Jim Rees) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 22:43:48 -0500 Subject: [openbox] gnome eats buttons 1 and 3 Message-ID: <20150127034348.GA4094@umich.edu> I've never had much use for desktop environments, but they've got me using gnome at work. After struggling with whatever window manager it comes with, I gave up on it and ran "openbox --replace". This works great, except that mouse 1 and 3 in the root window (desktop background) don't work. Mouse 1 does nothing, and mouse 3 brings up some gnome menu that's useless to me. Mouse 2 works fine. I'm tempted to give up on gnome, but I'd like to at least give it an honest try. Does anyone know how to get the missing buttons passed through to openbox? From danakj at orodu.net Mon Jan 26 23:06:03 2015 From: danakj at orodu.net (Dana Jansens) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 20:06:03 -0800 Subject: [openbox] gnome eats buttons 1 and 3 In-Reply-To: <20150127034348.GA4094@umich.edu> References: <20150127034348.GA4094@umich.edu> Message-ID: Stop running nautilus. You'll have to remove it from your session. On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Jim Rees wrote: > I've never had much use for desktop environments, but they've got me using > gnome at work. After struggling with whatever window manager it comes with, > I gave up on it and ran "openbox --replace". This works great, except that > mouse 1 and 3 in the root window (desktop background) don't work. Mouse 1 > does nothing, and mouse 3 brings up some gnome menu that's useless to > me. Mouse 2 works fine. > > I'm tempted to give up on gnome, but I'd like to at least give it an honest > try. Does anyone know how to get the missing buttons passed through to > openbox? > _______________________________________________ > openbox mailing list > openbox at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rees at umich.edu Tue Jan 27 18:38:47 2015 From: rees at umich.edu (Jim Rees) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 18:38:47 -0500 Subject: [openbox] gnome eats buttons 1 and 3 In-Reply-To: References: <20150127034348.GA4094@umich.edu> Message-ID: <20150127233847.GA12305@umich.edu> Dana Jansens wrote: Stop running nautilus. You'll have to remove it from your session. Thanks. I couldn't figure out how to disable it, and ended up doing this: gconftool-2 -t b -s /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop f I don't know if that stops nautilus, but it solved the problem. From A.Thyssen at griffith.edu.au Tue Jan 27 18:59:47 2015 From: A.Thyssen at griffith.edu.au (Anthony Thyssen) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 09:59:47 +1000 Subject: [openbox] gnome eats buttons 1 and 3 In-Reply-To: <20150127233847.GA12305@umich.edu> References: <20150127034348.GA4094@umich.edu> <20150127233847.GA12305@umich.edu> Message-ID: <20150128095947.622622f4@chimera.itc.griffith.edu.au> On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 18:38:47 -0500 Jim Rees wrote: | Dana Jansens wrote: | | Stop running nautilus. You'll have to remove it from your session. | | Thanks. I couldn't figure out how to disable it, and ended up doing this: | gconftool-2 -t b -s /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop f | | I don't know if that stops nautilus, but it solved the problem. | _______________________________________________ | openbox mailing list | openbox at icculus.org | http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox No it does not stop nautilus, just stops it putting a window over the root background window. Easiest way I found to get rid of all that gnome crap to remove the "Gnone Desktop" package, and specifically gdm. A simple replacement foir the "gdm" login is "lightdm" but do this from a text console, not the graphics console. I actually did this because I needed to also remove the mutter-wayland package as part of using the ATI Graphics Driver. For file managers thunar looks to be a good replacement. and lxpanel has worked well for me as a replacement for the launcher and toolbars, though it can take a bit to setup. NOTE This does not mean I cannot run gnome applications, I do that all the time. But without the main gnome startup stuff (from gdm) it does not take over your system! Anthony Thyssen ( System Programmer ) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Zatheris is, used to being beast of burden to other peoples needs. Very sad life. Probably a very sad death. At least there is symmetry! -- Zatheris, Bablyon 5, "War Without End" -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony's Castle http://www.ict.griffith.edu.au/anthony/ From kariotay at inbox.com Wed Jan 28 01:37:12 2015 From: kariotay at inbox.com (kario tay) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 22:37:12 -0800 Subject: [openbox] Is there a way to remove the "Focus Dialog" (alt-tab)? In-Reply-To: References: <5eb7fb12b34.00000924kariotay@inbox.com> <5c210ff7899.00000700kariotay@inbox.com> <615a74c2cf1.00000072kariotay@inbox.com> Message-ID: <898ED80D526.00000B49kariotay@inbox.com> Hi Lucas - It works... unfortunately, the next window is immediately raised (brought to the foreground) rather than showing the "focus outline" and allowing the user to A-Tab through until the right window is found... > -----Original Message----- > From: graboluk at gmail.com > Sent: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 13:02:00 +0000 > To: openbox at icculus.org > Subject: Re: [openbox] Is there a way to remove the "Focus Dialog" > (alt-tab)? > > all I can see is that you use and I use ... > , but I don't know if it's relevant. Perhaps you could > copy-paste my keybinding for A-S-Tab and see if it does what you want: > > > no > none > > > > Best, L > > 2015-01-25 1:52 GMT+00:00 kario tay : >> Interesting: >> >> Wondering if there's a flaw in my syntax somewhere. >> >> >> >> >> no >> none >> >> >> >> no >> none >> >> >> >> no >> none >> yesyes >> >> >> >> I added >> no >> >> to see if there was an effect, then issued 'openbox --reconfigure' >> on the commandline (as the login user, of course). >> >> Still no effect... >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: graboluk at gmail.com >>> Sent: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 21:07:26 +0000 >>> To: openbox at icculus.org >>> Subject: Re: [openbox] Is there a way to remove the "Focus Dialog" >>> (alt-tab)? >>> >>> reconfigure should be enough. >>> >>> I use alt-tab to have switching between two windows without any dialog >>> and alt-ctrl-tab to switch with a dialog. AFAI understand in my setup >>> A-S-Tab does what you want. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> no >>> none >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> no >>> none >>> >>> >>> >>> L >>> >>> 2015-01-24 20:50 GMT+00:00 kario tay : >>>> That looks great -- >>>> >>>> One other question: does the user have to log out and >>>> log back in to see the changes, or will the changes >>>> be visible after "re-configuring" openbox in the >>>> current session? >>>> >>>> I ask because I hit "ReConfigure Openbox" on the menu >>>> and there's been no change; the menu still appears. >>>> >>>> --- >>>> >>>> P.S. A search brings up a similar thread with XML example: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> none >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> none >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The solution appears to be: >>>> none >>>> >>>> ...applied to both "A-Tab" and "A-S-Tab" keybindings. >>>> >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: graboluk at gmail.com >>>>> Sent: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 16:12:58 +0000 >>>>> To: openbox at icculus.org >>>>> Subject: Re: [openbox] Is there a way to remove the "Focus Dialog" >>>>> (alt-tab)? >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps >>>>> http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Actions#NextWindow >>>>> is what you need? >>>>> >>>>> L >>>>> >>>>> 2015-01-24 15:54 GMT+00:00 kario tay : >>>>>> Hi - >>>>>> >>>>>> I realized that there's no need (in my setup) >>>>>> for the application-switcher dialog box that >>>>>> pops up when you press Alt-Tab. >>>>>> >>>>>> The only setting that I see in rc.xml governs >>>>>> the desktop pager. It would be great if there >>>>>> was something similar for the application-switching >>>>>> "Focus" dialog box as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there a way to disable that dialog -- while >>>>>> keeping the keyboard shortcut's functionality >>>>>> and the "window focus outline" visual cue that you >>>>>> see when hitting Alt-Tab? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for your ideas. >>>>>> >>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>>> FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas >>>>>> on >>>>>> your desktop! >>>>>> Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> openbox mailing list >>>>>> openbox at icculus.org >>>>>> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> openbox mailing list >>>>> openbox at icculus.org >>>>> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas >>>> on >>>> your desktop! >>>> Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> openbox mailing list >>>> openbox at icculus.org >>>> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox >>> _______________________________________________ >>> openbox mailing list >>> openbox at icculus.org >>> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Can't remember your password? Do you need a strong and secure password? >> Use Password manager! It stores your passwords & protects your account. >> Check it out at http://mysecurelogon.com/password-manager >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> openbox mailing list >> openbox at icculus.org >> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox > _______________________________________________ > openbox mailing list > openbox at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox ____________________________________________________________ FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium From kariotay at inbox.com Wed Jan 28 02:00:08 2015 From: kariotay at inbox.com (kario tay) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 23:00:08 -0800 Subject: [openbox] Is there a way to remove the "Focus Dialog" (alt-tab)? In-Reply-To: <898ED80D526.00000B49kariotay@inbox.com> References: <5eb7fb12b34.00000924kariotay@inbox.com> <615a74c2cf1.00000072kariotay@inbox.com> <5c210ff7899.00000700kariotay@inbox.com> Message-ID: <89C215E1792.00000B74kariotay@inbox.com> (...and, of course, I meant Lukasz.) > -----Original Message----- > From: kariotay at inbox.com > Sent: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 22:37:12 -0800 > To: openbox at icculus.org > Subject: Re: [openbox] Is there a way to remove the "Focus Dialog" > (alt-tab)? > > Hi Lucas - > > It works... unfortunately, the next window is > immediately raised (brought to the foreground) > rather than showing the "focus outline" and > allowing the user to A-Tab through > until the right window is found... > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: graboluk at gmail.com >> Sent: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 13:02:00 +0000 >> To: openbox at icculus.org >> Subject: Re: [openbox] Is there a way to remove the "Focus Dialog" >> (alt-tab)? >> >> all I can see is that you use and I use ... >> , but I don't know if it's relevant. Perhaps you could >> copy-paste my keybinding for A-S-Tab and see if it does what you want: >> >> >> no >> none >> >> >> >> Best, L >> >> 2015-01-25 1:52 GMT+00:00 kario tay : >>> Interesting: >>> >>> Wondering if there's a flaw in my syntax somewhere. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> no >>> none >>> >>> >>> >>> no >>> none >>> >>> >>> >>> no >>> none >>> yesyes >>> >>> >>> >>> I added >>> no >>> >>> to see if there was an effect, then issued 'openbox --reconfigure' >>> on the commandline (as the login user, of course). >>> >>> Still no effect... >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: graboluk at gmail.com >>>> Sent: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 21:07:26 +0000 >>>> To: openbox at icculus.org >>>> Subject: Re: [openbox] Is there a way to remove the "Focus Dialog" >>>> (alt-tab)? >>>> >>>> reconfigure should be enough. >>>> >>>> I use alt-tab to have switching between two windows without any dialog >>>> and alt-ctrl-tab to switch with a dialog. AFAI understand in my setup >>>> A-S-Tab does what you want. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> no >>>> none >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> no >>>> none >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> L >>>> >>>> 2015-01-24 20:50 GMT+00:00 kario tay : >>>>> That looks great -- >>>>> >>>>> One other question: does the user have to log out and >>>>> log back in to see the changes, or will the changes >>>>> be visible after "re-configuring" openbox in the >>>>> current session? >>>>> >>>>> I ask because I hit "ReConfigure Openbox" on the menu >>>>> and there's been no change; the menu still appears. >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> >>>>> P.S. A search brings up a similar thread with XML example: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> none >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> none >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The solution appears to be: >>>>> none >>>>> >>>>> ...applied to both "A-Tab" and "A-S-Tab" keybindings. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: graboluk at gmail.com >>>>>> Sent: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 16:12:58 +0000 >>>>>> To: openbox at icculus.org >>>>>> Subject: Re: [openbox] Is there a way to remove the "Focus Dialog" >>>>>> (alt-tab)? >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps >>>>>> http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Actions#NextWindow >>>>>> is what you need? >>>>>> >>>>>> L >>>>>> >>>>>> 2015-01-24 15:54 GMT+00:00 kario tay : >>>>>>> Hi - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I realized that there's no need (in my setup) >>>>>>> for the application-switcher dialog box that >>>>>>> pops up when you press Alt-Tab. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The only setting that I see in rc.xml governs >>>>>>> the desktop pager. It would be great if there >>>>>>> was something similar for the application-switching >>>>>>> "Focus" dialog box as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is there a way to disable that dialog -- while >>>>>>> keeping the keyboard shortcut's functionality >>>>>>> and the "window focus outline" visual cue that you >>>>>>> see when hitting Alt-Tab? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for your ideas. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>>>> FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & >>>>>>> orcas >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> your desktop! >>>>>>> Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> openbox mailing list >>>>>>> openbox at icculus.org >>>>>>> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> openbox mailing list >>>>>> openbox at icculus.org >>>>>> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox >>>>> >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>>> FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas >>>>> on >>>>> your desktop! >>>>> Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> openbox mailing list >>>>> openbox at icculus.org >>>>> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> openbox mailing list >>>> openbox at icculus.org >>>> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> Can't remember your password? Do you need a strong and secure password? >>> Use Password manager! It stores your passwords & protects your account. >>> Check it out at http://mysecurelogon.com/password-manager >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> openbox mailing list >>> openbox at icculus.org >>> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox >> _______________________________________________ >> openbox mailing list >> openbox at icculus.org >> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox > > ____________________________________________________________ > FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas on > your desktop! > Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium > > > _______________________________________________ > openbox mailing list > openbox at icculus.org > http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox ____________________________________________________________ Can't remember your password? Do you need a strong and secure password? Use Password manager! It stores your passwords & protects your account. Check it out at http://mysecurelogon.com/password-manager From danakj at orodu.net Wed Jan 28 02:18:36 2015 From: danakj at orodu.net (Dana Jansens) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 23:18:36 -0800 Subject: [openbox] Is there a way to remove the "Focus Dialog" (alt-tab)? In-Reply-To: <898ED80D526.00000B49kariotay@inbox.com> References: <5eb7fb12b34.00000924kariotay@inbox.com> <5c210ff7899.00000700kariotay@inbox.com> <615a74c2cf1.00000072kariotay@inbox.com> <898ED80D526.00000B49kariotay@inbox.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 10:37 PM, kario tay wrote: > Hi Lucas - > > It works... unfortunately, the next window is > immediately raised (brought to the foreground) > rather than showing the "focus outline" and > allowing the user to A-Tab through > until the right window is found... > >From http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Actions#NextWindow I think you want: none yes > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: graboluk at gmail.com > > Sent: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 13:02:00 +0000 > > To: openbox at icculus.org > > Subject: Re: [openbox] Is there a way to remove the "Focus Dialog" > > (alt-tab)? > > > > all I can see is that you use and I use ... > > , but I don't know if it's relevant. Perhaps you could > > copy-paste my keybinding for A-S-Tab and see if it does what you want: > > > > > > no > > none > > > > > > > > Best, L > > > > 2015-01-25 1:52 GMT+00:00 kario tay : > >> Interesting: > >> > >> Wondering if there's a flaw in my syntax somewhere. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> no > >> none > >> > >> > >> > >> no > >> none > >> > >> > >> > >> no > >> none > >> yesyes > >> > >> > >> > >> I added > >> no > >> > >> to see if there was an effect, then issued 'openbox --reconfigure' > >> on the commandline (as the login user, of course). > >> > >> Still no effect... > >> > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: graboluk at gmail.com > >>> Sent: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 21:07:26 +0000 > >>> To: openbox at icculus.org > >>> Subject: Re: [openbox] Is there a way to remove the "Focus Dialog" > >>> (alt-tab)? > >>> > >>> reconfigure should be enough. > >>> > >>> I use alt-tab to have switching between two windows without any dialog > >>> and alt-ctrl-tab to switch with a dialog. AFAI understand in my setup > >>> A-S-Tab does what you want. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> no > >>> none > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> no > >>> none > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> L > >>> > >>> 2015-01-24 20:50 GMT+00:00 kario tay : > >>>> That looks great -- > >>>> > >>>> One other question: does the user have to log out and > >>>> log back in to see the changes, or will the changes > >>>> be visible after "re-configuring" openbox in the > >>>> current session? > >>>> > >>>> I ask because I hit "ReConfigure Openbox" on the menu > >>>> and there's been no change; the menu still appears. > >>>> > >>>> --- > >>>> > >>>> P.S. A search brings up a similar thread with XML example: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> none > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> none > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> The solution appears to be: > >>>> none > >>>> > >>>> ...applied to both "A-Tab" and "A-S-Tab" keybindings. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: graboluk at gmail.com > >>>>> Sent: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 16:12:58 +0000 > >>>>> To: openbox at icculus.org > >>>>> Subject: Re: [openbox] Is there a way to remove the "Focus Dialog" > >>>>> (alt-tab)? > >>>>> > >>>>> Perhaps > >>>>> http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Actions#NextWindow > >>>>> is what you need? > >>>>> > >>>>> L > >>>>> > >>>>> 2015-01-24 15:54 GMT+00:00 kario tay : > >>>>>> Hi - > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I realized that there's no need (in my setup) > >>>>>> for the application-switcher dialog box that > >>>>>> pops up when you press Alt-Tab. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The only setting that I see in rc.xml governs > >>>>>> the desktop pager. It would be great if there > >>>>>> was something similar for the application-switching > >>>>>> "Focus" dialog box as well. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Is there a way to disable that dialog -- while > >>>>>> keeping the keyboard shortcut's functionality > >>>>>> and the "window focus outline" visual cue that you > >>>>>> see when hitting Alt-Tab? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks for your ideas. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ____________________________________________________________ > >>>>>> FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas > >>>>>> on > >>>>>> your desktop! > >>>>>> Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> openbox mailing list > >>>>>> openbox at icculus.org > >>>>>> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> openbox mailing list > >>>>> openbox at icculus.org > >>>>> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox > >>>> > >>>> ____________________________________________________________ > >>>> FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas > >>>> on > >>>> your desktop! > >>>> Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> openbox mailing list > >>>> openbox at icculus.org > >>>> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> openbox mailing list > >>> openbox at icculus.org > >>> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox > >> > >> ____________________________________________________________ > >> Can't remember your password? 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