From pedrib at gmail.com  Sun Nov  1 14:49:31 2009
From: pedrib at gmail.com (Pedro Ribeiro)
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 19:49:31 +0000
Subject: [openbox] Welcome to the "openbox" mailing list
In-Reply-To: <mailman.0.1257105246.30833.openbox@icculus.org>
References: <mailman.0.1257105246.30833.openbox@icculus.org>
Message-ID: <74fd948d0911011149r59cb378dw3c97cb01a2ddb8cf@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I have been using openbox alongside GNOME and Nautilus for about a
year now. Everything has been smooth, but at some point my GNOME got
upgraded and one keybinding stopped working. I use Windows + E to open
a nautilus window and that was the one which stopped working. I have
several other keybindings which use the Windows key and they all work.
Openbox does not complain when loading the configuration and debug
mode doesn't help - when I try to use the keybinding nothing happens.
Opening a nautilus window on the terminal using the exact same command
is fine... So I have no idea what's wrong.

Any help/suggestions would be extremely appreciated!

Thanks in advance,
Pedro Ribeiro

From txtoth at gmail.com  Mon Nov  2 12:05:36 2009
From: txtoth at gmail.com (Xavier Toth)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:05:36 -0500
Subject: [openbox] how about xdg-autostart being able to order .desktop
	execution
Message-ID: <cadfc0e40911020905n5d9d9d9fufe2d97ac7a473839@mail.gmail.com>

I'm using idesk with openbox and starting it with a desktop file in
/etc/xdg/autostart. idesk will put desktop icon on top of other
windows unless I start it last. I was thinking about something like
xinitrc.d where the files are sorted before execution.

Ted

From danakj at orodu.net  Mon Nov  2 15:24:13 2009
From: danakj at orodu.net (Dana Jansens)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:24:13 -0500
Subject: [openbox] how about xdg-autostart being able to order .desktop
	execution
In-Reply-To: <cadfc0e40911020905n5d9d9d9fufe2d97ac7a473839@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cadfc0e40911020905n5d9d9d9fufe2d97ac7a473839@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b3502dfb0911021224v512ceb31h128dd651bc7a1c8a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Ted,

2009/11/2 Xavier Toth <txtoth at gmail.com>:
> I'm using idesk with openbox and starting it with a desktop file in
> /etc/xdg/autostart. idesk will put desktop icon on top of other
> windows unless I start it last. I was thinking about something like
> xinitrc.d where the files are sorted before execution.

I think that's a really nice idea, but I do see some problems.  First
if there is an order specified, then every application adding things
to autostart needs to pick a number somehow, and they may all just
pick the same one since it is an independent choice.  Second, all the
autostart apps are launched asynchronously, since they are not
expected to ever exit, thus there is no way to know when to launch the
second one, compared to the first one, and so on.  So at what point
does the last one begin execution exactly?

You said that idesk must be run last, you can delay it by running a
script which "wait"s a few seconds before running idesk.  It's a hack
to work around idesk, but that might help.  I'm not sure what a
solution would look like to properly order the autostart system.

Dana

From A.Thyssen at griffith.edu.au  Mon Nov  2 20:38:43 2009
From: A.Thyssen at griffith.edu.au (Anthony Thyssen)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:38:43 +1000
Subject: [openbox] how about xdg-autostart being able to order .desktop
 execution
In-Reply-To: <b3502dfb0911021224v512ceb31h128dd651bc7a1c8a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cadfc0e40911020905n5d9d9d9fufe2d97ac7a473839@mail.gmail.com>
	<b3502dfb0911021224v512ceb31h128dd651bc7a1c8a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091103113843.1445e6ec@wraith>

On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:24:13 -0500
Dana Jansens <danakj at orodu.net> wrote:

| Hi Ted,
| 
| 2009/11/2 Xavier Toth <txtoth at gmail.com>:
| > I'm using idesk with openbox and starting it with a desktop file in
| > /etc/xdg/autostart. idesk will put desktop icon on top of other
| > windows unless I start it last. I was thinking about something like
| > xinitrc.d where the files are sorted before execution.
| 
| I think that's a really nice idea, but I do see some problems.  First
| if there is an order specified, then every application adding things
| to autostart needs to pick a number somehow, and they may all just
| pick the same one since it is an independent choice.  Second, all the
| autostart apps are launched asynchronously, since they are not
| expected to ever exit, thus there is no way to know when to launch the
| second one, compared to the first one, and so on.  So at what point
| does the last one begin execution exactly?
| 
| You said that idesk must be run last, you can delay it by running a
| script which "wait"s a few seconds before running idesk.  It's a hack
| to work around idesk, but that might help.  I'm not sure what a
| solution would look like to properly order the autostart system.
| 
An alternative is to use some tool that 'waits' for a specific window to
appear (or a timeout in case it never appears).

their are a number of tools that can do this but I wrote my own script
"xwin_find" using  xwininfo  Attached.

Now I start a program and wait for it to appear befor either doing
other things to the window just just continue with the start of the
next application.

for example... start firefox and what for it...

  firefox -P default -geometry 820x1000+530+70 &
  xwin_find -q 60 "Mozilla Firefox"

Or start it and resize and iconify its window!

  firefox -P default -geometry 820x1000+530+70 &
  if id=`xwin_find 60 "Mozilla Firefox"`; then
    echo "Firefox window found (id=$id)"
    # size, position, and iconify
    xwit -resize 820 1000 -move 530 70 -iconify -id $id
  else
    echo "Firefox window timeout"
  fi




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From abc.mikey at googlemail.com  Thu Nov 12 04:07:44 2009
From: abc.mikey at googlemail.com (mikey)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:07:44 +0000
Subject: [openbox] Temporary custom openbox
Message-ID: <4ebfceac0911120107y324a85ddma7184d8c67de6bc3@mail.gmail.com>

Hi there,

I'm writing a little application to start games in a second X session
and I'm hoping to use openbox as the window manager in the second
session. I'm hoping to be able to provide a custom setup for openbox
just for the games session. Is it possible to specify a new set of
config files (menu.xml, rc.xml, autostart.sh) from .xinitrc when
openbox-session is called?

If not when are these files read? Are they just accessed during
startup or does it expect to be able to read them at any time during
the session? If I can't use my own locations for these files I'm
wondering if I can move out the user's .config/openbox folder and
replace it with my own while I start openbox then once it's been
running for a couple of seconds copy back the user's own folder.

Thanks,

Michaael

From danakj at orodu.net  Thu Nov 12 09:22:30 2009
From: danakj at orodu.net (Dana Jansens)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:22:30 -0500
Subject: [openbox] Temporary custom openbox
In-Reply-To: <4ebfceac0911120107y324a85ddma7184d8c67de6bc3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ebfceac0911120107y324a85ddma7184d8c67de6bc3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b3502dfb0911120622y1985d192n6d309cf1870c882b@mail.gmail.com>

2009/11/12 mikey <abc.mikey at googlemail.com>:
> Hi there,
>
> I'm writing a little application to start games in a second X session
> and I'm hoping to use openbox as the window manager in the second
> session. I'm hoping to be able to provide a custom setup for openbox
> just for the games session. Is it possible to specify a new set of
> config files (menu.xml, rc.xml, autostart.sh) from .xinitrc when
> openbox-session is called?

You can use the XDG_CONFIG_HOME environment variable to change where
Openbox looks for its config files.

This is how it's defined [1]: $XDG_CONFIG_HOME defines the base
directory relative to which user specific configuration files should
be stored. If $XDG_CONFIG_HOME is either not set or empty, a default
equal to $HOME/.config should be used.  This could allow/cause you to
use a different config for other applications running in that session
as well, if they look at this variable.

> If not when are these files read? Are they just accessed during
> startup or does it expect to be able to read them at any time during
> the session? If I can't use my own locations for these files I'm
> wondering if I can move out the user's .config/openbox folder and
> replace it with my own while I start openbox then once it's been
> running for a couple of seconds copy back the user's own folder.

They are read 1) at startup and 2) when you tell Openbox to "reconfigure"

Cheers,
Dana

[1] http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-0.6.html

From pedrib at gmail.com  Thu Nov 12 11:58:53 2009
From: pedrib at gmail.com (Pedro Ribeiro)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:58:53 +0000
Subject: [openbox] Suggestion: Clickable Alt + Tab
Message-ID: <74fd948d0911120858o5fb01dc3x4406d6e7dec759ed@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I want to make a feature suggestion for Openbox. Is it possible to
have a clickable Alt + Tab?

That would be an awesome improvement!

Pedro

From jabberuser at gmail.com  Thu Nov 12 13:03:59 2009
From: jabberuser at gmail.com (Piotr Karbowski)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:03:59 +0100
Subject: [openbox] Suggestion: Clickable Alt + Tab
In-Reply-To: <74fd948d0911120858o5fb01dc3x4406d6e7dec759ed@mail.gmail.com>
References: <74fd948d0911120858o5fb01dc3x4406d6e7dec759ed@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6910cba00911121003t1e75423bhca0ae6628f770c7a@mail.gmail.com>

What you mean by 'clickable'?'

From pedrib at gmail.com  Thu Nov 12 13:07:15 2009
From: pedrib at gmail.com (Pedro Ribeiro)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:07:15 +0000
Subject: [openbox] Suggestion: Clickable Alt + Tab
In-Reply-To: <6910cba00911121003t1e75423bhca0ae6628f770c7a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <74fd948d0911120858o5fb01dc3x4406d6e7dec759ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<6910cba00911121003t1e75423bhca0ae6628f770c7a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <74fd948d0911121007t6304f99ft1cf033ef166e0a35@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I mean holding Alt + Tab for the cycle menu to appear and then use the
mouse to click on the icon of the window I want to change to.

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Piotr Karbowski <jabberuser at gmail.com> wrote:
> What you mean by 'clickable'?'
> _______________________________________________
> openbox mailing list
> openbox at icculus.org
> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox
>

From jabberuser at gmail.com  Thu Nov 12 13:45:11 2009
From: jabberuser at gmail.com (Piotr Karbowski)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:45:11 +0100
Subject: [openbox] Suggestion: Clickable Alt + Tab
In-Reply-To: <74fd948d0911121007t6304f99ft1cf033ef166e0a35@mail.gmail.com>
References: <74fd948d0911120858o5fb01dc3x4406d6e7dec759ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<6910cba00911121003t1e75423bhca0ae6628f770c7a@mail.gmail.com>
	<74fd948d0911121007t6304f99ft1cf033ef166e0a35@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6910cba00911121045m677c278x3425e682ef39cfab@mail.gmail.com>

There you go

## cut here.
<keybind key="A-Tab">
      <action name="ShowMenu">
        <menu>client-list-combined-menu</menu>
      </action>
    </keybind>
## cut here.

From pedrib at gmail.com  Thu Nov 12 13:56:12 2009
From: pedrib at gmail.com (Pedro Ribeiro)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:56:12 +0000
Subject: [openbox] Suggestion: Clickable Alt + Tab
In-Reply-To: <6910cba00911121045m677c278x3425e682ef39cfab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <74fd948d0911120858o5fb01dc3x4406d6e7dec759ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<6910cba00911121003t1e75423bhca0ae6628f770c7a@mail.gmail.com>
	<74fd948d0911121007t6304f99ft1cf033ef166e0a35@mail.gmail.com>
	<6910cba00911121045m677c278x3425e682ef39cfab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <74fd948d0911121056n7d698fe2i29f04a35548bcaa7@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Piotr Karbowski <jabberuser at gmail.com> wrote:
> There you go
>
> ## cut here.
> <keybind key="A-Tab">
> ? ? ?<action name="ShowMenu">
> ? ? ? ?<menu>client-list-combined-menu</menu>
> ? ? ?</action>
> ? ?</keybind>
> ## cut here.
> _______________________________________________
> openbox mailing list
> openbox at icculus.org
> http://icculus.org/mailman/listinfo/openbox
>

Wow! I really need to learn more about openbox.

Thanks a lot.

From freddie_signup at gmx.co.uk  Sun Nov 15 08:45:19 2009
From: freddie_signup at gmx.co.uk (Freddie Exall)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:45:19 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [openbox] tint2 border
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0910311404180.2655@debian.desktop.play.desktop.play>
References: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0910311404180.2655@debian.desktop.play.desktop.play>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0911151339510.6171@eeepc.fands.net>



On Sat, 31 Oct 2009, Freddie Exall wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, Doug Barton wrote:
>
>> Freddie Exall wrote:
>>> I'm running tint2 inside openbox with
>>>
>>>     <application name="*">
>>>         <decor>no</decor>
>>>     </application>
>>> 
>>> and
>>>
>>>     <keepBorder>yes</keepBorder>
>>> 
>>> in my rc.xml. (i.e. I'm wanting everything to have no decorations but
>>> with a border). This is working well for everything except my tint2
>>> taskbar. I'm wanting it to have no border. When I first log in to
>>> openbox tint2 appears WITH a border, however, reconfiguring openbox
>>> removes this border.
>> 
>> I'm not 100% sure where you're going wrong, however I'm running tint2
>> and I have <keepBorder>yes</keepBorder> in my rc.xml and I'm not
>> having this problem.
>> 
>> First question is, how are you starting it? I have "tint2 &" in my
>> autostart.sh and that works fine for me. I suspect that what you
>> really want to do is fiddle with the tint2rc file. I had to fiddle
>> with it for a while but finally got to the point where the tint panel
>> itself has no background or border. It took some time to get there
>> though, so maybe you need to keep playing with it.
>> 
>
> I'm starting tint2 with "tint2 &" in my autostart.sh also. I've been using 
> tint2 for a while and the config for it doesn't give it a border. Switching 
> to <keepBorder>yes</keepBorder> gives it the same border as all other windows 
> which makes me suspect it's openbox doing it. Plus, I've just tried editing 
> my tint2rc file to give it a border, killed tint2 and re-launched it and it's 
> got a stupid white border along with openbox's grey one. Also, reconfiguring 
> OPENBOX removes the erroneous border.
>
>> 
>> hth,
>> 
>> Doug

Okay. We couldn't work out why tint2 was launching with a border on my 
machine. Is there a way that I can use an application specific setting in 
openbox's rc.xml to force tint2 (and xclock) to have no border, regardless 
of the fact that I have keepBorder on in the same file? I can't find a way 
and I'm wanting to check I haven't missed anything before I add a feature 
request.

Cheers,

Freddie

From danakj at orodu.net  Sun Nov 15 18:47:55 2009
From: danakj at orodu.net (Dana Jansens)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:47:55 -0500
Subject: [openbox] tint2 border
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0911151339510.6171@eeepc.fands.net>
References: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0910311404180.2655@debian.desktop.play.desktop.play>
	<alpine.DEB.2.00.0911151339510.6171@eeepc.fands.net>
Message-ID: <b3502dfb0911151547p64ddba33uee4d786975674c76@mail.gmail.com>

2009/11/15 Freddie Exall <freddie_signup at gmx.co.uk>:
> Okay. We couldn't work out why tint2 was launching with a border on my
> machine. Is there a way that I can use an application specific setting in
> openbox's rc.xml to force tint2 (and xclock) to have no border, regardless
> of the fact that I have keepBorder on in the same file? I can't find a way
> and I'm wanting to check I haven't missed anything before I add a feature
> request.

What version of Openbox are you using ?  I can't understand how it
would be putting a border in the first place. Dock windows don't get
borders ever regardless of any config file settings.

Dana

From dougb at dougbarton.us  Sun Nov 15 18:58:50 2009
From: dougb at dougbarton.us (Doug Barton)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:58:50 -0800
Subject: [openbox] tint2 border
In-Reply-To: <b3502dfb0911151547p64ddba33uee4d786975674c76@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0910311404180.2655@debian.desktop.play.desktop.play>	<alpine.DEB.2.00.0911151339510.6171@eeepc.fands.net>
	<b3502dfb0911151547p64ddba33uee4d786975674c76@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B0095BA.9060100@dougbarton.us>

Dana Jansens wrote:
> 2009/11/15 Freddie Exall <freddie_signup at gmx.co.uk>:
>> Okay. We couldn't work out why tint2 was launching with a border on my
>> machine. Is there a way that I can use an application specific setting in
>> openbox's rc.xml to force tint2 (and xclock) to have no border, regardless
>> of the fact that I have keepBorder on in the same file? I can't find a way
>> and I'm wanting to check I haven't missed anything before I add a feature
>> request.
> 
> What version of Openbox are you using ?  I can't understand how it
> would be putting a border in the first place. Dock windows don't get
> borders ever regardless of any config file settings.

I suggested previously that the border is a result of tint2rc settings
and AFAIK that message/idea was never responded to.

Doug

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From freddie_signup at gmx.co.uk  Mon Nov 16 15:30:59 2009
From: freddie_signup at gmx.co.uk (Freddie Exall)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:30:59 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [openbox] tint2 border
In-Reply-To: <4B0095BA.9060100@dougbarton.us>
References: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0910311404180.2655@debian.desktop.play.desktop.play>
	<alpine.DEB.2.00.0911151339510.6171@eeepc.fands.net>
	<b3502dfb0911151547p64ddba33uee4d786975674c76@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B0095BA.9060100@dougbarton.us>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0911162024470.2191@debian.desktop.play.desktop.play>

On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, Doug Barton wrote:

> Dana Jansens wrote:
>> 2009/11/15 Freddie Exall <freddie_signup at gmx.co.uk>:
>>> Okay. We couldn't work out why tint2 was launching with a border on my
>>> machine. Is there a way that I can use an application specific setting in
>>> openbox's rc.xml to force tint2 (and xclock) to have no border, regardless
>>> of the fact that I have keepBorder on in the same file? I can't find a way
>>> and I'm wanting to check I haven't missed anything before I add a feature
>>> request.
>>
>> What version of Openbox are you using ?  I can't understand how it
>> would be putting a border in the first place. Dock windows don't get
>> borders ever regardless of any config file settings.
>
> I suggested previously that the border is a result of tint2rc settings
> and AFAIK that message/idea was never responded to.
>
> Doug

I'm afraid it was... at some length:

> I've been using tint2 for a while and the config for it doesn't give it 
> a border. Switching to <keepBorder>yes</keepBorder> gives it the same 
> border as all other windows which makes me suspect it's openbox doing 
> it. Plus, I've just tried editing my tint2rc file to give it a border, 
> killed tint2 and re-launched it and it's got a stupid white border along 
> with openbox's grey one. Also, reconfiguring OPENBOX removes the 
> erroneous border.

I really can't see how it can be tint2's border if reconfiguring openbox 
removes it. However, I have been mistaken in the past ;)

For reference, I'm using openbox 3.4.7.2

Freddie

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From dougb at dougbarton.us  Mon Nov 16 16:23:16 2009
From: dougb at dougbarton.us (Doug Barton)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:23:16 -0800
Subject: [openbox] tint2 border
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0911162024470.2191@debian.desktop.play.desktop.play>
References: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0910311404180.2655@debian.desktop.play.desktop.play>	<alpine.DEB.2.00.0911151339510.6171@eeepc.fands.net>	<b3502dfb0911151547p64ddba33uee4d786975674c76@mail.gmail.com>	<4B0095BA.9060100@dougbarton.us>
	<alpine.DEB.2.00.0911162024470.2191@debian.desktop.play.desktop.play>
Message-ID: <4B01C2C4.9050101@dougbarton.us>

Freddie Exall wrote:
> I really can't see how it can be tint2's border if reconfiguring openbox
> removes it. However, I have been mistaken in the past ;)
> 
> For reference, I'm using openbox 3.4.7.2

I'm using a theme that has <keepBorder>yes</keepBorder> inside the
<theme> container in rc.xml, along with the tint2rc at
http://dougbarton.us/tint2rc which produces a tint2 like this:
http://dougbarton.us/tint2-screenshot.png which has no border.

The only other thing I can think of is that perhaps your root window
is not set properly? I noticed when I first started using tint that
without running hsetroot (or something similar) I got odd results,
especially with settings that use transparency.


hth,

Doug

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From freddie_signup at gmx.co.uk  Tue Nov 17 03:48:20 2009
From: freddie_signup at gmx.co.uk (Freddie Exall)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:48:20 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [openbox] tint2 border
In-Reply-To: <4B01C2C4.9050101@dougbarton.us>
References: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0910311404180.2655@debian.desktop.play.desktop.play>
	<alpine.DEB.2.00.0911151339510.6171@eeepc.fands.net>
	<b3502dfb0911151547p64ddba33uee4d786975674c76@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B0095BA.9060100@dougbarton.us>
	<alpine.DEB.2.00.0911162024470.2191@debian.desktop.play.desktop.play>
	<4B01C2C4.9050101@dougbarton.us>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0911170836440.4082@debian.desktop.play.desktop.play>

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009, Doug Barton wrote:

> Freddie Exall wrote:
>> I really can't see how it can be tint2's border if reconfiguring openbox
>> removes it. However, I have been mistaken in the past ;)
>>
>> For reference, I'm using openbox 3.4.7.2
>
> I'm using a theme that has <keepBorder>yes</keepBorder> inside the
> <theme> container in rc.xml, along with the tint2rc at
> http://dougbarton.us/tint2rc which produces a tint2 like this:
> http://dougbarton.us/tint2-screenshot.png which has no border.
>
> The only other thing I can think of is that perhaps your root window
> is not set properly? I noticed when I first started using tint that
> without running hsetroot (or something similar) I got odd results,
> especially with settings that use transparency.
>

After writing a long, detailed and eloquently worded reply I worked out 
what the problem was. I had

<application name="*">
   <decor>no</decor>
</application>

in my rc.xml . Commenting it out makes tint2 behave properly. I'm not sure 
why having this in would GIVE tint2 a border... Is this a bug?

>
> hth,
>
> Doug
>
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From danakj at orodu.net  Tue Nov 17 18:05:20 2009
From: danakj at orodu.net (Dana Jansens)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:05:20 -0500
Subject: [openbox] tint2 border
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0911170836440.4082@debian.desktop.play.desktop.play>
References: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0910311404180.2655@debian.desktop.play.desktop.play>
	<alpine.DEB.2.00.0911151339510.6171@eeepc.fands.net>
	<b3502dfb0911151547p64ddba33uee4d786975674c76@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4B0095BA.9060100@dougbarton.us>
	<alpine.DEB.2.00.0911162024470.2191@debian.desktop.play.desktop.play>
	<4B01C2C4.9050101@dougbarton.us>
	<alpine.DEB.2.00.0911170836440.4082@debian.desktop.play.desktop.play>
Message-ID: <b3502dfb0911171505x77e4a7afte32b9f0cc334b962@mail.gmail.com>

2009/11/17 Freddie Exall <freddie_signup at gmx.co.uk>:
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009, Doug Barton wrote:
>
>> Freddie Exall wrote:
>>>
>>> I really can't see how it can be tint2's border if reconfiguring openbox
>>> removes it. However, I have been mistaken in the past ;)
>>>
>>> For reference, I'm using openbox 3.4.7.2
>>
>> I'm using a theme that has <keepBorder>yes</keepBorder> inside the
>> <theme> container in rc.xml, along with the tint2rc at
>> http://dougbarton.us/tint2rc which produces a tint2 like this:
>> http://dougbarton.us/tint2-screenshot.png which has no border.
>>
>> The only other thing I can think of is that perhaps your root window
>> is not set properly? I noticed when I first started using tint that
>> without running hsetroot (or something similar) I got odd results,
>> especially with settings that use transparency.
>>
>
> After writing a long, detailed and eloquently worded reply I worked out what
> the problem was. I had
>
> <application name="*">
> ?<decor>no</decor>
> </application>
>
> in my rc.xml . Commenting it out makes tint2 behave properly. I'm not sure
> why having this in would GIVE tint2 a border... Is this a bug?

Yes I think so.. It should not add a border.  Can you open a bug in
the bugzilla for this?

Thanks,
Dana

From freddie_signup at gmx.co.uk  Wed Nov 18 06:41:10 2009
From: freddie_signup at gmx.co.uk (Freddie Exall)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:41:10 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [openbox] tint2 border
In-Reply-To: <b3502dfb0911171505x77e4a7afte32b9f0cc334b962@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0910311404180.2655@debian.desktop.play.desktop.play>
	<alpine.DEB.2.00.0911151339510.6171@eeepc.fands.net>
	<b3502dfb0911151547p64ddba33uee4d786975674c76@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B0095BA.9060100@dougbarton.us>
	<alpine.DEB.2.00.0911162024470.2191@debian.desktop.play.desktop.play>
	<4B01C2C4.9050101@dougbarton.us>
	<alpine.DEB.2.00.0911170836440.4082@debian.desktop.play.desktop.play>
	<b3502dfb0911171505x77e4a7afte32b9f0cc334b962@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0911181131550.2209@workstation>


>> After writing a long, detailed and eloquently worded reply I worked out what
>> the problem was. I had
>>
>> <application name="*">
>> ?<decor>no</decor>
>> </application>
>>
>> in my rc.xml . Commenting it out makes tint2 behave properly. I'm not sure
>> why having this in would GIVE tint2 a border... Is this a bug?
>
> Yes I think so.. It should not add a border.  Can you open a bug in
> the bugzilla for this?
>

Filed at http://bugzilla.icculus.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4344

Thanks.

>
> Thanks,
> Dana

From pedrib at gmail.com  Sun Nov 22 08:19:33 2009
From: pedrib at gmail.com (Pedro Ribeiro)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:19:33 +0000
Subject: [openbox] specify application window size
Message-ID: <74fd948d0911220519p569c7091s2f14aab81f3bd335@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,
is there a way to specify which size an application window must have
when opened?

Currently I'm using this:
   <application name="google-chrome"
                classe="Google-chrome">
      <position force="no">
         <x>0</x>
         <y>0</y>
      </position>
      <maximized>false</maximized>
   </application>

Which works if I set the "unmaximized" size the way I want, but I'd
still like a fixed size when opening.

Thanks,
Pedro

From il.zoff at gmail.com  Sun Nov 22 18:23:31 2009
From: il.zoff at gmail.com (Ilia Zemskov)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:23:31 +0300
Subject: [openbox] changing menu.xml,
	rc.xml and "openbox --reconfigure" doesn't change 	anything
Message-ID: <904272910911221523m31d304a7red83cec57233e42c@mail.gmail.com>

Hi. I have a problem here. Can you help?
I have autostart.sh, rc.xml and menu.xml in my
/home/ilia/.config/openbox folder.
And if i change something in rc or menu files, and then do "openbox
--reconfigure", nothing happens.
It's weird, 'cause autostart.sh works as expected.
And there's more: when i'm trying to change something using ObConf, i
get the message
"An error occured while saving the config file
'/root/.config/openbox/rc.xml'". Why he's trying
to do something in /root/ ? I've tried to cp my menu.xml to
/root/.config/openbox just in case,
and it doesn't change anything.

I have Archlinux, i've installed openbox being not-root.
And i launch openbox by startx and "exec openbox-session" in my ~/.xinitrc

Thanks )

Ilia
////

From beacon at videotron.ca  Sun Nov 22 21:53:45 2009
From: beacon at videotron.ca (Frank)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:53:45 -0500
Subject: [openbox] changing menu.xml,
 rc.xml and "openbox --reconfigure" doesn't change  anything
In-Reply-To: <904272910911221523m31d304a7red83cec57233e42c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <904272910911221523m31d304a7red83cec57233e42c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091122215345.edd6d0d9.beacon@videotron.ca>

On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:23:31 +0300
Ilia Zemskov <il.zoff at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi. I have a problem here. Can you help?
> I have autostart.sh, rc.xml and menu.xml in my
> /home/ilia/.config/openbox folder.
> And if i change something in rc or menu files, and then do "openbox
> --reconfigure", nothing happens.
> It's weird, 'cause autostart.sh works as expected.
> And there's more: when i'm trying to change something using ObConf, i
> get the message
> "An error occured while saving the config file
> '/root/.config/openbox/rc.xml'". Why he's trying
> to do something in /root/ ? I've tried to cp my menu.xml to
> /root/.config/openbox just in case,
> and it doesn't change anything.


   Are you running obconf(ig) as root? Check roots .config/openbox
directory to see what files are in there and what permissions they have and
who owns them.


-- 
Frank<beacon at videotron.ca>