[mohaa] [mohPA] Linux Bins?

mohaa at vandrosthagen.net mohaa at vandrosthagen.net
Tue Dec 7 03:49:35 EST 2004


Hi all,

You are all right. If EA is going to be walking this path every other game
coming out will die an early dead because people are going to ignore them.

What i can understand is why windows is higher on the priority of EA it's
money. Linux is an opensource not bringing any money in (they think) but
windows has support and partnership and is paying to bring it out on their
platform.

But Lestat just pointed it out when they are ignoring Linux they will
ignore the complete online-gameplay and this will coast them in the long
run.

So EA WAKE UP!!!!!!!! AND SMELL THE COFFEE......!!!!!

I hope Ryan doesn't be offended with this mail flow (we are not breathing
in your neck) because he is doing a hell of a job out there. Every time he
touched one of the games it went into gold... Ryan keep up the good work
and thanks for all the work you are doing.

Regards
Quint



> Hi,
>
> EA seem to not realise that Linux is as important for not say more =
> important as Windows into server's hosting and that is really sad...
> They don't need to make a full client but just a dedicated server on =
> Linux...
>
> They just released a Wndows patch for Battlefield (1942 and Vietnam) =
> without any annoucement about the Linux patch and of course people that =
> updated theyr game were not able to connect on Linux's servers...=20
> I counted 4 french server with the 1.21 patch (mean on windows) against =
> 36 no-patched 1.2 server for BFV... That's a shame for me because it is =
> not mentionned that if you patch your game you will probabily not be =
> able to connect on servers... So people patch and then can't no more =
> play on theyr server....=20
> This show how much server are hosted on Linux and i hope EA will now =
> understand that without Linux's servers they can't sell theyr games...=20
> (Counted approximaly on world's server BFV: 392 with the 40 EA =
> official's server so can say about 350 updated server on 1150 =3D 30% so =
> mean about 60-70% blocked)
>
> MohPA will not grow up till first they got a Linux server's support for =
> get more server online thats mean more people rent servers so mean more =
> people bought the game.... and of course they better get a lower CPU =
> usage because that fix the server's prices and if it is too high people =
> can't afford it so they don't rent server so they don't buy the game...=20
>
> When you see it is only 90 PA server worldwide with 18 EA official's =
> server against hundred of CoD's servers and this after about one =
> month...=20
>
> In a way I wonder if it is not some way to promote windows when you see =
> some partnership... but that's my opinion...
>
> So I still hope they will learn one day and we will get Linux's server =
> sooner and especialy update at the same time as Windows's one....
>
> Lestat
>   ----- Original Message -----=20
>   From: Jeroen "kanarip" van Meeuwen=20
>   To: mohaa at icculus.org=20
>   Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 11:52 PM
>   Subject: RE: [mohaa] [mohPA] Linux Bins?
>
>
>   Very fast indeed, the CoD linux patches seemed to be released at the =
> same time as the windows versions were... I wonder why...
>
>   =20
>
>   Maybe it is because ACTIVISION does support linux, while EA disregards =
> linux as a superior server OS...
>
>   =20
>
>   --
>
>   Jeroen "kanarip" van Meeuwen
>
>   =20
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
> -----
>
>   From: Mark [mailto:icculus at fps-factory.nl]=20
>   Sent: maandag 6 december 2004 23:40
>   To: mohaa at icculus.org
>   Subject: RE: [mohaa] [mohPA] Linux Bins?
>
>   =20
>
>   Well you can't expect anything else than a delay. First of all EA has =
> to release the patch and then the scripters have to update the linux =
> version J But the delay isn't that much, for CoD the updates were very =
> fast J
>
>   =20
>
>   --=20
>
>   Mark
>
>   =20
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
> -----
>
>   From: Stijn Vansevenant [mailto:stijnvansevenant at hotmail.com]=20
>   Sent: maandag 6 december 2004 21:00
>   To: mohaa at icculus.org
>   Subject: Re: [mohaa] [mohPA] Linux Bins?
>
>   =20
>
>   Okey, i will be nice and wait patiently. I'm glad to know they are =
> still working on Linux support, some rumours are goiing there won't be =
> anny Linux support  and that would be realy sad.
>
>   So i'm glad there is one comming, another question i have to ask, will =
> there be on each patch for MohPA an delay on the Linux version of it (it =
> isn't bad if it's just a day or two, but a month is realy long i think), =
> i know it takes some time to make the Linux patch so that's why i ask.
>
>   >From: "Jay Vasallo" <haze at clanwarz.net>=20
>
>   >Reply-To: mohaa at icculus.org=20
>
>   >To: <mohaa at icculus.org>=20
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>   >Subject: Re: [mohaa] [mohPA] Linux Bins?=20
>
>   >Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 13:52:22 -0600=20
>
>   >=20
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>   >Join the crew! We have been waiting PATIENTLY for a while also. =3Do) =
>
>
>   >   ----- Original Message -----=20
>
>   >   From: Stijn Vansevenant=20
>
>   >   To: mohaa at icculus.org=20
>
>   >   Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 1:38 PM=20
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>   >   Subject: Re: [mohaa] [mohPA] Linux Bins?=20
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>   >=20
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>   >=20
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>   >   Annyone knows how long we still have to wait? I'm realy getting =
> unpatient about that Linux server support, i rented a Linux Private Clan =
> Gameserver some weeks ago now and we all want to start playing.=20
>
>   >=20
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>   >   And do the server admins still have to upload the full game =
> (+4gig) unto there servers to set those gameservers up?=20
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>   >=20
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>   >   Don't mind my English, i'm from Belgium=20
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>   >   >From: <patrick at fragzzhost.com>=20
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>   >   >Reply-To: mohaa at icculus.org=20
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>   >   >To: <mohaa at icculus.org>=20
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>   >   >Subject: Re: [mohaa] [mohPA] Linux Bins?=20
>
>   >   >Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 20:34:24 +0100=20
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>   >   >=20
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>   >   >noo its quiet here....the dude is still coding :)=20
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>   >   >=20
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>   >   >----- Original Message -----=20
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>   >   >From: "[oliver] format" <oliver at cls-crew.com>=20
>
>   >   >To: <mohaa at icculus.org>=20
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>   >   >Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 8:21 PM=20
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>   >   >Subject: [mohaa] [mohPA] Linux Bins?=20
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>   >   > > Hi Maillist,=20
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>   >   > > anyone have news about the Linux Version of "Pacific Assault" =
> for dedicated=20
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>   >   > > Thx in advance, olli aka format=20
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>EA seem to not realise that Linux is as =
> important=20
> for not say more important as Windows into server's hosting and that is =
> really=20
> sad...</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>They don't need to make a full client =
> but just a=20
> dedicated server on Linux...</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>They just released a Wndows patch for =
> Battlefield=20
> (1942 and Vietnam) without any annoucement about the Linux patch and of =
> course=20
> people that updated theyr game were not able to connect on Linux's =
> servers...=20
> </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I counted 4 french server with the 1.21 =
> patch (mean=20
> on windows) against 36 no-patched 1.2 server for BFV... That's a shame =
> for me=20
> because it is not mentionned that if you patch your game you will =
> probabily not=20
> be able to connect on servers... So people patch and then can't no more =
> play on=20
> theyr server.... </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This show how much server are hosted on =
> Linux and i=20
> hope EA will now understand that without Linux's servers they can't sell =
> theyr=20
> games... </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(Counted approximaly on world's server =
> BFV: 392=20
> with the 40 EA official's server so can say about 350 updated server on =
> 1150 =3D=20
> 30% so mean about 60-70% blocked)</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MohPA will not grow up till first they =
> got a Linux=20
> server's support for get more server online thats mean more people rent =
> servers=20
> so mean more people bought the game.... and of course they better get a =
> lower=20
> CPU usage because that fix the server's prices and if it is too high =
> people=20
> can't afford it so they don't rent server so they don't buy the game...=20
> </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>When you see it is only 90 PA server =
> worldwide with=20
> 18 EA official's server against hundred of CoD's servers and this after =
> about=20
> one month... </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In a way I wonder if it is not some way =
> to promote=20
> windows when you see some partnership... but that's my =
> opinion...</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So I still hope they will learn one day =
> and we will=20
> get Linux's server sooner and especialy update at the same time as =
> Windows's=20
> one....</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lestat</FONT></DIV>
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>   <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
>   <DIV=20
>   style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
> black"><B>From:</B>=20
>   <A title=3Dkanarip at pczone-clan.nl =
> href=3D"mailto:kanarip at pczone-clan.nl">Jeroen=20
>   "kanarip" van Meeuwen</A> </DIV>
>   <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
> title=3Dmohaa at icculus.org=20
>   href=3D"mailto:mohaa at icculus.org">mohaa at icculus.org</A> </DIV>
>   <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 06, 2004 =
> 11:52=20
>   PM</DIV>
>   <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [mohaa] [mohPA] =
> Linux=20
>   Bins?</DIV>
>   <DIV><BR></DIV>
>   <DIV class=3DSection1>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Very fast =
> indeed, the=20
>   CoD linux patches seemed to be released at the same time as the =
> windows=20
>   versions were... I wonder why...<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
> Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Maybe it is =
> because=20
>   <B><U><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">ACTIVISION</SPAN></U></B> does =
> support=20
>   linux, while EA disregards linux as a superior server=20
>   OS...<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
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>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
> Arial">--<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jeroen =
> =93kanarip=94 van=20
>   Meeuwen<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
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>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
>   style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
> Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
>   face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
> Tahoma"> Mark=20
>   [mailto:icculus at fps-factory.nl] <BR><B><SPAN=20
>   style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> maandag 6 december 2004=20
>   23:40<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
>   mohaa at icculus.org<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
> bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>=20
>   RE: [mohaa] [mohPA] Linux Bins?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN =
> lang=3DEN-GB=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Well you =
> can=92t expect=20
>   anything else than a delay. First of all EA has to release the patch =
> and then=20
>   the scripters have to update the linux version </SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
>   face=3DWingdings color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
> Wingdings">J</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
>   face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN lang=3DEN-GB=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> But the =
> delay isn=92t=20
>   that much, for CoD the updates were very fast </SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
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>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
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>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
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> lang=3DEN-GB=20
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>   style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
> Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
>   face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
> Arial"> Stijn=20
>   Vansevenant [mailto:stijnvansevenant at hotmail.com] <BR><B><SPAN=20
>   style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> maandag 6 december 2004=20
>   21:00<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> =
> <st1:PersonName=20
>   w:st=3D"on">mohaa at icculus.org</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN=20
>   style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [mohaa] [mohPA] =
> Linux=20
>   Bins?</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN=20
>   style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
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>   <DIV>
>   <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Okey, i will be nice and =
> wait=20
>   patiently. I'm glad to know they are still working on Linux support, =
> some=20
>   rumours are goiing there won't be anny Linux support&nbsp; and that =
> would be=20
>   realy sad.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN =
> lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">So i'm glad there is one =
> comming,=20
>   another question i have to ask, will there be on each patch for MohPA =
> an delay=20
>   on the Linux version of it (it isn't bad if it's just a day or two, =
> but a=20
>   month is realy long i think), i know it takes some time to make the =
> Linux=20
>   patch so that's why i ask.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;From: "Jay Vasallo"=20
>   &lt;haze at clanwarz.net&gt; <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;Reply-To: =
> <st1:PersonName=20
>   w:st=3D"on">mohaa at icculus.org</st1:PersonName> =
> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;To: =
> &lt;<st1:PersonName=20
>   w:st=3D"on">mohaa at icculus.org</st1:PersonName>&gt; =
> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;Subject: Re: [mohaa] =
> [mohPA]=20
>   Linux Bins? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;Date: Mon, 6 Dec =
> 2004 13:52:22=20
>   -0600 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt; =
> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;Join the crew! We =
> have been=20
>   waiting PATIENTLY for a while also. =3Do) =
> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; ----- =
> Original=20
>   Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; From: =
> Stijn=20
>   Vansevenant <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; To:=20
>   <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">mohaa at icculus.org</st1:PersonName>=20
>   <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sent: =
> Monday,=20
>   December 06, 2004 1:38 PM <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
> Subject: Re:=20
>   [mohaa] [mohPA] Linux Bins? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt; =
> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt; =
> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Annyone =
> knows how=20
>   long we still have to wait? I'm realy getting unpatient about that =
> Linux=20
>   server support, i rented a Linux Private Clan Gameserver some weeks =
> ago now=20
>   and we all want to start playing. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt; =
> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; And do =
> the server=20
>   admins still have to upload the full game (+4gig) unto there servers =
> to set=20
>   those gameservers up? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt; =
> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Don't =
> mind my=20
>   English, i'm from Belgium <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt; =
> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt; =
> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt; =
> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
> &gt;From:=20
>   &lt;patrick at fragzzhost.com&gt; <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
> &gt;Reply-To:=20
>   <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">mohaa at icculus.org</st1:PersonName>=20
>   <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;To: =
>
>   &lt;<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">mohaa at icculus.org</st1:PersonName>&gt; =
>
>   <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
> &gt;Subject: Re:=20
>   [mohaa] [mohPA] Linux Bins? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
> &gt;Date: Mon, 6=20
>   Dec 2004 20:34:24 +0100 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20
>   <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;noo =
> its quiet=20
>   here....the dude is still coding :) <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20
>   <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
> &gt;-----=20
>   Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
> &gt;From:=20
>   "[oliver] format" &lt;oliver at cls-crew.com&gt; =
> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;To: =
>
>   &lt;<st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">mohaa at icculus.org</st1:PersonName>&gt; =
>
>   <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
> &gt;Sent: Monday,=20
>   December 06, 2004 8:21 PM <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
> &gt;Subject:=20
>   [mohaa] [mohPA] Linux Bins? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20
>   <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20
>   <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; =
> &gt; Hi=20
>   Maillist, <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; =
> &gt;=20
>   <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; =
> &gt;=20
>   <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; =
> &gt; anyone=20
>   have news about the Linux Version of "Pacific Assault" for dedicated=20
>   <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; =
> &gt; Server?=20
>   <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; =
> &gt;=20
>   <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; =
> &gt;=20
>   <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; =
> &gt; Thx in=20
>   advance, olli aka format <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; =
> &gt;=20
>   <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; =
> &gt;=20
>   <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; =
> &gt;=20
>   <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; =
> &gt;=20
>   <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20
>   <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt; =
> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt; =
> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
> Arial">&gt;--------------------------------------------------------------=
> ----------------=20
>   <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Heb je =
> MSN=20
>   WebMessenger al ontdekt? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR=20
>   clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <DIV class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" =
> align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3DArial=20
>   size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
> Arial">
>   <HR align=3Dcenter width=3D"100%" SIZE=3D2>
>   </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DNL=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A=20
>   href=3D"http://g.msn.com/8HMBNLBE/2749??PS=3D47575" target=3D_top>Is =
> jouw domeinnaam=20
>   nog vrij?</A> =
> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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