[mohaa] ...so...?

[Matrix]

I run all standard 10000 for sv_maxrate since that is the standard for
online tournament play.  10000 is more than the average client transmits
back and forth.  ID Software and Epic have both said anything over about
7000 makes not difference for client performance unless you are on a
LAN.

Even cutting down the sv_maxrate on MOHAA or SH still pushes twice the
out data than in data.  In my honest opinion, the server is way out of
control on the outbound traffic so when you get too many clients, the
server is way over worked on the net code.  ID Software & Epic game
servers all have much more stable out bound data from the server, and
maybe that is why you do not see this same problem on those servers.  I
was just hoping there was a fix to this problem on MOHAA & SH, but I
guess it must be the net code/server code by EA.

Thanks,
Matrix


-----Original Message-----
From: monthos at mx3.org [mailto:monthos at mx3.org] 
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:19 PM
To: mohaa at icculus.org
Subject: RE: [mohaa] ...so...?

well maybe you cut your rates down really low, becouse i always allow
the
max client output rate so that peopel connected get as much client data
as
they need. if you seek less output to clients, lower teh maxrate, but
that
could be the reason your server lags over 20 people, since it cant fit
the
needed data to all the clients past your maxrate settings.

On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Matrix wrote:

> Really?  I have charts for over 200 servers over the past year that we
> host, and all of which have just about an exact IN data vs. OUT data
for
> all games except MOHAA and SH.
>
> Thanks,
> Matrix
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: monthos at mx3.org [mailto:monthos at mx3.org]
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 5:19 PM
> To: mohaa at icculus.org
> Subject: RE: [mohaa] ...so...?
>
> all games servers do that for me. output to users is always greater
than
> there input.
>
> On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Matrix wrote:
>
> > Then what boggles me about this is why does MOHAA and SH do this
when
> > HL, Q3, Q3, Q1, UT, UT2K3, etc... do not do the same thing when
there
> > are 5 players in the same room? :)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Matrix
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: monthos at mx3.org [mailto:monthos at mx3.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 11:36 PM
> > To: mohaa at icculus.org
> > Subject: RE: [mohaa] ...so...?
> >
> > well, if 5 people are in the same room, every client will send only
> > there
> > clients actions, but need to recieve 5 players back, 1 for an
> > aknowledgement that there actions were successfull and the other 4
> > players. so its does seem normal to me anyways that output to
clients
> is
> > greater than input fromt them
> >
> > On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, Matrix wrote:
> >
> > > It may or may not be a linux issue.  I have seen servers out there
> > > pushing 32 and higher clients, and I think most are on windows
> boxes.
> > > We have had people come to our servers and test them out saying
that
> > > Linux is by far smoother than windows, but windows seems to do
> better
> > at
> > > a higher client setting (I.e. above 20)...  No, don't have other
> > systems
> > > running windows that would push MOHAA or SH at 32, they are mainly
> > > Mail/DNS/Web servers.
> > >
> > > It is also weird how MOHAA and SH push twice the data out of the
> > server
> > > to the clients than they receive... LOL...  Our charts were just
> about
> > > equal in and out data until MOHAA & SH came out... hehe...  Is
there
> a
> > > setting to fix that?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Matrix
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ryan C. Gordon [mailto:icculus at clutteredmind.org]
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 4:00 PM
> > > To: mohaa at icculus.org
> > > Subject: RE: [mohaa] ...so...?
> > >
> > >
> > > > When I went to the 4500 to the 6000 range, the server did smooth
> out
> > > > more, but it was still the same activity when it gets above 20
> > > > clients. :(
> > >
> > > My dumb question is: Is this a linux-specific issue? I don't know
if
> > > there's some way to test this on a win32 box where you are.
> > >
> > > --ryan.
> > >
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