AW: AW: AW: [mohaa] Server Requirements, Questions & Traffic

Bradley Caricofe Caricofe at Comcast.net
Thu Aug 21 14:32:38 EDT 2003 

He said he had a single server with 200 IP's on it, I said I hope you aren't
running 200 games on a single server, unless it's a Cray maybe.  =)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eduardo E. Silva [mailto:esilva at silvex.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 2:22 PM
> To: mohaa at icculus.org
> Subject: RE: AW: AW: AW: [mohaa] Server Requirements, Questions &
> Traffic
>
>
> He said he has 200 IPs addresses NOT 200 MOH games...
> Josh Berry said:
> > Running on a P4 2000GHz with 1Tb ram?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bradley Caricofe [mailto:Caricofe at Comcast.net]
> > Sent: 21 August 2003 04:59
> > To: mohaa at icculus.org
> > Subject: RE: AW: AW: AW: [mohaa] Server Requirements, Questions &
> > Traffic
> >
> > Websites I hope!  You guys aren't putting 200 game servers on one
> > machine
> > are you? lol...
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: MOH at digitalnines.com [mailto:MOH at digitalnines.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:43 PM
> >> To: mohaa at icculus.org
> >> Subject: Re: AW: AW: AW: [mohaa] Server Requirements, Questions &
> >> Traffic
> >>
> >>
> >> I have one with 200 :D
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Bradley Caricofe" <Caricofe at Comcast.net>
> >> To: <mohaa at icculus.org>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:29 PM
> >> Subject: RE: AW: AW: AW: [mohaa] Server Requirements, Questions &
> > Traffic
> >>
> >>
> >> > Yehh, I have Red Hat a machine with 16 IP's on it, I can easily
> >> run a MoH
> >> > server on each IP using the same port # each time...
> >> >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: luke [mailto:lsalsich at cox.net]
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 7:15 PM
> >> > > To: mohaa at icculus.org
> >> > > Subject: RE: AW: AW: AW: [mohaa] Server Requirements, Questions &
> >> > > Traffic
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Have you done this? My understanding of Linux is that this
> >> cant work. Of
> >> > > course you have to alias the device to use different IP's on the
> > same
> >> > > NIC. But you cant have multiple processes running on the same port
> > on
> >> > > the same network card, regardless of whether you alias the
> >> IP's. I could
> >> > > be wrong, though......
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: Fredrick Ludden [mailto:luddenf at comcast.net]
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 6:50 PM
> >> > > To: mohaa at icculus.org
> >> > > Subject: RE: AW: AW: AW: [mohaa] Server Requirements, Questions &
> >> > > Traffic
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > You can use the same port on different IPs using one network card
> > by
> >> > > aliasing the device numbers (i.e. eth0 = 192.168.1.1, eth0:1 =
> >> > > 192.168.1.2, etc).
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 18:56, luke wrote:
> >> > > > You cant use the same port on different IP's IF they use the
> > same
> >> > > > Network Card.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From: Joe [mailto:quazimodem at rocketmail.com]
> >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 6:35 PM
> >> > > > To: mohaa at icculus.org
> >> > > > Subject: Re: AW: AW: AW: [mohaa] Server Requirements, Questions
> > &
> >> > > > Traffic
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Can I clarify this?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > So it's possible to have 2 or more IPs on the same PC and have
> > the
> >> > > > SAME port assignments??
> >> > > >
> >> > > > For example:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 192.168.1.10 port 12203
> >> > > > 192.168.1.11 port 12203
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Or do they need to have two different ports?  didn't think
> >> you can use
> >> > >
> >> > > > th same port.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- Anthony Quon <anthonyquon at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > > Also, about the 1 nic issue, you can also bind multiple ips to
> > one
> >> > > > > ethernet interface. So even though you only have one nic, you
> > can
> >> > > have
> >> > > > > multiple ip's
> >> > > > > and of course multiple ports for each of those ips.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > >From: Steve Pirk <orion at deathcon.com>
> >> > > > > >Reply-To: mohaa at icculus.org
> >> > > > > >To: mohaa at icculus.org
> >> > > > > >Subject: Re: AW: AW: AW: [mohaa] Server Requirements,
> > Questions &
> >> > > > > Traffic
> >> > > > > >Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:20:36 -0700 (PDT)
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >Correct. The card should handle 100 Mbits/sec of traffic.
> > That
> >> > > > > >should
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > >be plenty of bandwidth :-)
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >--
> >> > > > > >Steve (egrep)
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, [P$X]Scorpie wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Hi Steve,
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > my sorrow was that it could be a problem if the traffic of
> > 3
> >> > > > > servers
> >> > > > > > > goes over one nic. When ich unserstand right this
> >> would not be a
> >> > > > > problem
> >> > > > > > > ?!
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Regards,
> >> > > > > > > Michael
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, [P$X]Scorpie wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Glad to hear this. At the moment we rent a 20 slot
> >> server @ a
> >> > > > > > > > gameserver hosting company and this will cost ? 99,00 =
> >> > > > > $113,00. And
> >> > > > > > > > we only got the gameserver and a 20 slot voiceserver
> > without
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > option to change the game running on the server. The
> > root
> >> > > > > server we
> >> > > > > > > > are looking for costs ? 95,00 = $108,00 and i think we
> > got a
> >> > > > > bit more
> >> > > > > > > > possibilities with it, running the game we want for
> > example.
> >> > > > > And our
> >> > > > > > > > actual server is not always full with 20 players. There
> > are
> >> > > > > some days
> >> > > > > > > > when about 100 players on the server and some days were
> > only
> >> > > > > 20-30
> >> > > > > > > > players joined it so the traffic included should be
> > enough i
> >> > > > > hope. But
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > there is still another question. Is it possible to
> >> run mohaa,
> >> > > > > sh and
> >> > > > > > > > ts on one machine @ the same time because there is just
> > one
> >> > > > > network
> >> > > > > > > > card ? for example:
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > - 12 slots mohaa
> >> > > > > > > > - 12 slots sh
> >> > > > > > > > - 30 slots voiceserver
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > can this hardware handle this ?
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > - Athlon XP2000+
> >> > > > > > > > - 512MB DDR Ram
> >> > > > > > > > - 80GB HD
> >> > > > > > > > - 1x 100MBit Network Card
> >> > > > > > > > - 4,3 GBit Internet Connection
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Regards,
> >> > > > > > > > Michael
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> > > > > > > > Von: Anthony Quon [mailto:anthonyquon at hotmail.com]
> >> > > > > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. Juli 2003 00:28
> >> > > > > > > > An: mohaa at icculus.org
> >> > > > > > > > Betreff: Re: AW: [mohaa] Server Requirements, Questions
> > &
> >> > > > > Traffic
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > I see, yea, 200 GB sounds alittle better :). However,
> > with a
> >> > > > > > > > 20
> >> > > > > man
> >> > > > > > > > moh or sh server, you may be cutting it close. But
> >> then again,
> >> > > > > it also
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > depends on
> >> > > > > > > > how busy you expect the 20 man to be. You can see how
> > this
> >> > > > > > > > goes
> >> > > > > for a
> >> > > > > > > > month
> >> > > > > > > > or a week to get an estimate of how much u really need.
> > Then
> >> > > > > after
> >> > > > > > > > you've
> >> > > > > > > > estimated approx how much bw you need, you can always
> > make
> >> > > > > certain
> >> > > > > > > days
> >> > > > > > > > private?
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > BTW: how much are you paying for this setup?
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > > > > > Anthony
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >From: "[P$X]Scorpie" <scorpie at psx-player.de>
> >> > > > > > > > >Reply-To: mohaa at icculus.org
> >> > > > > > > > >To: <mohaa at icculus.org>
> >> > > > > > > > >Subject: AW: [mohaa] Server Requirements,
> >> Questions & Traffic
> >> > > > > > > > >Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:06:12 +0200
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >Hi Anthony,
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >it seems as i did not point out exactly. The connection
> >> > > > > bandwith is
> >> > > > > > > > >4.3
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >gigabit and the traffic included is at 200 gigbyte
> >> per month.
> >> > > > > Someone
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >i
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >know had a ts2 server with 100 slots which were nearly
> > full
> >> > > > > every
> >> > > > > > > > >time.
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >And this server produced a traffic of 30-40 gigbyte per
> >> > > > > > > > >month.
> >> > > > > If i
> >> > > > > > > > >take this for example there will be left a maximum of
> > 160
> >> > > > > gigbyte.
> >> > > > > > > > >Are you sure that this won't be enough for a 20 Slots
> > MoHAA
> >> > > > > > > > >or
> >> > > > > SH
> >> > > > > > > > >server ?
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >Regards,
> >> > > > > > > > >Michael
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> > > > > > > > >Von: Anthony Quon [mailto:anthonyquon at hotmail.com]
> >> > > > > > > > >Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. Juli 2003 23:49
> >> > > > > > > > >An: mohaa at icculus.org
> >> > > > > > > > >Betreff: Re: [mohaa] Server Requirements,
> >> Questions & Traffic
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >4.3 GB of xfer isn't going to be enough for the size of
> > the
> >> > > > > server
> >> > > > > > > > >and ts that you're looking for. I believe for the
> > server
> >> > > > > requirements
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >that you said, you're looking at around 300-400 GB of
> >> > > > > bandwidth.
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >From: "[P$X] Scorpie" <scorpie at psx-player.de>
> >> > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: mohaa at icculus.org
> >> > > > > > > > > >To: <mohaa at icculus.org>
> >> > > > > > > > > >Subject: [mohaa] Server Requirements, Questions &
> > Traffic
> >> > > > > > > > > >Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:48:55 +0200
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >Hi Listpeople,
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >our Clan ist thinking about changing over to a
> >> root server.
> >> > > > > Now I
> >> > > > > > > > > >got
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >some questions about that.
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >1. Server Requirements
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >The Server we can get is an Athlon XP2000+,
> >> 512MB DDR RAM,
> >> > > > > 80 GB
> >> > > > > > > > > >HD, 1 NIC, 4.3GB Bandwith. Is this good enough to run
> > a
> >> > > > > MoHAA or SH
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >server wit at least 20 players and a TS2 or Ventrilo
> >> > > > > Voiceserver
> >> > > > > > > > > >with
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >20 or 30
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >slots ? Can i run MoHAA and SH at the same time
> >> because of
> >> > > > > that
> >> > > > > > > > > >there
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >is only one NIC ? I can get 4 IP Adresses. Would
> >> this solve
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > > >problems that can accure with only one NIC ?
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >2. Traffic
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >How many Traffic will a 20 Slots MoHAA or SH
> >> Server produce
> >> > > > > ? Is
> >> > > > > > > > > >there a formula to calculate this ?
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >I would be glad about any answers. Thx.
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >Regards,
> >> > > > > > > > > >Michael
> >> > > > > > > > > >
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