AW: AW: AW: [mohaa] Server Requirements, Questions & Traffic

Eduardo E. Silva esilva at silvex.com
Thu Aug 21 14:21:32 EDT 2003


He said he has 200 IPs addresses NOT 200 MOH games...
Josh Berry said:
> Running on a P4 2000GHz with 1Tb ram?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bradley Caricofe [mailto:Caricofe at Comcast.net]
> Sent: 21 August 2003 04:59
> To: mohaa at icculus.org
> Subject: RE: AW: AW: AW: [mohaa] Server Requirements, Questions &
> Traffic
>
> Websites I hope!  You guys aren't putting 200 game servers on one
> machine
> are you? lol...
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: MOH at digitalnines.com [mailto:MOH at digitalnines.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:43 PM
>> To: mohaa at icculus.org
>> Subject: Re: AW: AW: AW: [mohaa] Server Requirements, Questions &
>> Traffic
>>
>>
>> I have one with 200 :D
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bradley Caricofe" <Caricofe at Comcast.net>
>> To: <mohaa at icculus.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:29 PM
>> Subject: RE: AW: AW: AW: [mohaa] Server Requirements, Questions &
> Traffic
>>
>>
>> > Yehh, I have Red Hat a machine with 16 IP's on it, I can easily
>> run a MoH
>> > server on each IP using the same port # each time...
>> >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: luke [mailto:lsalsich at cox.net]
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 7:15 PM
>> > > To: mohaa at icculus.org
>> > > Subject: RE: AW: AW: AW: [mohaa] Server Requirements, Questions &
>> > > Traffic
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Have you done this? My understanding of Linux is that this
>> cant work. Of
>> > > course you have to alias the device to use different IP's on the
> same
>> > > NIC. But you cant have multiple processes running on the same port
> on
>> > > the same network card, regardless of whether you alias the
>> IP's. I could
>> > > be wrong, though......
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Fredrick Ludden [mailto:luddenf at comcast.net]
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 6:50 PM
>> > > To: mohaa at icculus.org
>> > > Subject: RE: AW: AW: AW: [mohaa] Server Requirements, Questions &
>> > > Traffic
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > You can use the same port on different IPs using one network card
> by
>> > > aliasing the device numbers (i.e. eth0 = 192.168.1.1, eth0:1 =
>> > > 192.168.1.2, etc).
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 18:56, luke wrote:
>> > > > You cant use the same port on different IP's IF they use the
> same
>> > > > Network Card.
>> > > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: Joe [mailto:quazimodem at rocketmail.com]
>> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 6:35 PM
>> > > > To: mohaa at icculus.org
>> > > > Subject: Re: AW: AW: AW: [mohaa] Server Requirements, Questions
> &
>> > > > Traffic
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Can I clarify this?
>> > > >
>> > > > So it's possible to have 2 or more IPs on the same PC and have
> the
>> > > > SAME port assignments??
>> > > >
>> > > > For example:
>> > > >
>> > > > 192.168.1.10 port 12203
>> > > > 192.168.1.11 port 12203
>> > > >
>> > > > Or do they need to have two different ports?  didn't think
>> you can use
>> > >
>> > > > th same port.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --- Anthony Quon <anthonyquon at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > Also, about the 1 nic issue, you can also bind multiple ips to
> one
>> > > > > ethernet interface. So even though you only have one nic, you
> can
>> > > have
>> > > > > multiple ip's
>> > > > > and of course multiple ports for each of those ips.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >From: Steve Pirk <orion at deathcon.com>
>> > > > > >Reply-To: mohaa at icculus.org
>> > > > > >To: mohaa at icculus.org
>> > > > > >Subject: Re: AW: AW: AW: [mohaa] Server Requirements,
> Questions &
>> > > > > Traffic
>> > > > > >Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:20:36 -0700 (PDT)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >Correct. The card should handle 100 Mbits/sec of traffic.
> That
>> > > > > >should
>> > > >
>> > > > > >be plenty of bandwidth :-)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >--
>> > > > > >Steve (egrep)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, [P$X]Scorpie wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Hi Steve,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > my sorrow was that it could be a problem if the traffic of
> 3
>> > > > > servers
>> > > > > > > goes over one nic. When ich unserstand right this
>> would not be a
>> > > > > problem
>> > > > > > > ?!
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Regards,
>> > > > > > > Michael
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, [P$X]Scorpie wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Glad to hear this. At the moment we rent a 20 slot
>> server @ a
>> > > > > > > > gameserver hosting company and this will cost ? 99,00 =
>> > > > > $113,00. And
>> > > > > > > > we only got the gameserver and a 20 slot voiceserver
> without
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > option to change the game running on the server. The
> root
>> > > > > server we
>> > > > > > > > are looking for costs ? 95,00 = $108,00 and i think we
> got a
>> > > > > bit more
>> > > > > > > > possibilities with it, running the game we want for
> example.
>> > > > > And our
>> > > > > > > > actual server is not always full with 20 players. There
> are
>> > > > > some days
>> > > > > > > > when about 100 players on the server and some days were
> only
>> > > > > 20-30
>> > > > > > > > players joined it so the traffic included should be
> enough i
>> > > > > hope. But
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > there is still another question. Is it possible to
>> run mohaa,
>> > > > > sh and
>> > > > > > > > ts on one machine @ the same time because there is just
> one
>> > > > > network
>> > > > > > > > card ? for example:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > - 12 slots mohaa
>> > > > > > > > - 12 slots sh
>> > > > > > > > - 30 slots voiceserver
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > can this hardware handle this ?
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > - Athlon XP2000+
>> > > > > > > > - 512MB DDR Ram
>> > > > > > > > - 80GB HD
>> > > > > > > > - 1x 100MBit Network Card
>> > > > > > > > - 4,3 GBit Internet Connection
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Regards,
>> > > > > > > > Michael
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> > > > > > > > Von: Anthony Quon [mailto:anthonyquon at hotmail.com]
>> > > > > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. Juli 2003 00:28
>> > > > > > > > An: mohaa at icculus.org
>> > > > > > > > Betreff: Re: AW: [mohaa] Server Requirements, Questions
> &
>> > > > > Traffic
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > I see, yea, 200 GB sounds alittle better :). However,
> with a
>> > > > > > > > 20
>> > > > > man
>> > > > > > > > moh or sh server, you may be cutting it close. But
>> then again,
>> > > > > it also
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > depends on
>> > > > > > > > how busy you expect the 20 man to be. You can see how
> this
>> > > > > > > > goes
>> > > > > for a
>> > > > > > > > month
>> > > > > > > > or a week to get an estimate of how much u really need.
> Then
>> > > > > after
>> > > > > > > > you've
>> > > > > > > > estimated approx how much bw you need, you can always
> make
>> > > > > certain
>> > > > > > > days
>> > > > > > > > private?
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > BTW: how much are you paying for this setup?
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > > > > Anthony
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >From: "[P$X]Scorpie" <scorpie at psx-player.de>
>> > > > > > > > >Reply-To: mohaa at icculus.org
>> > > > > > > > >To: <mohaa at icculus.org>
>> > > > > > > > >Subject: AW: [mohaa] Server Requirements,
>> Questions & Traffic
>> > > > > > > > >Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:06:12 +0200
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >Hi Anthony,
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >it seems as i did not point out exactly. The connection
>> > > > > bandwith is
>> > > > > > > > >4.3
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >gigabit and the traffic included is at 200 gigbyte
>> per month.
>> > > > > Someone
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >i
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >know had a ts2 server with 100 slots which were nearly
> full
>> > > > > every
>> > > > > > > > >time.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >And this server produced a traffic of 30-40 gigbyte per
>> > > > > > > > >month.
>> > > > > If i
>> > > > > > > > >take this for example there will be left a maximum of
> 160
>> > > > > gigbyte.
>> > > > > > > > >Are you sure that this won't be enough for a 20 Slots
> MoHAA
>> > > > > > > > >or
>> > > > > SH
>> > > > > > > > >server ?
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >Regards,
>> > > > > > > > >Michael
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> > > > > > > > >Von: Anthony Quon [mailto:anthonyquon at hotmail.com]
>> > > > > > > > >Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. Juli 2003 23:49
>> > > > > > > > >An: mohaa at icculus.org
>> > > > > > > > >Betreff: Re: [mohaa] Server Requirements,
>> Questions & Traffic
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >4.3 GB of xfer isn't going to be enough for the size of
> the
>> > > > > server
>> > > > > > > > >and ts that you're looking for. I believe for the
> server
>> > > > > requirements
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >that you said, you're looking at around 300-400 GB of
>> > > > > bandwidth.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >From: "[P$X] Scorpie" <scorpie at psx-player.de>
>> > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: mohaa at icculus.org
>> > > > > > > > > >To: <mohaa at icculus.org>
>> > > > > > > > > >Subject: [mohaa] Server Requirements, Questions &
> Traffic
>> > > > > > > > > >Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:48:55 +0200
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >Hi Listpeople,
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >our Clan ist thinking about changing over to a
>> root server.
>> > > > > Now I
>> > > > > > > > > >got
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >some questions about that.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >1. Server Requirements
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >The Server we can get is an Athlon XP2000+,
>> 512MB DDR RAM,
>> > > > > 80 GB
>> > > > > > > > > >HD, 1 NIC, 4.3GB Bandwith. Is this good enough to run
> a
>> > > > > MoHAA or SH
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >server wit at least 20 players and a TS2 or Ventrilo
>> > > > > Voiceserver
>> > > > > > > > > >with
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >20 or 30
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >slots ? Can i run MoHAA and SH at the same time
>> because of
>> > > > > that
>> > > > > > > > > >there
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >is only one NIC ? I can get 4 IP Adresses. Would
>> this solve
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > >problems that can accure with only one NIC ?
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >2. Traffic
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >How many Traffic will a 20 Slots MoHAA or SH
>> Server produce
>> > > > > ? Is
>> > > > > > > > > >there a formula to calculate this ?
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >I would be glad about any answers. Thx.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >Regards,
>> > > > > > > > > >Michael
>> > > > > > > > > >
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