[mohaa] Server details

Wed Dec 18 14:47:11 EST 2002

I'm sorry, but I don't really know more of the subject than what
I myself have learned form the attached document.

I can only guess, and my best guess is that you should use 120 for
the whole bandwidth.
I don't know how low you can set this without it becoming an
inconvinience to the players - Any experience, anybody?
Setting a higher rate than your actual bandwidth capacity can
deliver, works probably fine as long as you don't have more
players altogether than the sum of of your max rate allows.

This could explain - my theory only - the problems when server
becomes slow, even though pings are not very high:
When the sum of the players' max rate exeeds your bandwidth,
the server probably tries to deliver more to everyone than it
can - when it can't, it has to wait in order to get the packets
through. The server may stop until all is delivered - maybe just
a delay of some fractals of seconds, but a delay anyway. And
when this keeps repeating...

But as I wrote, this is my theory only. Anybody out there who
_really_ knows? Maybe we'll drop a note to the guys who wrote
the instructions @ mohadmin - if they don't subscribe to this list already.

Heikki
----- Original Message -----
From: "André Rivotti Casimiro" <rivotti at netcabo.pt>
To: <mohaa at icculus.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 8:25 PM
Subject: RE: [mohaa] Server details

> For each server? I have 2.2 Mbits of bandwidth and 10 servers of 12
players.
> How do I calculate this? For each server or using all players (120) as if
> was one big server?
>
> Regards
> André
>
> -----Mensagem original-----
> De: Heikki Kokko [mailto:heikki.kokko at tromso.online.no]
> Enviada: quarta-feira, 18 de Dezembro de 2002 19:17
> Para: mohaa at icculus.org
> Assunto: Re: [mohaa] Server details
>
>
> Don't you guys read the guides @ mohadmin.com?
>
> Source: http://www.mohadmin.com --> Guides --> How to set max rate
> ------------------------------------------------------
> How to set Max rate
>
> The sv_maxrate determines the amount of bandwidth your server uses for
each
> client. To determine the sv_maxrate, use this formula:
> # of clients * sv_maxrate * 8(for 8bits) = upload speed
>
> or
>
> Upload speed / ( # of clients * 8 ) = sv_maxrate
>
> For example, my cable modem downloads at 2mbit/sec. However, it uploads at
> 270kbps/sec. So, if I want to run a server that will host 16 clients I
need
> to set my sv_maxrate to 2100 and my formula will look like this:
> 16 * 2100 * 8 = 268kbps
>
> I would then open the console and type in the following command:
> set sv_maxrate "2100"
>
> In the end, you're trying to get the formula to equal your upload
> capabilities. This can be done by altering either the max clients or the
> sv_maxrate values.
> Follow this formula and your server should run a little better.
>
> Keep in mind that your upload
> speed ( the speed in which you send data back to the internet ) can be
quit
> a
> bit slower then you upload speed ( the speed in which you receive data
from
> the
> internet)
>
> You can use one of many speed test
> site's on the internet.  I would recommend DSLreports.
> Not only can you test your upload
> speed but there are many other test you can run. They even have some
guides
> to
> help you improve your upload and download speeds.
> Check them out at http://www.dslreports.com/stest
>
> Copyright © by MOHadmin.com All Right Reserved.
> Published on: 2002-10-29 (710 reads)
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Source: http://www.mohadmin.com --> Guides --> How to set max rate
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Salsich, Luke" <LJS at protectorgroup.com>
> To: <mohaa at icculus.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:59 PM
> Subject: RE: [mohaa] Server details
>
>
> > I've seen guys who set max_rate to anywhere between 8,000 to 12,000.
Whats
> > the best for a t1 connection? Does it make that much difference?
> >
> > Luke
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Anthony Quon [mailto:anthonyquon at hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:50 PM
> > To: mohaa at icculus.org
> > Subject: RE: [mohaa] Server details
> >
> >
> > Nope it's about 1-1.5 mbps (second) bandwidth usage. I'm pretty sure on
> > this, however it also depends how busy your servers are...the more
people
> on
> >
> > them throughout the day will push more traffic...
> >
> > basically I'm pushing ROUGHLY alittle less than 1T1's bw per server with
> > max_rate set to around 9000 per server.
> >
> > Anthony
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Sander de Hond" <sanderdehond at home.nl>
> > >Reply-To: mohaa at icculus.org
> > >To: <mohaa at icculus.org>
> > >Subject: RE: [mohaa] Server details
> > >Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 16:48:42 +0100
> > >
> > >Hi Anthony,
> > >
> > >Thanks again, i got  more question how many server do u run on that
> system
> > >?
> > >And about the 1-1.5 mb/sec i think that isn't correct, it's less and i
> > >think
> > >it's per minute right ? ;)
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance,
> > >
> > >Sander
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > >Van: Anthony Quon [mailto:anthonyquon at hotmail.com]
> > >Verzonden: dinsdag 17 december 2002 17:28
> > >Aan: mohaa at icculus.org
> > >Onderwerp: RE: [mohaa] Server details
> > >
> > >
> > >Yes, even if you use your own server, you only really need a few files
> from
> > >the moh distribution to get things going..and that only takes about 1.5
> > >Gigs
> > >of disk space. You may or may not be able to run a 20 man server on
your
> > >hardware configurations...I'm not too sure on that. However, each game
> > >instance takes up to about 100Megs of memory outside of whatever else
the
> > >rest of the system is using.
> > >
> > >As far as bandwidth usage...for a 20 man server moderately populated,
> > >you're
> > >probably looking at roughly (very rough estimate) 1-1.5mbps
> > >
> > >Anthony
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Sander de Hond" <sanderdehond at home.nl>
> > > >Reply-To: mohaa at icculus.org
> > > >To: <mohaa at icculus.org>
> > > >Subject: RE: [mohaa] Server details
> > > >Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 17:19:50 +0100
> > > >
> > > >Hi,
> > > >
> > > >Thanks for your responce,
> > > >
> > > >I know wich dirs to install, i've done it before, but we want to use
> our
> > > >own
> > > >server this time.
> > > >You are talking about servers, so it's more then one ? Our goal is to
> > >host
> > > >one public (20 slots) and a website.
> > > >
> > > >And how many datatraffic does your server use ? Or can't you check
that
> ?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks again,
> > > >
> > > >Sander
> > > >
> > > >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > >Van: Anthony Quon [mailto:anthonyquon at hotmail.com]
> > > >Verzonden: dinsdag 17 december 2002 16:57
> > > >Aan: mohaa at icculus.org
> > > >Onderwerp: Re: [mohaa] Server details
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >You don't need all of the directories in order to get a moh server
> > >working.
> > > >For one of my moh instances I am using up 1.5G's of space without any
> > > >mods...of course the size will grow if you are adding mods..but not
by
> > > >much.
> > > >
> > > >As far as min system requirements, I'm not sure on this. I'm running
> this
> > > >off of a dual athlon mp2000 server with 2G's of ram for my public
game
> > > >servers.
> > > >
> > > >Anthony
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Sander de Hond" <sanderdehond at home.nl>
> > > > >Reply-To: mohaa at icculus.org
> > > > >To: "Mohaa" <mohaa at icculus.org>
> > > > >Subject: [mohaa] Server details
> > > > >Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:07:20 +0100
> > > > >
> > > > >Hi guys,
> > > > >
> > > > >I have 2 questions :
> > > > >
> > > > >- How many GB's does a public server need/use ? I thought it was
> around
> > > > >25GB
> > > > >but i'm not sure.
> > > > >
> > > > >- What kinda server do i need to run a proper public server, is a
> > >celeron
> > > > >766Mhz  512Mb good enough ?
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks in advance,
> > > > >
> > > > >Sander
> > > >
> > > >
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