[mohaa] curious behavior

Hajo van Vulpen hajov at home.nl
Wed Aug 7 15:24:35 EDT 2002


The first thing I learned about Linux was that you always have to read
the things that are displayed on your screen.... and with that rule in
mind, setting it up aint that hard....

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: JNagle at franuniv.edu [mailto:JNagle at franuniv.edu] 
Verzonden: woensdag 7 augustus 2002 19:35
Aan: mohaa at icculus.org
Onderwerp: RE: [mohaa] curious behavior


There's Irony....Debian is the developer's choice of Linux and is VERY
stable..however Debian and Slackware are the 2 hardest to setup
:-).....I
definatly would not say easy...

Zaphod
Leader of MOSS



 

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I'm just a n00b concerning BSD and just started my first Linux box only
3 months ago But My Debian box is running smoothly.
The install seems to be just as easy as on BSD (according to Wokka's
mail) and Apt-Get does the upgrading splendid......
Not starting a war but just want to state that there are easy linux
dists just as good as bsd (in my n00bish opinion)

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: charles 'wokka' goldsmith [mailto:wokka at justfamily.org]
Verzonden: woensdag 7 augustus 2002 16:51
Aan: mohaa at icculus.org
Onderwerp: Re: [mohaa] curious behavior

I have to agree, I switched to bsd about 6 months ago and have been
loving
it ever since.  minimal install of freebsd is 70 megs... and can be
easily
installed off 2 floppies and ftp access.  Redhat (one of the many
flavors of
linux) is what I switched from, major bloat, minimal install is like 400
megs, and takes a lot to secure it.

My only complaint about bsd is its top, and I haven't looked into how to
resolve it, on multiprocessor boxes, it doesn't differentiate each cpu's
usage in the summary.

And yes, that's my only complaint of freebsd over redhat :)

ports are a god send, and upgrading is a breeze... can be done very,
very
easily remotely

anyone who is interested in learning more bout bsd, go to freebsd.org,
read
the newbie guide, and the handbook.
and for a comprehensive howto on setting up qmail, imap, vpopmail,
webmail,
and a ton of other features on freebsd, check out
http://matt.simerson.net/computing/mail/toaster/

I know, a bit off topic, sorry Ryan.

wokka

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles "BedMan" Bedford" <bedman at quakecon.org>
To: <mohaa at icculus.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 9:22 AM
Subject: RE: [mohaa] curious behavior


> Depends on the app.  There are positives and negatives for most of the
> operating systems you can find.
>
> Solaris is typically slower than Linux or BSD on PC's, because it's
designed
> for SPARC in general, but also because it's a monolithic kernel and
has a
> great deal of services built into it.
>
> Linux has a lot of support, and is a relatively small footprint for
the
> kernel (in comparison to comercial unix).  The cost for linux is a
strong
> selling point :-p  Also most games these days seem to want to support
linux,
> which is a big bonus.
>
> FreeBSD (and other BSD systems) has a microkernel based architecture
and
is
> even smaller than linux in terms of size - making it even faster.  It
used
> to have a more streamlined TCP/IP stack as well, but I think this has
been
> rectified in the later linux kernels.  File access is typically a
little
> faster with BSD as well, although the statistics I saw on that were
also
> old.
>
> I recently started using BSD, and I've been pleased with how
straightforward
> it is to install and configure. (For someone familiar with various
unix
> flavors)  The ports collection is also a very welcome feature.  Online
> updating (with cvsup) is another selling point - keeping up with
current
> changes to the Kernel and OS utilities always seems to be a challenge
with
> Linux, but BSD seems to have this well in hand.
>
> oops.  I didn't mean to write a book.  Hope that helps :-)
>
> -- Charles
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JNagle at franuniv.edu [mailto:JNagle at franuniv.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 7:58 AM
> To: mohaa at icculus.org
> Subject: Re: [mohaa] curious behavior
>
>
>
> I know they are close but is Unix a lot better than Linux for a
serveR?
> What about Linux vs BSD? Not trying to start a flame war but just
curious
> if one is better than the next for running game servers ONLY....
>
> Zaphod
> Leader of MOSS
>
>
>







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