[mohaa] curious behavior

[Hajo van Vulpen]

Sorry to disapoint you but apt-get update / apt-get upgrade /apt-get -u
dist-upgrade are existing a long time in the Debian Dist right now....
with the dependencies needed it downloads/upgrades all the needs for a
debian box.
Maybe RH is the most used. But the first to get patches.....i doubt it
(correct me with dates if I'm wrong)

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: JNagle at franuniv.edu [mailto:JNagle at franuniv.edu] 
Verzonden: woensdag 7 augustus 2002 19:32
Aan: mohaa at icculus.org
Onderwerp: Re: [mohaa] curious behavior


Yes ,but Up2date checks all your CURRENT software and AUTOMATICALLY
downloads the newest security patches...Red Hat is one of the FIRST
Linux
flavors to get patches.....it is not the best for all reasons needed but
there is no doubt now that Red Hat is th emost widely accepted and used
Linux Flavor...

Jason Nagle
Network Tech
A+ Certified  Service Professional



 

                    "charles

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up2date is ok, but it only updates your existing software installed,
plus
redhat is always way behind on their updates... sometimes weeks on
critical
security holes, and on a production box (not a game server obviously,
well,
for most people) this is unacceptable...

ports on bsd allow you to easily download, compile and install apps...
just
go into the appropriate directory, make install and bam, it downloads
the
current app, checks for dependencies, downloads those dependencies,
installs
them, then compiles your app and installs it... one command...

redhat is seriously missing out with that... i hated going and finding
all
the dependencies when using rpm's...  and compiles were always doubtful,
because of the gcc versions that redhat has been using in 7.x

wokka

----- Original Message -----
From: <JNagle at franuniv.edu>
To: <mohaa at icculus.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 9:47 AM
Subject: RE: [mohaa] curious behavior


>
> Excellent explanation...thanks! One thing to point out to you though
when
> you said:
>
> >he ports collection is also a very welcome feature.  Online
> >updating (with cvsup) is another selling point - keeping up with
current
> >changes to the Kernel and OS utilities always seems to be a challenge
with
> >Linux, but BSD seems to have this well in hand
>
> Red Hat nows offers a service called Up2Date and it AUTOMTICALLY
checks
> daily to make sure you have the latest and greatest software and
security
> patches...its free for one system after that its a small fee per
> machine...not bad.....
>
> Zaphod
> Leader of MOSS
>
>
>
>
>                     "Charles
>                     \"BedMan\"           To:     <mohaa at icculus.org>
>                     Bedford"             cc:
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curious
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>                     08/07/2002
>                     10:22 AM
>                     Please
>                     respond to
>                     mohaa
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>
>
>
>
> Depends on the app.  There are positives and negatives for most of the
> operating systems you can find.
>
> Solaris is typically slower than Linux or BSD on PC's, because it's
> designed
> for SPARC in general, but also because it's a monolithic kernel and
has a
> great deal of services built into it.
>
> Linux has a lot of support, and is a relatively small footprint for
the
> kernel (in comparison to comercial unix).  The cost for linux is a
strong
> selling point :-p  Also most games these days seem to want to support
> linux,
> which is a big bonus.
>
> FreeBSD (and other BSD systems) has a microkernel based architecture
and
is
> even smaller than linux in terms of size - making it even faster.  It
used
> to have a more streamlined TCP/IP stack as well, but I think this has
been
> rectified in the later linux kernels.  File access is typically a
little
> faster with BSD as well, although the statistics I saw on that were
also
> old.
>
> I recently started using BSD, and I've been pleased with how
> straightforward
> it is to install and configure. (For someone familiar with various
unix
> flavors)  The ports collection is also a very welcome feature.  Online
> updating (with cvsup) is another selling point - keeping up with
current
> changes to the Kernel and OS utilities always seems to be a challenge
with
> Linux, but BSD seems to have this well in hand.
>
> oops.  I didn't mean to write a book.  Hope that helps :-)
>
>      -- Charles
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JNagle at franuniv.edu [mailto:JNagle at franuniv.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 7:58 AM
> To: mohaa at icculus.org
> Subject: Re: [mohaa] curious behavior
>
>
>
> I know they are close but is Unix a lot better than Linux for a
serveR?
> What about Linux vs BSD? Not trying to start a flame war but just
curious
> if one is better than the next for running game servers ONLY....
>
> Zaphod
> Leader of MOSS
>
>
>
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