[mohaa] curious behavior

[charles 'wokka' goldsmith]

i've heard a lot of good things about debian, just never got around to
trying it...  i started with slackware, many many moons ago, and then went
to redhat, because of its popularity and abundance of resources found on the
net about it...    after getting fed up with lack of updates from redhat,
and bloat, i started looking for another linux and was talking to people
asking for input...  several guys at work switched our servers there from
redhat to bsd, and combined with the ease of use, I gave it a try on a few
boxes at home...  this hooked me :)

I'm sure debian is good, just have never used it... probably won't now,
unless freebsd makes a huge change that I don't like...  :^)

wokka

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hajo van Vulpen" <hajov at home.nl>
To: <mohaa at icculus.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 10:03 AM
Subject: RE: [mohaa] curious behavior


> I'm just a n00b concerning BSD and just started my first Linux box only
> 3 months ago But My Debian box is running smoothly.
> The install seems to be just as easy as on BSD (according to Wokka's
> mail) and Apt-Get does the upgrading splendid......
> Not starting a war but just want to state that there are easy linux
> dists just as good as bsd (in my n00bish opinion)
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: charles 'wokka' goldsmith [mailto:wokka at justfamily.org]
> Verzonden: woensdag 7 augustus 2002 16:51
> Aan: mohaa at icculus.org
> Onderwerp: Re: [mohaa] curious behavior
>
> I have to agree, I switched to bsd about 6 months ago and have been
> loving
> it ever since.  minimal install of freebsd is 70 megs... and can be
> easily
> installed off 2 floppies and ftp access.  Redhat (one of the many
> flavors of
> linux) is what I switched from, major bloat, minimal install is like 400
> megs, and takes a lot to secure it.
>
> My only complaint about bsd is its top, and I haven't looked into how to
> resolve it, on multiprocessor boxes, it doesn't differentiate each cpu's
> usage in the summary.
>
> And yes, that's my only complaint of freebsd over redhat :)
>
> ports are a god send, and upgrading is a breeze... can be done very,
> very
> easily remotely
>
> anyone who is interested in learning more bout bsd, go to freebsd.org,
> read
> the newbie guide, and the handbook.
> and for a comprehensive howto on setting up qmail, imap, vpopmail,
> webmail,
> and a ton of other features on freebsd, check out
> http://matt.simerson.net/computing/mail/toaster/
>
> I know, a bit off topic, sorry Ryan.
>
> wokka
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charles "BedMan" Bedford" <bedman at quakecon.org>
> To: <mohaa at icculus.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 9:22 AM
> Subject: RE: [mohaa] curious behavior
>
>
> > Depends on the app.  There are positives and negatives for most of the
> > operating systems you can find.
> >
> > Solaris is typically slower than Linux or BSD on PC's, because it's
> designed
> > for SPARC in general, but also because it's a monolithic kernel and
> has a
> > great deal of services built into it.
> >
> > Linux has a lot of support, and is a relatively small footprint for
> the
> > kernel (in comparison to comercial unix).  The cost for linux is a
> strong
> > selling point :-p  Also most games these days seem to want to support
> linux,
> > which is a big bonus.
> >
> > FreeBSD (and other BSD systems) has a microkernel based architecture
> and
> is
> > even smaller than linux in terms of size - making it even faster.  It
> used
> > to have a more streamlined TCP/IP stack as well, but I think this has
> been
> > rectified in the later linux kernels.  File access is typically a
> little
> > faster with BSD as well, although the statistics I saw on that were
> also
> > old.
> >
> > I recently started using BSD, and I've been pleased with how
> straightforward
> > it is to install and configure. (For someone familiar with various
> unix
> > flavors)  The ports collection is also a very welcome feature.  Online
> > updating (with cvsup) is another selling point - keeping up with
> current
> > changes to the Kernel and OS utilities always seems to be a challenge
> with
> > Linux, but BSD seems to have this well in hand.
> >
> > oops.  I didn't mean to write a book.  Hope that helps :-)
> >
> > -- Charles
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: JNagle at franuniv.edu [mailto:JNagle at franuniv.edu]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 7:58 AM
> > To: mohaa at icculus.org
> > Subject: Re: [mohaa] curious behavior
> >
> >
> >
> > I know they are close but is Unix a lot better than Linux for a
> serveR?
> > What about Linux vs BSD? Not trying to start a flame war but just
> curious
> > if one is better than the next for running game servers ONLY....
> >
> > Zaphod
> > Leader of MOSS
> >
> >
> >
>
>