[mohaa] curious behavior

[charles 'wokka' goldsmith]

up2date is ok, but it only updates your existing software installed, plus
redhat is always way behind on their updates... sometimes weeks on critical
security holes, and on a production box (not a game server obviously, well,
for most people) this is unacceptable...

ports on bsd allow you to easily download, compile and install apps...  just
go into the appropriate directory, make install and bam, it downloads the
current app, checks for dependencies, downloads those dependencies, installs
them, then compiles your app and installs it... one command...

redhat is seriously missing out with that... i hated going and finding all
the dependencies when using rpm's...  and compiles were always doubtful,
because of the gcc versions that redhat has been using in 7.x

wokka

----- Original Message -----
From: <JNagle at franuniv.edu>
To: <mohaa at icculus.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 9:47 AM
Subject: RE: [mohaa] curious behavior


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> Excellent explanation...thanks! One thing to point out to you though when
> you said:
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> >he ports collection is also a very welcome feature.  Online
> >updating (with cvsup) is another selling point - keeping up with current
> >changes to the Kernel and OS utilities always seems to be a challenge
with
> >Linux, but BSD seems to have this well in hand
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> Red Hat nows offers a service called Up2Date and it AUTOMTICALLY checks
> daily to make sure you have the latest and greatest software and security
> patches...its free for one system after that its a small fee per
> machine...not bad.....
>
> Zaphod
> Leader of MOSS
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> Depends on the app.  There are positives and negatives for most of the
> operating systems you can find.
>
> Solaris is typically slower than Linux or BSD on PC's, because it's
> designed
> for SPARC in general, but also because it's a monolithic kernel and has a
> great deal of services built into it.
>
> Linux has a lot of support, and is a relatively small footprint for the
> kernel (in comparison to comercial unix).  The cost for linux is a strong
> selling point :-p  Also most games these days seem to want to support
> linux,
> which is a big bonus.
>
> FreeBSD (and other BSD systems) has a microkernel based architecture and
is
> even smaller than linux in terms of size - making it even faster.  It used
> to have a more streamlined TCP/IP stack as well, but I think this has been
> rectified in the later linux kernels.  File access is typically a little
> faster with BSD as well, although the statistics I saw on that were also
> old.
>
> I recently started using BSD, and I've been pleased with how
> straightforward
> it is to install and configure. (For someone familiar with various unix
> flavors)  The ports collection is also a very welcome feature.  Online
> updating (with cvsup) is another selling point - keeping up with current
> changes to the Kernel and OS utilities always seems to be a challenge with
> Linux, but BSD seems to have this well in hand.
>
> oops.  I didn't mean to write a book.  Hope that helps :-)
>
>      -- Charles
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JNagle at franuniv.edu [mailto:JNagle at franuniv.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 7:58 AM
> To: mohaa at icculus.org
> Subject: Re: [mohaa] curious behavior
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> I know they are close but is Unix a lot better than Linux for a serveR?
> What about Linux vs BSD? Not trying to start a flame war but just curious
> if one is better than the next for running game servers ONLY....
>
> Zaphod
> Leader of MOSS
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