From zakk at timedoctor.org  Sun May  5 16:43:42 2002
From: zakk at timedoctor.org (zakk)
Date: 05 May 2002 16:43:42 -0400
Subject: [lgfaq] My TODO
In-Reply-To: <1018922252.17439.4.camel@TARDIS>
References: <1018922252.17439.4.camel@TARDIS>
Message-ID: <1020631423.29633.2.camel@TARDIS>

On Mon, 2002-04-15 at 21:57, zakk wrote:
> Modifying the gamelist.php for lgfaq.php use. 
> I'm finding it to be rather limited, but the short term gains I see of
> having all questions as one newline delimited entry should make it a LOT
> easier on editors and translators. This of course is a problem for us
> using a CVS version without updating it first, and then trying to commit
> only having changes. Thoughts? 
Ok, I've finally done something to this
lgfaq.txt exists and is being worked on, the gameplan is in
cvs/test/gameplan, along with whatever I'm working on at the moment.
-- 
-zakk
DUDE TH%T MADE ME LA{UGH SO HARD I SPL:ORTED 
MILK OU(T MY NOSE AND [B[B[B THE KEYBO{RD
zakk at timedoctor.org



From zakk at timedoctor.org  Tue May  7 03:03:47 2002
From: zakk at timedoctor.org (zakk)
Date: 07 May 2002 03:03:47 -0400
Subject: xmlphpvisualbasicfaq
Message-ID: <1020755028.22994.1.camel@TARDIS>

Treke went ahead and one uppped me,
http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/test/xml/faq.php
-- 
-zakk
DUDE TH%T MADE ME LA{UGH SO HARD I SPL:ORTED 
MILK OU(T MY NOSE AND [B[B[B THE KEYBO{RD
zakk at timedoctor.org



From icculus at clutteredmind.org  Tue May  7 03:43:43 2002
From: icculus at clutteredmind.org (Ryan C. Gordon)
Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 03:43:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [lgfaq] xmlphpvisualbasicfaq
In-Reply-To: <1020755028.22994.1.camel@TARDIS>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33L2.0205070343300.21784-100000@gamehenge.icculus.org>


> Treke went ahead and one uppped me,
> http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/test/xml/faq.php

Hmm...that doesn't suck.

--ryan.





From chunky at icculus.org  Tue May  7 05:00:27 2002
From: chunky at icculus.org (Chunky Kibbles)
Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 05:00:27 -0400
Subject: [lgfaq] xmlphpvisualbasicfaq
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33L2.0205070343300.21784-100000@gamehenge.icculus.org>
References: <1020755028.22994.1.camel@TARDIS> <Pine.LNX.4.33L2.0205070343300.21784-100000@gamehenge.icculus.org>
Message-ID: <20020507090027.GF22418@gamehenge.icculus.org>

On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 03:43:43AM -0400, Ryan C. Gordon wrote:
> 
> > Treke went ahead and one uppped me,
> > http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/test/xml/faq.php
> 
> Hmm...that doesn't suck.

Indeed.
Notes:

1) Needs fields for "things to which this applies". Example:

 <faq>
  <question lang="en">
    Is Chunky annoyed at outrage?
  </question>
  <answer lang="en">
    Blaggle
  </answer>
  <topics lang="all">
    Descent,Joystick
  </topics>
 </faq>

The php then needs a search. Don't know how you're parsing it, haven't
looked at your code. Can't even remember what model PHP used...

The word "descent" is multi-lingual when it's the name of the game.

For such functionality, perhaps we need policies like "leave out
the number of the game, eg, Descent instead of Descent3, and then rip
out the numbers when doing a query"


2) Character sets. I've had really bad experiences with XML being
blown out of the water in the past [most notably, IE has a bit of a
screaming hissy fit sometimes]. My terminal doesn't do foreign
characters in the XML there, so I've no idea what's going on for half
of the screen anyways...

Just a couple of ideas.

Gary (-;


From zakk at timedoctor.org  Tue May  7 05:26:44 2002
From: zakk at timedoctor.org (zakk)
Date: 07 May 2002 05:26:44 -0400
Subject: [lgfaq] xmlphpvisualbasicfaq
In-Reply-To: <20020507090027.GF22418@gamehenge.icculus.org>
References: <1020755028.22994.1.camel@TARDIS>
	<Pine.LNX.4.33L2.0205070343300.21784-100000@gamehenge.icculus.org> 
	<20020507090027.GF22418@gamehenge.icculus.org>
Message-ID: <1020763605.12987.3.camel@TARDIS>

On Tue, 2002-05-07 at 05:00, Chunky Kibbles wrote:
> The word "descent" is multi-lingual when it's the name of the game.
> 
A very good point
> For such functionality, perhaps we need policies like "leave out
> the number of the game, eg, Descent instead of Descent3, and then rip
> out the numbers when doing a query"
> 
This isn't good however, you should always have a space after a name,
and before the iteration. Descent 3, Quake 3, Libelman 12, et cetera.
Besides, the _translator_ needs to decide what gets translated and what
doesn't. 
> Gary (-;
-- 
-zakk
DUDE TH%T MADE ME LA{UGH SO HARD I SPL:ORTED 
MILK OU(T MY NOSE AND [B[B[B THE KEYBO{RD
zakk at timedoctor.org



From chunky at icculus.org  Tue May  7 05:37:43 2002
From: chunky at icculus.org (Chunky Kibbles)
Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 05:37:43 -0400
Subject: [lgfaq] xmlphpvisualbasicfaq
In-Reply-To: <1020763605.12987.3.camel@TARDIS>
References: <1020755028.22994.1.camel@TARDIS> <Pine.LNX.4.33L2.0205070343300.21784-100000@gamehenge.icculus.org> <20020507090027.GF22418@gamehenge.icculus.org> <1020763605.12987.3.camel@TARDIS>
Message-ID: <20020507093743.GH22418@gamehenge.icculus.org>

On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 05:26:44AM -0400, zakk wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-05-07 at 05:00, Chunky Kibbles wrote:
> > The word "descent" is multi-lingual when it's the name of the game.
> > 
> A very good point
> > For such functionality, perhaps we need policies like "leave out
> > the number of the game, eg, Descent instead of Descent3, and then rip
> > out the numbers when doing a query"
> > 
> This isn't good however, you should always have a space after a name,
> and before the iteration. Descent 3, Quake 3, Libelman 12, et cetera.
> Besides, the _translator_ needs to decide what gets translated and what
> doesn't. 

Hmmm. Assumption, there: why do you have a "translator"? Why try to
make the php intelligent? Surely a dumb "does the author say this is
english? then show it to the english guy" would be easier? Or is that
what you mean?

And as far as it goes, if you just heave out the numbers altogether
for internal searching, then it removes a whole world of hurt...
Although I'm not sure if that's entirely wholesome for when someone
explicitly asks for quake3... blaggle. My brain hurts.

Gary (-;


From zakk at timedoctor.org  Tue May  7 05:51:42 2002
From: zakk at timedoctor.org (zakk)
Date: 07 May 2002 05:51:42 -0400
Subject: [lgfaq] xmlphpvisualbasicfaq
In-Reply-To: <20020507093743.GH22418@gamehenge.icculus.org>
References: <1020755028.22994.1.camel@TARDIS>
	<Pine.LNX.4.33L2.0205070343300.21784-100000@gamehenge.icculus.org>
	<20020507090027.GF22418@gamehenge.icculus.org>
	<1020763605.12987.3.camel@TARDIS> 
	<20020507093743.GH22418@gamehenge.icculus.org>
Message-ID: <1020765104.19462.5.camel@TARDIS>

On Tue, 2002-05-07 at 05:37, Chunky Kibbles wrote:
> On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 05:26:44AM -0400, zakk wrote:
> > On Tue, 2002-05-07 at 05:00, Chunky Kibbles wrote:
> > > The word "descent" is multi-lingual when it's the name of the game.
> > > 
> > A very good point
> > > For such functionality, perhaps we need policies like "leave out
> > > the number of the game, eg, Descent instead of Descent3, and then rip
> > > out the numbers when doing a query"
> > > 
> > This isn't good however, you should always have a space after a name,
> > and before the iteration. Descent 3, Quake 3, Libelman 12, et cetera.
> > Besides, the _translator_ needs to decide what gets translated and what
> > doesn't. 
> 
> Hmmm. Assumption, there: why do you have a "translator"? Why try to
> make the php intelligent? Surely a dumb "does the author say this is
> english? then show it to the english guy" would be easier? Or is that
> what you mean?
> 
Have you read my gameplan?
http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/test/gameplan
I really want stuff like topicname-questionname-en.txt
where en is whatever two letter country code speaks whatever language,
seperating the languages.
> And as far as it goes, if you just heave out the numbers altogether
> for internal searching, then it removes a whole world of hurt...
> Although I'm not sure if that's entirely wholesome for when someone
> explicitly asks for quake3... blaggle. My brain hurts.
> 
> Gary (-;
-- 
-zakk
DUDE TH%T MADE ME LA{UGH SO HARD I SPL:ORTED 
MILK OU(T MY NOSE AND [B[B[B THE KEYBO{RD
zakk at timedoctor.org



From zakk at timedoctor.org  Wed May 22 09:48:23 2002
From: zakk at timedoctor.org (zakk)
Date: 22 May 2002 09:48:23 -0400
Subject: Fsck.
Message-ID: <1022075304.29073.2.camel@TARDIS>

Wandered through the i.o awstats today, noticed we were getting lots of
hits to:
http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/loki/q3faq.html
TTimo is still linking to it from zerowing.
Suggestions?
Should we put this one back?
Should we put up a redirect?
I'm leaning towards putting it back, as I know of nowhere else that
hosts it.
-- 
-zakk
zakk at timedoctor.org



From icculus at clutteredmind.org  Wed May 22 10:36:58 2002
From: icculus at clutteredmind.org (Ryan C. Gordon)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 10:36:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [lgfaq] Fsck.
In-Reply-To: <1022075304.29073.2.camel@TARDIS>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33L2.0205221033550.617-100000@gamehenge.icculus.org>


> http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/loki/q3faq.html
> TTimo is still linking to it from zerowing.
> Suggestions?

The lokigames.com domain is hosting their FAQs again, at Scott's
demand^Wrequest. At worst, redirect back to them.

Do we have comparable/better information at this point? I'd be for
continuing to point to a lesser live source than a dead one that's better.

Wherever the final destination is, TTimo can change the link easily enough
at our request, so there shouldn't be a need to redirect.

--ryan.




From zakk at timedoctor.org  Fri May 24 02:12:26 2002
From: zakk at timedoctor.org (zakk)
Date: 24 May 2002 02:12:26 -0400
Subject: TODO for the xml/visualbasic/php
Message-ID: <1022220747.26165.25.camel@TARDIS>

espanol french addition
english updates
-- 
-zakk
zakk at timedoctor.org



From zakk at timedoctor.org  Fri May 24 08:56:51 2002
From: zakk at timedoctor.org (zakk)
Date: 24 May 2002 08:56:51 -0400
Subject: [lgfaq] Fsck.
In-Reply-To: 
	<Pine.LNX.4.33L2.0205221033550.617-100000@gamehenge.icculus.org>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33L2.0205221033550.617-100000@gamehenge.icculus.org>
Message-ID: <1022245012.8155.0.camel@TARDIS>

On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 10:36, Ryan C. Gordon wrote:
> 
> > http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/loki/q3faq.html
> > TTimo is still linking to it from zerowing.
> > Suggestions?
> 
> The lokigames.com domain is hosting their FAQs again, at Scott's
> demand^Wrequest. At worst, redirect back to them.
> 
> Do we have comparable/better information at this point? I'd be for
> continuing to point to a lesser live source than a dead one that's better.
> 
> Wherever the final destination is, TTimo can change the link easily enough
> at our request, so there shouldn't be a need to redirect.
> 
> --ryan.
After checking, it's not there.
faqs.lokigames.com/q3faq.html doesn't exist.
So, I'm going to upload the old copy to our server for now, if I can
find it. 
-- 
-zakk
zakk at timedoctor.org