Actually, distributors can modify their orders at any time. They do not have to accept orders and they can return unopened merchandise. So there is no real monitory gain as you surmise. Activision has not weighed in on this, just IW. Activision may veto or force a change depending on the retail loss estimates. Even then, ATVI may order IW to abandon pc development, which is what I think this is all about anyway.<br>
<br>John<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 2:29 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stevetm001@blueyonder.co.uk">stevetm001@blueyonder.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
"Did IQ's just drop suddenly while I was away?"<br>
<br>
I do love that film.... once of my fav's<br>
<br>
Anyway, my point....<br>
<br>
The large multiples, the distributors and sub distributors, and large<br>
retailers will have already commited to purchase X amount of copies... so<br>
Actismart will already be lining up for a very large influx of cash.....<br>
<br>
Probably left it this late in the day before anouncing the crippled PC<br>
version so they don't get that many companies canceling.<br>
<br>
So they don't care that you will cancel your order.... Its the companies<br>
who have committed to purchasing them that will loose out.... (suppose<br>
Actismart will loose out in the long run... as in... on the next<br>
release.... )<br>
<br>
The good news for us... if you can call it good news.... is that they<br>
won't sell half as many PC versions (just a guess) as they would have, and<br>
drop the price to shift the ones they have left sooner that they would<br>
otherwise.<br>
<br>
(Background about me) (just so you know where i'm coming from)<br>
<br>
I used to play and purchase I hasten to add C64 and Amiga games.... wasted<br>
countless £'s on crap games only to be played once.<br>
<br>
Haven't really played that many games on the PC until just about 2 years<br>
ago when a friend got me to buy COD4... and loved the multiplayer gaming<br>
experience... Never got past level 3 of the single player mode ... not<br>
interested ...<br>
<br>
I pre-ordered COD:WAW and played it 3 times before throwing to the back of<br>
my cupboard... Bought Left 4 Dead, its still in its wrapper never opened.<br>
<br>
I purchase a server from a company so I can play with my friends, I leave<br>
the server open so anyone can play with very few rules... no cheating, no<br>
bad language, and have had over 20,000 players according to gametracker...<br>
and my RCON has tracked over 13000 unique GUIDs... in 6 or 7 months.<br>
<br>
So... yes it pissed me off to say the least that it won't be multiplayer<br>
like COD4 <cry cry sob sob> but thats life... Get over it, stop<br>
complaining and put your efforts into something more productive :)<br>
<br>
I will be looking at the open source route... didn't really know their was<br>
one, never really looked... but I am a programmer who has come to love<br>
modding cod4.... (trying to mod cod4) if their were only more infomation<br>
to help beginners...<br>
<br>
So open souce here I come.<br>
<br>
Hope to see you their :)<br>
<br>
So long and thanks for all the fish ;)<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Steve<br>
[ACS] Cobra<br>
<br>
ps I'm not actually leaving this group, I find it so informative and<br>
entertaining :)<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> "Still, its nice of them to abandon the group of people who would have<br>
> still been playing the game in a years time, in favour of the others,<br>
> who buy the game play for a week then toss it to the back of the<br>
> cupboard and forget about it."<br>
><br>
> They don't care if someone buys it and slings it in the cupboard after a<br>
> week. They got the money for it so they won't give to flying fucks.<br>
><br>
> O well they won't be getting any more money from me.<br>
><br>
> Martin H wrote:<br>
>> "Again and again during our conversation, West and Zampella hammer the<br>
>> point that hardcore PC players lose very little to this change<br>
>> relative to the returns that casual to moderate fans will see."<br>
>><br>
>> If masses and masses of small, laggy, badly run servers is a 'return',<br>
>> then i guess he's absolutely right.<br>
>><br>
>> Still, its nice of them to abandon the group of people who would have<br>
>> still been playing the game in a years time, in favour of the others,<br>
>> who buy the game play for a week then toss it to the back of the<br>
>> cupboard and forget about it.<br>
>><br>
>> 2009/10/20 Joker{eXtreme+} <<a href="mailto:joker@mycallofduty.com">joker@mycallofduty.com</a><br>
</div>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:joker@mycallofduty.com">joker@mycallofduty.com</a>>><br>
<div class="im">>><br>
>> Confirmation that they are still NOT going to put in Dedi Server<br>
>> support.<br>
>><br>
>> I'm done. Thank you all and have a good life.<br>
>><br>
>> ~Joker<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Einar S. Idsų"<br>
</div>>> <<a href="mailto:einar.cod@norsk-esport.no">einar.cod@norsk-esport.no</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:einar.cod@norsk-esport.no">einar.cod@norsk-esport.no</a>>><br>
<div class="im">>> To: "Call of Duty server admin list." <<a href="mailto:cod@icculus.org">cod@icculus.org</a><br>
</div>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:cod@icculus.org">cod@icculus.org</a>>><br>
<div class="im">>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:32 AM<br>
>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [cod] Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2 on the PC<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Just out: Official Infinity Ward response to #MW2 PC players<br>
>> <a href="http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2009/10/20/modern-warfare-2-dedicated-server-response.aspx" target="_blank">http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2009/10/20/modern-warfare-2-dedicated-server-response.aspx</a><br>
>><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>> Einar<br>
>><br>
>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:12 PM, escapedturkey<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com">escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com</a><br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="h5">>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com">escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Wouldn't it best to offer both?<br>
>><br>
>> IW.net and dedicated servers as an option?<br>
>><br>
>> That way they can see by the statistics which is the preferred<br>
>> mode of game<br>
>> play.<br>
>><br>
>> Schlup wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Yes fake, was there really any doubt?<br>
>><br>
>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> From: Mavrick [mailto:<a href="mailto:mavrick.master@gmail.com">mavrick.master@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mavrick.master@gmail.com">mavrick.master@gmail.com</a>>] Sent: Tuesday, October<br>
>> 20,<br>
>> 2009 7:42 AM<br>
>> To: Call of Duty server admin list.<br>
>> Subject: Re: [cod] Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2 on<br>
>> the PC<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> <a href="http://www.a2kclan.com/blog.htm?a=&nid=407927B7-640B-49AE-AD32-B162A0A3049E" target="_blank">http://www.a2kclan.com/blog.htm?a=&nid=407927B7-640B-49AE-AD32-B162A0A3049E</a><br>
>> <<a href="http://www.a2kclan.com/blog.htm?a=&nid=407927B7-640B-49AE-AD32-B162A0A3049E" target="_blank">http://www.a2kclan.com/blog.htm?a=&nid=407927B7-640B-49AE-AD32-B162A0A3049E</a>><br>
>><br>
>> fake?<br>
>><br>
>> Richard GrosJean wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> 120k signatures to go until it reaches the famed<br>
>> Starcraft 2 LAN petition<br>
>> status.<br>
>><br>
>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Mavrick Master<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:mavrick.master@gmail.com">mavrick.master@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mavrick.master@gmail.com">mavrick.master@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mavrick.master@gmail.com">mavrick.master@gmail.com</a><br>
</div></div><div class="im">>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mavrick.master@gmail.com">mavrick.master@gmail.com</a>>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> 84884 Total Signatures and counting...<br>
>><br>
>> **grabs another popcorn**<br>
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