They won&#39;t screw this up again if the response is appropriate.<div><br></div><div>If PC guys don&#39;t buy this game, and the COD4 numbers hold, then I think they&#39;ll have the test case to a) release a dedi or b) just drop PC all together.</div>

<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:31 PM, RaBBiT <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rabbit@4mori.biz">rabbit@4mori.biz</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">







<div bgcolor="#ffffff">
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">I&#39;ve always wanted to move to Valve, but only the 
real COD community can make a real source mod that feels like a cod 
game.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Btw a PC game like cod or coduo...</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Time will tell, i&#39;ll be glad to map on that 
project.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Otherwise DICE might make the GOTY on PC with 
BFBC2.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">PS: What about Treyarch? will they screw things up 
next year?</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Rabbit</font></div>
<blockquote style="border-left:#000000 2px solid;padding-left:5px;padding-right:0px;margin-left:5px;margin-right:0px"><div class="im">
  <div style="font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
  <div style="font:10pt arial;background:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b> 
  <a title="wizz220@gmail.com" href="mailto:wizz220@gmail.com" target="_blank">Seth Sauls</a> 
  </div>
  <div style="font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="cod@icculus.org" href="mailto:cod@icculus.org" target="_blank">Call of Duty server admin list.</a> </div>
  </div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:27 
  PM</div>
  <div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cod] Sorry have to vent, 
  Modern Warfare 2 on the PC</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>I say that a group of community modders and mappers gets together and 
  starts a &quot;source&quot; mod.  Call it MW2:Source or something like that.</div>
  <div> </div>
  <div>Make it badass and build it off the source engine.  Make the maps 
  exactly like in MW2, models and all.  Then for a map pack make the stock 
  cod4 maps/models and so on.</div>
  <div> </div>
  <div>What do you all say....</div>
  <div> </div>
  <div>Wizz<br><br></div>
  <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Josh Luthman <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:iam8up@gmail.com" target="_blank">iam8up@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> 
  wrote:<br>
  <blockquote style="border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Did anyone think that maybe they&#39;re trying to take away 
    Halo 3 players?<br><br>On 10/20/09, Lars Vik &lt;<a href="mailto:lars@3056.net" target="_blank">lars@3056.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; 
    Hi,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I have both xbox 360 and PS3, but use the consoles 
    mainly for ...well...<br>&gt; console games. Like racing games, Rockband 
    etc. But is it really<br>&gt; possible to play FPS on console? I have tried 
    misc FPS demos and so on,<br>&gt; but I find it hopeless. Clearly, if the 
    majority of CoD players are on<br>&gt; console, i must have missed 
    something? I.e. can you get keyboard/mouse<br>&gt; to xbox 360? They aren&#39;t 
    seriously using the hand controller/joystick?<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I am also a 
    bit surprised IW are selling more of a FPS game to console<br>&gt; than to 
    PC. I can&#39;t help but thing that I am getting old or something<br>&gt; like 
    that. That I am out of the loop so to speak.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; 
    Hmmm....<br>&gt;<br>&gt; John Kennington wrote:<br>&gt;&gt; There was a 
    group of modders that tried that and succeeded, somewhat.<br>&gt;&gt; Red 
    Oktober is a mod and is a decent game, however it is far to<br>&gt;&gt; 
    realistic for the casual player.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; 
    John<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 2:49 PM, 
    escapedturkey<br>&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com" target="_blank">escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com</a><br>&gt;&gt; 
    &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com" target="_blank">escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com</a>&gt;&gt; 
    wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;     Tough to say. I think the mod 
    community, if combining forces, can<br>&gt;&gt;     make any game 
    engine or mod run better, faster, and more fun.<br>&gt;&gt;     
    Faith in the community. For open-source, my vote goes to:<br>&gt;&gt;   
      <a href="http://xreal-project.net/" target="_blank">http://xreal-project.net</a> -- based on 
    IOQuake3.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;     However, even IOQuake3 will 
    do:<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;     <a href="http://ioquake3.org/" target="_blank">http://ioquake3.org</a><br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;     
    Enuff of my rambling ...<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;     Martin H 
    wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;         Problem with the 
    source engine is its not so good at making a<br>&gt;&gt;     
        game like CoD, of all the mods i&#39;ve played to date the 
    only<br>&gt;&gt;         one that had potential imo was 
    Insurgency. Which although fun,<br>&gt;&gt;         
    didnt come close to the gameplay of CoD<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;   
          I just dont think the source engine is cut out for a 
    game like<br>&gt;&gt;         cod. come to think of it 
    though, i cant think of anything that<br>&gt;&gt;       
      is...<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;         One of the 
    gripes i have with the system they intend on using<br>&gt;&gt;     
        is, if the matchmaking system always puts you against 
    people<br>&gt;&gt;         at your skill level, how is a 
    player meant to progress? i&#39;ve<br>&gt;&gt;         
    always found the best way to improve is to be subjected to<br>&gt;&gt; 
            repeated raping. If IWNet dumps you with players 
    on your<br>&gt;&gt;         level, you just wont 
    improve.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;         It says its 
    done on &quot;skill level&quot;. How is a skill level<br>&gt;&gt;       
      determined? Average KD ratio? if thats the case, players 
    will<br>&gt;&gt;         be flying up and down the skill 
    rankings every time they have<br>&gt;&gt;         a 
    bad/good day. If a player is doing particularly well on a<br>&gt;&gt;   
          certain day, their KD ratio would increase. But the 
    next day,<br>&gt;&gt;         if they&#39;re back to 
    &#39;normal&#39; levels, they&#39;ll be way out of<br>&gt;&gt;       
      their depth. Or vice versa. quite easy to have a bad day, 
    and<br>&gt;&gt;         then find yourself on a server 
    with people way below your<br>&gt;&gt;         actual 
    skill rating.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;         &quot;The 
    biggest benefit of using IWnet by far is the fact that<br>&gt;&gt;   
          you don’t have to worry about joining a server full 
    of<br>&gt;&gt;         aim-bots, wallhacks, or cheaters. 
    Or relying on the server<br>&gt;&gt;         admin of 
    the server to constantly be monitoring, banning, and<br>&gt;&gt;   
          policing it.&quot;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;     
        Yeah, thats great until theres an admin that isnt 100% 
    clued<br>&gt;&gt;         up on banning people, and 
    theres a guy on the server who&#39;s<br>&gt;&gt;         
    name is changing every two seconds. Its going to be no<br>&gt;&gt;   
          different than a CoD4 server in 
    reality.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;         Surely the 
    better way to get rid of cheating would be to seal<br>&gt;&gt;     
        up all the holes that allow these hacks to be created in 
    the<br>&gt;&gt;         first 
    place?<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;         2009/10/20 
    Joker{eXtreme+} &lt;<a href="mailto:joker@mycallofduty.com" target="_blank">joker@mycallofduty.com</a><br>&gt;&gt; 
            &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:joker@mycallofduty.com" target="_blank">joker@mycallofduty.com</a>&gt; 
    &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:joker@mycallofduty.com" target="_blank">joker@mycallofduty.com</a><br>&gt;&gt; 
            &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:joker@mycallofduty.com" target="_blank">joker@mycallofduty.com</a>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; 
               Another post by Bowling<br>&gt;&gt; 
               <a href="http://www.fourzerotwo.com/?p=745" target="_blank">http://www.fourzerotwo.com/?p=745</a><br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; 
              
     ~Joker<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;         
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            &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com" target="_blank">escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com</a>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; 
               &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com" target="_blank">escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com</a><br>&gt;&gt; 
            &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com" target="_blank">escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com</a>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; 
               To: &quot;Call of Duty server admin 
    list.&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:cod@icculus.org" target="_blank">cod@icculus.org</a><br>&gt;&gt; 
            &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:cod@icculus.org" target="_blank">cod@icculus.org</a>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;   
             &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:cod@icculus.org" target="_blank">cod@icculus.org</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:cod@icculus.org" target="_blank">cod@icculus.org</a>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; 
               Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 
    11:06 AM<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;           
     Subject: Re: [cod] Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2 on<br>&gt;&gt; 
            the PC<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; 
               Best thing to do is start with the 
    mod makers in that first<br>&gt;&gt;         
    interview.<br>&gt;&gt;            Have them 
    get together with a single purpose &quot;make or mod an<br>&gt;&gt;     
           alternative&quot;.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;   
             Valve offers great 
    support:<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; <a href="http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Building_Mods_with_Valve_Technology" target="_blank">http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Building_Mods_with_Valve_Technology</a><br>

&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; 
               :)<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;   
             Bong-Master wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; 
                   broken record Lmfto 
    no just a long record lol any how,<br>&gt;&gt;         
    how &amp;<br>&gt;&gt;               
     were do you<br>&gt;&gt;             
       start ?<br>&gt;&gt;             
       --------------------------------------------------<br>&gt;&gt; 
                   From: &quot;escapedturkey&quot; 
    &lt;<a href="mailto:escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com" target="_blank">escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com</a><br>&gt;&gt; 
            &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com" target="_blank">escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com</a>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; 
                   &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com" target="_blank">escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com</a><br>&gt;&gt; 
            &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com" target="_blank">escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com</a>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; 
                   Sent: Tuesday, 
    October 20, 2009 6:55 PM<br>&gt;&gt;           
         To: &quot;Call of Duty server admin list.&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:cod@icculus.org" target="_blank">cod@icculus.org</a><br>&gt;&gt;     
        &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:cod@icculus.org" target="_blank">cod@icculus.org</a>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;   
                 &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:cod@icculus.org" target="_blank">cod@icculus.org</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:cod@icculus.org" target="_blank">cod@icculus.org</a>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; 
                   Subject: Re: [cod] 
    Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2<br>&gt;&gt;         
    on the PC<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;             
           Exactly. I don&#39;t see why this can&#39;t be done via 
    the<br>&gt;&gt;         Source<br>&gt;&gt;     
                   engine or<br>&gt;&gt; 
                       other 
    means. All the weapons, game play, and such<br>&gt;&gt;       
      can be<br>&gt;&gt;               
         replicated.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;       
                 Valve shows a lot of 
    support, has VAC, dedicated Linux<br>&gt;&gt;         
               binares, 
    etc.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;             
           Anyhow, I am sounding like a broken record. 
    :)<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;               
         Hannu Kumpeli wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;   
                        
     Lets put the money together from the 100,000+<br>&gt;&gt;   
          signatures<br>&gt;&gt;         
                   and let 
    some<br>&gt;&gt;                 
           company make us the game we want with 
    DEDI<br>&gt;&gt;         SUPPORT 
    :D<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;               
                 Let&#39;s go open-source or 
    Source engine! :)<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;           
                     As I listened 
    to the interview most of the<br>&gt;&gt;         
    people<br>&gt;&gt;                 
               talking were<br>&gt;&gt;   
                          
       modders. Can&#39;t they all come together and do a<br>&gt;&gt; 
                          
         Source mod or open<br>&gt;&gt;       
                        
     source project?<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;         
                       I&#39;m 
    sure a Source engine mod would work<br>&gt;&gt;         
    quite well.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;           
                     Source and 
    open-source aren&#39;t the same, for<br>&gt;&gt;         
    anyone<br>&gt;&gt;                 
               confused. 
    :)<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;               
                 Joker{eXtreme+} 
    wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;             
                      
     Confirmation that they are still NOT<br>&gt;&gt;       
      going to<br>&gt;&gt;               
                     put in Dedi 
    Server<br>&gt;&gt;                 
                  
     support.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;           
                        
     I&#39;m done.  Thank you all and have a<br>&gt;&gt;     
        good life.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;         
                          
     ~Joker<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;         
                          
     ----- Original Message ----- From:<br>&gt;&gt;       
      &quot;Einar S. Idsø&quot;<br>&gt;&gt;           
                        
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             To: &quot;Call of Duty server admin 
    list.&quot;<br>&gt;&gt;                 
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             Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:32 
    AM<br>&gt;&gt;                 
                   Subject: Re: [cod] 
    Sorry have to vent,<br>&gt;&gt;         
    Modern<br>&gt;&gt;                 
                   Warfare 2 on the 
    PC<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;           
                        
     Just out: Official Infinity Ward<br>&gt;&gt;       
      response to<br>&gt;&gt;             
                       #MW2 PC 
    players<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; <a href="http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2009/10/20/modern-warfare-2-dedicated-server-response.aspx" target="_blank">http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2009/10/20/modern-warfare-2-dedicated-server-response.aspx</a><br>

&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; 
                          
             Cheers,<br>&gt;&gt;       
                          
       Einar<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;         
                          
     On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:12 PM,<br>&gt;&gt;       
      escapedturkey<br>&gt;&gt;             
                       &lt;<a href="mailto:escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com" target="_blank">escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com</a><br>&gt;&gt; 
            &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com" target="_blank">escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com</a>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; 
                          
             &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com" target="_blank">escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com</a><br>&gt;&gt; 
            &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com" target="_blank">escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com</a>&gt;&gt;&gt; 
    wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;             
                          
     Wouldn&#39;t it best to offer both?<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;     
                          
             IW.net and dedicated servers as 
    an<br>&gt;&gt;         option?<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; 
                          
                 That way they can see by the 
    statistics<br>&gt;&gt;               
                        
     which is the preferred<br>&gt;&gt;           
                          
       mode of game<br>&gt;&gt;           
                          
       play.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;         
                          
         Schlup wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;     
                          
                 Yes fake, was there really 
    any<br>&gt;&gt;         doubt?<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; 
                          
                     -----Original 
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       From: Mavrick<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;       
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     Tuesday,<br>&gt;&gt;               
                          
       October 20,<br>&gt;&gt;           
                          
           2009 7:42 AM<br>&gt;&gt;       
                          
               To: Call of Duty server admin 
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     Subject: Re: [cod] Sorry have<br>&gt;&gt;         
    to vent,<br>&gt;&gt;                 
                          
     Modern Warfare 2 on the 
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&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; 
                          
                    
     fake?<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;           
                          
           Richard GrosJean wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; 
                          
                        
     120k signatures to go until it<br>&gt;&gt;         
                          
                 reaches the famed 
    Starcraft<br>&gt;&gt;         2 LAN<br>&gt;&gt;   
                          
                      
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                     On Tue, Oct 
    20, 2009 at<br>&gt;&gt;         8:21 AM,<br>&gt;&gt; 
                          
                        
     Mavrick Master<br>&gt;&gt;             
                          
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     wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;           
                          
               84884 Total Signatures 
    and<br>&gt;&gt;         
    counting...<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;           
                          
               **grabs another 
    popcorn**<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; 
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