This is not a bug... it's a deliberated choice they made themself without even asking to the GSP what they think about that...<br><br>Seriosly... till now they just "sopported" us no... SUPPORTED.... they just released linux dedi because many ppl were asking for them.... and there wouldn't be so many dedicated gameservers up without linux binaries....<br>
<br>I can understand the piracy problem.... steam can help solving that........ but what's the point in removing dedicated servers??? most of the succesfull steam games have linux binaries you can download and put up completly for free (and with no delay from the release date!) via steam!!!<br>
<br>will see what will happens... but currently the best things to do IMHO is to support ourself and not IW... we need to keep selling gameservers... if a game needs no gameservers we have absolutely no interest in helping/supporting it...<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 2:33 PM, escapedturkey <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com">escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
It's not what said but rather how it's said. Boycotts, flaming, and the constant bashing of the developer doesn't help anyone. It wouldn't surprise me if this is the reaction -- they boycott us now. Reporting bugs and issues in a civilized manner is the best approach. Praising them for good works is also helpful. I'm not saying to "kiss butt", however I am saying that being respectful goes a long way. I remember speaking to Mr. Zampella years ago (via Gamespy Arcade) and he was expressing frustration with the approach many give when reporting issues -- the constant yelling, flaming, and anger. He stated they react more positively to encouraging bug reports and ones that are approached intelligently.<br>
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As to premium support, you don't have to buy the game to host a server for it. The dedicated servers don't cost us anything to run. Linux support is even "more free" due to the fact that the Linux OS doesn't require a license. IW isn't requiring royalties from each GSP running a server.<div>
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Matt | Pointy BestGN wrote:<br>
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The problem isn't in the complaining, because all the complaints are<br>
justified: promises broken, one after the other... should we simply stand by<br>
and pat them on the back and say 'it's ok'?<br>
farrrk that!<br>
<br>
We pay a premium price for game releases these days, and in doing so should<br>
get a premium product, not one that limits your MP experience to a users<br>
home connection as the proposed IWnet bullshit does.<br>
<br>
What moron at IW sat there and said 'Hey, I think the PC community needs<br>
this (IW net)'<br>
<br>
Interviews and balls of steel aside... IW needs a bullet!<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: escapedturkey [mailto:<a href="mailto:escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com" target="_blank">escapedturkey@escapedturkey.com</a>] Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 11:03 PM<br>
To: Call of Duty server admin list.<br>
Subject: Re: [cod] Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2 on the PC<br>
<br>
<br>
I'm wondering if this is IW's reaction to a lot complaining about late Linux binaries, lack of support, etc. I've been concerned about all the complaining because sometimes a developer will just go "Forget this, too much hassle, not worth all the complaining to income ratio" and simply focus on console only and/or drop said community entirely. I've seen developers forums such down due to too much complaining (see Raven Software). I understand that we pay for a product and want the best support possible, but all jeers and no cheers may turn the developer off from our communities.<br>
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Marco Padovan wrote:<br>
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finally it happened.<br>
<br>
LOL @ to the ppl who said support ryan, support IW.... that's how they are thanking you!!!<br>
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Now everybody (league admins included) have to do their best to hold people on OLD cod releases (cod4 mainly) so that NOBODY will play on their damn <a href="http://iw.net" target="_blank">iw.net</a> <<a href="http://iw.net" target="_blank">http://iw.net</a>> crap.....<br>
<br>
we will see how much GSP couted on making a game succesfull!!!<br>
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On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Richard GrosJean <<a href="mailto:richard.grosjean@gmail.com" target="_blank">richard.grosjean@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:richard.grosjean@gmail.com" target="_blank">richard.grosjean@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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What a joke. This can't be happening.<br>
<br>
/signed the petition.<br>
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On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 12:19 PM, pet <<a href="mailto:games@maxrate.pl" target="_blank">games@maxrate.pl</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:games@maxrate.pl" target="_blank">games@maxrate.pl</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
so do I<br>
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Georgecooldude pisze:<br>
<br>
Isn't 402 going to get in trouble for announcing this?<br>
I've added my name to that petition.<br>
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On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 8:21 AM, l8rg8r <<a href="mailto:l8rg8r@gmail.com" target="_blank">l8rg8r@gmail.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:l8rg8r@gmail.com" target="_blank">l8rg8r@gmail.com</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:l8rg8r@gmail.com" target="_blank">l8rg8r@gmail.com</a><br>
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flashbacks of sof3, make it stop<br>
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Schlup wrote:<br>
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I couldn't agree more and you make a VERY valid<br>
point. There<br>
is a petition started up, maybe it will make it to over<br>
100,000 signed, that would really make them rethink<br>
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their<br>
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decision. You can find it here and tell everybody you<br>
know to<br>
sign it.<br>
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<a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?dedis4mw" target="_blank">http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?dedis4mw</a><br>
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Thanks,<br>
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*Subject:* Re: [cod] Sorry have to vent, Modern<br>
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<br>
The IW forms have gone mad about this, and rightly so.<br>
<br>
I hope they realise what a huge mistake no dedicated<br>
server is<br>
and fix it BEFORE release.<br>
<br>
Delay the game if they have to, but release without a<br>
dedicated server and as rightly mentioned on that<br>
cast, they<br>
should rename it to Airborne 2 as its going to fail<br>
just as badly.<br>
<br>
Do they really not realise that you need a dedicated<br>
server to<br>
ensure good performance, I mean seriously?<br>
<br>
Yer play around with noddy console like match making<br>
systems<br>
which never work as well as the standard server<br>
browser, if<br>
you have to, but FTLOG do so with a dedicated server<br>
backing<br>
it up; so at least people don't suffer because of<br>
crappy hosts<br>
and lack of bandwidth. Its not like a PC release can<br>
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guarantee the CPU performance of a host, like<br>
consoles can due<br>
to their standardisation.<br>
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Steve<br>
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