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<pre wrap="">Interesting. How many VEs did the ESX host run? If it only ran one, then
it sounds quite okay, but if it ran one for each server, then I am very
impressed! Not only does the host have to task-switch between each server
in the VEs, it also has to switch between each VE.
When it comes to L4D, it runs at a pretty low server-FPS of ~30, and it
is generally not a game where accuracy at high speeds is important. So L4D
doesn't require the same real-time performance as e.g CSS. COD4 I don't
know and currently can't check the tick-rate of, but I imagine it is
significantly lower than 100, making it also less dependent on RT-performance.
Wonder how 100 tick (by config) CSS servers would fare on a host with 8
cores and 8 VEs...
Cheers,
Einar</pre>
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Rick Payton wrote:
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VMware ESX and ESXi environment. the ESXi setup is only pushing a
single 14 player game server, but I used the ESX host to push 8 Left 4
Dead servers, as well as the COD4 and about 5 other steam based
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<hr tabindex="-1"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> "Einar S.
idsø" [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:einar.cod@norsk-esport.no">mailto:einar.cod@norsk-esport.no</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 08, 2009 7:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cod@icculus.org">cod@icculus.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cod] Mmmm... cores<br>
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Do virtual servers actually work well with game-servers? We use virtual
servers for<br>
a lot of things, but for our game servers we use only pure physical
hosts. I would<br>
think that real-time properties, which are quite important for
game-servers as<br>
opposed to webservers, sql-servers and mailservers, would be quite poor
for <br>
virtualised servers.<br>
<br>
Which virtualisation solutions have proven to work for past-paced
games? And is<br>
there a certain trick to setting them up, such as binding a virtual
server to a single<br>
core?<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Einar<br>
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size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Each game server, as far as I
know will only use a single core so virtual is what this bad boy was
made for. <span> </span></span></font><font face="Wingdings"><span
style="font-family: Wingdings;"><span>J</span></span></font> This
machine in our environment running Linux game servers, we would be able
to run 40-50 game servers on this single box! Currently we run 6-10
windows servers on a single dual core xeon w/8gigs of ram. Remember
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