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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>My 2 cents, I am on this list for help and
news about the Linux bin’s, but with all the “No Word” I have to say that maybe
they are not going to release any. Maybe MS really has stopped the Linux side.
I mean, there is no bin’s for halo so why would they allow it on any other of
their games. I am not sure of their stake in this company, but to get there
logo on the side of the box I would say it is substantial.</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Stirring the pot, but maybe it will drum
up some word on what is going one!</span></font><font color=black><span
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Geoff Goas
[mailto:gitman@gmail.com]<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January 14, 2009
5:34 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> cod@icculus.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cod] COD:WaW - Ryan
status update?</span></font></p>
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12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>i don't think i'm alone when i say i've
grown pretty disenchanted with this franchise - and its not so much WaW that
did it, but the series of events that have happened between the release of CoD2
and now.</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>On Wed, Jan
14, 2009 at 6:35 AM, James Landi <<a href="mailto:jim@landi.net">jim@landi.net</a>>
wrote:</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:40.8pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>It's my understanding, that most GSPs run Linux to reduce the cost
of their backend hardware by not having to purchase a MS lic for each box.
and by the marginal performance and stability increase you get with Linux
- sorry guys it's not what it use to be. We can also add in the benefits
of security. Granted both OSs are insecure in the hands of novice sys
admin. <br>
Running Windows under wine defeats all that. However I'm afraid to say we
may have to get use to this type of business practice. Any major GSP
should deploy both OSs under their organization now a days.<br>
<br>
Lets be real, most end users are more concerned with getting a server on day one
and it remaining up without any issues. The GSP is concerned with keeping
customers happy and making the most profit while keeping overhead as low as
possible.<br>
<br>
I'm in no way against Linux and prefer it for my servers (both game and web)
but do you think Treyarch / IW / Activision has that high on their priority
list? If anything this has all showed (time and time again) that as a GSP
you can not count on a dev/pub to release linux bits in a timely fashion no
matter how much they promise. Thus you have to have a couple windows boxes
ready for windows only bit deployment. Hell the bigger issues in my mind is non
dedicated bits and why we have to upload the full install to our remote boxes
(you bigger GSPs sit in the same room - damn you :-) )<br>
<br>
The real kicker here is the lack of communications to the people that support
the backend of the PC game without any real or official support from the
dev/pub. In the long run, if someone from Treyarch kept us up to date on
what the hell is going on, these types of communications would be limited and
maybe we would be somewhat compassionate towards their situations, if any.<br>
<br>
Sorry for my rant guys/gals at least it's Wednesday<br>
- Jim Landi<br>
Rudedog<br>
FPSadmin.com</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
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escapedturkey wrote:</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>I only run native Linux binaries *nose in air* ;-)<br>
<br>
RedDragon wrote:</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>I am running COD5 on Ubuntu Hardy with wine.. The CPU is laugthing
about it. So i dont need the bins at all.<br>
<br>
-RedDragon<br>
<br>
PS: If they released i'm turning to the bins...<br>
<br>
Mathis schrieb:</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>or the horrible code from treyarch<br>
*scnr* :-)<br>
<br>
Georgecooldude schrieb:</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>I think we all agree the lack of a release shows how poor the
senior<br>
management at activision are. they clearly don't understand a major<br>
part of their business.<br>
<br>
On 1/13/09, John Kennington <<a href="mailto:jwkennington@gmail.com"
target="_blank">jwkennington@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>Since they are still working on patch 1.2 (as per <a
href="http://callofduty.com" target="_blank">callofduty.com</a> today) I<br>
doubt it will be any time soon.<br>
<br>
John<br>
<br>
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Andrej Parovel <<a
href="mailto:aparovel@gmail.com" target="_blank">aparovel@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>yes yes yes. We can't wait for Linux version for the new one Call
of Duty<br>
:) Also for Activision it will be better I think if they expand their game<br>
and support more servers as these will mean more client playing it.<br>
<br>
<br>
Xavier Kerestesy wrote:<br>
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>Ryan, can you provide a status update of when the Linux files will
be<br>
released? If I understood correctly, you released them to Activision<br>
back<br>
in November. As it is now mid January, I would hope you've received some<br>
sort of feedback by now and/or can get some sort of update for us. You<br>
have<br>
more pull with them then we do. Your assistance in this matter is<br>
greatly<br>
appreciated.<br>
<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
<br>
<br>
Xavier<br>
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