<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Andre is correct about the bug they "said" was the cause of the delay. Do I believe that's the only reason, no :-). <div><br></div><div>Correct me if I'm wrong and I don't want to lead anyone in the wrong direction, but hasn't Ryan stepped up "on his own" to fix one of these bugs from Luigi in the past? Not saying he should do it again but just trying to find an old post or I should say email from this thread. Could have been MOH or CoD1.</div><div><br></div><div>Also it's not back in QA from what I know, it's ready to go. However for some strange reason, it's being held up for non technical reasons. Sorry that is all I know. I wish 402 was a little more open and communicating with us, their PC customers. </div><div><br></div><div>-Jim</div><div>Rudedog</div><div>FPSadmin.com</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div><div>On May 6, 2008, at 7:55 AM, Andre Lorbach wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div lang="DE" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">They found a bug in the new killcam code which occurred once custom mods were used.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">You can read it here:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://iamfourzerotwo.com/2008/04/21/status-report-on-pc-map-contest-and-patch/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://iamfourzerotwo.com/2008/04/21/status-report-on-pc-map-contest-and-patch/</a><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">He also mentions “among other things” in this blog. Maybe they mean the security issue, maybe not.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">It’s almost 3 weeks since this blog post was made.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">--<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Andre<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: blue; border-left-width: 1.5pt; padding-top: 0cm; padding-right: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0cm; padding-left: 4pt; "><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0cm; padding-left: 0cm; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>John Kennington [<a href="mailto:jwkennington@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:jwkennington@gmail.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, May 06, 2008 1:52 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cod@icculus.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cod@icculus.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [cod] CoD4 DoS<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Jim,<br><br>Although I can't find it right now, I seem to remember 402 saying that it had cleared QA, however a "bug" was found and it was sent back to development. The announcement came, I believe, from his blog. 1.6 may not include a fix for the DOS, but why send it back if it has passed QA unless they discovered something even worse?<br><br>John<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 7:36 AM, james landi <<a href="mailto:jim@landi.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">jim@landi.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">He's been doing this work for a very long time, all the way back to the MOH days. IW knows about luigi and he has always provided the info to the devs before releasing it to the wild. This is nothing new to him, IW or this list.<br><br>As far as the 1.6 patch is concerned, it had cleared QA a while ago and has been ready for release, so more then likely it DOES NOT contains this fix. and no the release has not been held up because of this.....<br><br>-Jim<br>Rudedog<br>FPSadmin.com<o:p></o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br><br><br>On May 6, 2008, at 3:57 AM, Andre Lorbach wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Of course we can only assume this. But if you are on<br><a href="mailto:bugtraq@securityfocus.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">bugtraq@securityfocus.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>mailinglist, and seen other posts from Luigi,<br>you will see that the part which contains the "FIX" description<br>sometimes contains information about which version contains the FIX for<br>the bug. And how could they fix it if they weren't informed before ;)<br><br>--<br>Andre <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">-----Original Message-----<br>From: Tyson [mailto:<a href="mailto:twisted@twistedgamingservice.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">twisted@twistedgamingservice.com</a>]<br>Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 6:42 AM<br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cod@icculus.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cod@icculus.org</a><br>Subject: RE: [cod] CoD4 DoS<br><br>How do we know he did not contact them and decided there taking too<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">long to<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">release a fix and simply trying to force their hand?<br><br>Not a wise move if that is his intent, but nonetheless it could be.<br><br>Tyson<br>Twisted Gaming Service<br><a href="http://www.twistedgamingserivce.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.twistedgamingserivce.com</a><br><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Andre Lorbach [mailto:<a href="mailto:alorbach@ro1.adiscon.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">alorbach@ro1.adiscon.com</a>]<br>Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:32 AM<br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cod@icculus.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cod@icculus.org</a><br>Subject: RE: [cod] CoD4 DoS<br><br>This is very sad. Luigi Auriemma always contacts the vendor about bugs<br>first, before he releases them into public.<br>I hope IW react on this very soon, otherwise I see scriptkiddies<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">ddosing<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">our servers very soon.<br><br>--<br>Andre<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">-----Original Message-----<br>From: H. I. Kumpeli [mailto:<a href="mailto:hannu@shadowstyle.nl" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">hannu@shadowstyle.nl</a>]<br>Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:22 PM<br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cod@icculus.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cod@icculus.org</a><br>Subject: RE: [cod] CoD4 DoS<br><br><a href="http://seclists.org/bugtraq/2008/May/0018.html" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://seclists.org/bugtraq/2008/May/0018.html</a><br><br>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----<br>Van: Ronny Schedel [mailto:<a href="mailto:info@ronny-schedel.de" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">info@ronny-schedel.de</a>]<br>Verzonden: maandag 5 mei 2008 13:11<br>Aan:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cod@icculus.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cod@icculus.org</a><br>Onderwerp: Re: [cod] CoD4 DoS<br><br><br>Which DoS?<br><br><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; 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