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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>linux release was patched right from the
start</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Greetz Mike</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=alorbach@ro1.adiscon.com href="mailto:alorbach@ro1.adiscon.com">Andre
Lorbach</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=cod@icculus.org
href="mailto:cod@icculus.org">cod@icculus.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 21, 2005 11:49
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [cod] Any info on a new
patch?</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=254334810-21012005>Saw this a few minutes ago, but only bloody windows
patch :[ (Call of Duty™ 1.5b Server Patch)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=254334810-21012005><A
href="http://www.callofduty.com/patch/">http://www.callofduty.com/patch/</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=254334810-21012005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=254334810-21012005>regards,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=254334810-21012005>deltaray</SPAN></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Siq [mailto:siq@sbcglobal.net]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Freitag, 21. Januar 2005 06:14<BR><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:cod@icculus.org">cod@icculus.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[cod] Any info on a new patch?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I never said you
were imagining the crashes, I said that my servers do not crash. I
also said that you may want to look at your setup. It seems strange
that there would be a major bug that didn’t affect my two servers even
though they run a typical config.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Siq<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Mark
J. DeFilippis [mailto:defilm@acm.org] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, January 20, 2005 7:49
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">cod@icculus.org</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [cod] Any info on a new
patch?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>Even if I had not read the instructions, I would
not make such a mistake.<BR>I would have still done it the same way. Simply,
you always patch the main<BR>code base before the "add-on". COD
upgrades to 1.5 base before a MOD add on<BR>United Offensive upgrades to
1.5.1. Makes sense..<BR><BR>For siq, I really doubt that all of
us are imagining these crashes, as the error logs are real,<BR>as are the
recent bugs referenced in the thread posted by "bits". I have seen
the<BR>errors they refer to, and this is part of the TDM problem, so I guess
I was not imagining it,<BR><BR>See: <A
href="http://www.iwnation.com/Forums/index.php?showtopic=12337"
eudora="autourl">http://www.iwnation.com/Forums/index.php?showtopic=12337</A><BR><BR>Here
is the Zip to fix em: <A
href="http://www.iwnation.com/Forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=108705"
eudora="autourl">http://www.iwnation.com/Forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=108705</A><BR><BR>(Thanks
Jay for those links. Using yours, I grabbed the ones above)<BR><BR>This
really bothers me. If you read the post, and look at the code
fragments, you really have to wonder about the QA process. They are
not "gotcha" type mistakes on boundary checking, they are lazy<BR>copy and
paste type mistakes. It is sloppy, slop. Simple as that.<BR><BR>As to
why many have trouble and you are not? Who knows. But for
certain, enough of us are having the problem, that it is real. THe fact that
I see the problem on FreeBSD, RH9 and my hosted servers (RH ES 3.0, updated
with the latest version via up2date RHN subscription, tells me it is not
likely specific to the Linux distribution, or Ryan's code interpreter (which
is really what his Linux program is...<BR><BR>I would just like to see this
fixed before UO gets more serious competition. There is a lot of
similar<BR>FPS's coming out in 2005 that are claiming to "top" COD. I
don't think anyone expected EA to do<BR>it with MOH PA (how unfortunate),
but some titles look like they have the potential.<BR> <BR>First on the
horizon is 2/25/05.<BR><BR>Mark D<BR><BR><BR>At 08:19 PM 1/20/2005, you
wrote:<BR><BR><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><I><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=5><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"> </SPAN></FONT></I></B><B><FONT
face="Comic Sans MS" size=5><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">POSSIBLY
THOSE THAT DO NOT UPDATE ORIGINAL C.O.D. TO 1.5 BEFORE PATCHING
C.O.D.U.O TO 1.51...</SPAN></FONT></B><BR> <BR><B><I><FONT
face="Comic Sans MS" size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">i
was guilty of this and experienced lag issues and several random freezes _
as well as unable to download from servers on a random basis -- depending on
where the .pks originated from --ie: main or uo
--</SPAN></FONT></I></B><BR> <o:p></o:p></P>
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face="Comic Sans MS" size=5><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><I><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">ok ill go back
under my desk now....<A
href="http://home.comcast.net/~koviatt/crashsgarage.html">crash(mtl) </A>out
!! </SPAN></FONT></I><BR> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>Psalms 118:8 <BR>"It is better to trust in the
LORD than to put confidence in man."<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">----- Original Message -----
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">From: <A
href="mailto:gitman@gmail.com">Geoff Goas</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">To: <A
href="mailto:cod@icculus.org">cod@icculus.org</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 3:36
PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Subject: Re:
[cod] Any info on a new patch?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">i get random crashes but not very
often... i suspect its just people<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">exploiting the
exploit.<BR><BR><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:24:22 -0800, Siq
<<A href="mailto:siq@sbcglobal.net">siq@sbcglobal.net</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> I keep hearing of people
complaining about random crashes but I have yet
to<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> have either of our two servers
crash since 1.51 came out. We run a
BAS/DOM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> server and a DM/TDM/HQ server and
they both are rock solid. Lag is another<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> issue altogether. We even
run AWE mod on the DM/TDM/HQ server and still
no<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> crashes. There either has to
be a config file problem or you have a bad pk3<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">>
somewhere.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> Siq<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">>
________________________________<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> From: Mark J. DeFilippis [<A
href="mailto:defilm@acm.org" eudora="autourl">mailto:defilm@acm.org</A>]
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005
4:33 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> To: <A
href="mailto:cod@icculus.org">cod@icculus.org</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> Subject: Re: [cod] Any info on a
new patch?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> Was Steve's thread just
"Hijacked"? or am I missing part of the list?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> Was there ever a simple
confirmation? Even with the latest PB
patches,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> we still see crashes as
well. It always appears to be during a TWl or
OGL<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">>
match!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> Murphy's law. I can run foy
24x7 full all day long on CTF, and have a<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> dedicated server for
it.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> But TDM is "Death", and appears to
crash more than any other game type for<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> some
reason,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> and particularly in <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Arnhem</st1:place></st1:City>.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> I was hoping the latest pb update
would do it, but there are clearly more<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> issues
here<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> as logs have
shown.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> I didn't think an "ack" was much
to ask for on a patch. If the "official<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> release" Ryan speaks of is the
"current" windows patched 1.51b version, I<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> will be very disappointed. I doubt
I will be alone.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> "Yea! Lets have a party for the
official release of the latest broken<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> version". "Feels like
Windows... should be Linux".<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> D<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> At 10:20 AM 1/17/2005, you
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> I agree, just a simple
confirmation as to what is being done, what
issue(s)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> are being address would be nice to
see!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> Kind
Regards<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> Luke
Antins<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> --<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> [Firestorm
Games]<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <A
href="http://www.firestorm-games.net/">http://www.firestorm-games.net/</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005, Ian mu
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> Yup still seeing crashes even
since the latest pb release as well<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> which we thought were responsible
for some.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> Just a confirmation its being
looked at would be a start as haven't<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> heard a lot so far, or if more
information or logs need posting etc.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> or help needed with tracking it
down.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> Mark J. DeFilippis, Ph. D
EE <A
href="mailto:defilm@acm.org">defilm@acm.org</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<A
href="mailto:defilm@ieee.org">defilm@ieee.org</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">S1-------------------------------------------------------------------------------</SPAN></FONT></TT><FONT
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">Mark J. DeFilippis, Ph. D
EE
defilm@acm.org</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
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defilm@ieee.org</FONT></TT><BR><BR></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>