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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I don't think you quite understand what pts's are.
They are "sudo" files</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>they there are more like devices than files.
They are created dynamically</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>when you login.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So sshing in as yuk will create a "terminal" pty
owned </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>by said user.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This is that sessions "screen" to all intensive
purposes. </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>When you logout</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>it will be "deleted".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There is no problem starting the game processes
under screen using</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the coduo user. The problem he's seeing is that if
said screen is</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>created in the foreground it instantly tries to
write to the "terminal"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>as that device is only accessible to the yuk user
this fails.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The solution as I said is to start them using -d -m
which never tries to</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>open the "terminal". If you then subsequently want
to view the screen</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and you logged in as another user and su'ed, just
temporally grant</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>that user </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>access to
that sessions "terminal" with chmod e.g.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT face="Courier New">chown coduo
</FONT><FONT face="Courier New">/dev/pts/6</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Steve / K</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jayco1@charter.net href="mailto:jayco1@charter.net">Jay Vasallo</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=cod@icculus.org
href="mailto:cod@icculus.org">cod@icculus.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 12, 2005 12:44
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [cod] Screen and su
question.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Well he shows two users. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Using username
"yuk".<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Authenticating with public key
"imported-openssh-key" from agent<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">[yuk@yoda yuk]$ su
-<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Password:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">[root@yoda root]# su - coduo -c
screen<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cannot open
your terminal '/dev/pts/6' - please check.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">[root@yoda root]# ls -la
/dev/pts<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">totaal
148<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">drwxr-xr-x 2 root
root 0 jan 11 2005
.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">drwxr-xr-x 25 root root
147456 jan 11 22:22 ..<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">crw--w---- 1 cod
tty 136, 0 jan 11 22:58 0<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">crw--w---- 1 yuk
tty 136, 1 jan 11 22:59 1<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">crw--w---- 1 root
tty 136, 2 jan 11 22:53 2<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">crw--w---- 1 yuk
tty 136, 3 jan 11 22:59 3<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">crw------- 1 yuk
tty 136, 4 jan 11 22:59 4<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">crw--w---- 1 yuk
tty 136, 5 jan 11 23:00 5<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">crw--w---- 1 yuk
tty 136, 6 jan 11 23:00 6<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">[root@yoda root]#
tty<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">/dev/pts/6</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">He is probably the one using them
all with this script of his. If he is the only one..I say delete them and
start over. Screw trying to figure out why one user can't use the other one.
Have the same user start the same screen. Looks like he did a "userdel" while
he had open screens. I have done this myself...so I say delete them, start his
server. But of course everyone wants to make a science project out of starting
a simple coduo server.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=killing@multiplay.co.uk
href="mailto:killing@multiplay.co.uk">Steven Hartland</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=cod@icculus.org
href="mailto:cod@icculus.org">cod@icculus.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 11, 2005 6:29
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [cod] Screen and su
question.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>LOL</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Erm dont delete them /me slaps Jay around with
some skills :P</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>They are owned by a different user as that's
the user u logged in as.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Your "terminal" is always owned by the user u
log in as. This is to prevent</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>other people reading your
"screen".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What I suspect u really want to do is to create
a server under screen</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>to do this use -m -d e.g.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>su - coduo -c "screen -m -d <server
command>"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now if u want to login like u have and
reconnect to see whats happening</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>you will need to give said user access to your
"terminal". To do this</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>just use chown or chmod. Once your done dont
forget to either:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1. undo the permission changes</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2. logout totally and then reconnect ( u get a
new "terminal" ).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Steve / K</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jayco1@charter.net href="mailto:jayco1@charter.net">Jay
Vasallo</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=cod@icculus.org
href="mailto:cod@icculus.org">cod@icculus.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:56
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [cod] Screen and su
question.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Delete them and start again.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=yuk@xs4all.nl href="mailto:yuk@xs4all.nl">yuk</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=cod@icculus.org
href="mailto:cod@icculus.org">cod@icculus.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 11, 2005
4:03 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [cod] Screen and su
question.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi
Guys,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">With great joy I have read
all the posts in this lists and most of the information is very
valuable! Thank you all for that.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Now, the time has come that
I need some help. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I want to use screen to
monitor my server and have created a script to start it. However, I have
a problem with screen which I do not know how to solve. It’s probably
something trivial, but my UNIX knowledge is not so great yet so I am
quite stuck. Below is a snip let of what I wanted to do and does not
work.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Using username
"yuk".<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Authenticating with public
key "imported-openssh-key" from agent<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">[yuk@yoda yuk]$ su
-<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Password:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">[root@yoda root]# su - coduo
-c screen<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cannot
open your terminal '/dev/pts/6' - please
check.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">[root@yoda root]# ls -la
/dev/pts<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">totaal
148<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">drwxr-xr-x 2
root root 0 jan 11 2005
.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">drwxr-xr-x 25 root
root 147456 jan 11 22:22 ..<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">crw--w---- 1
cod tty 136, 0 jan 11 22:58 0<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">crw--w---- 1
yuk tty 136, 1 jan 11 22:59 1<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">crw--w---- 1
root tty 136, 2 jan 11 22:53 2<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">crw--w---- 1
yuk tty 136, 3 jan 11 22:59 3<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">crw------- 1
yuk tty 136, 4 jan 11 22:59 4<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">crw--w---- 1
yuk tty 136, 5 jan 11 23:00 5<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">crw--w---- 1
yuk tty 136, 6 jan 11 23:00 6<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">[root@yoda root]#
tty<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">/dev/pts/6<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In bold, you can see that
the screen command fails because it cannot open the /dev/pts/6 pseudo
terminal. That is correct because that terminal is owned by the user YUK
not the user CODUO which I have su’ed to before calling
screen.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If anyone can help me out I
would really appreciate it.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Kind
regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Yuk.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>================================================<BR>This
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