[cod] Off-Topic: The Future of GSPs

Caleb Stephens csteph9 at gmail.com
Wed Feb 3 09:31:05 EST 2010


They sold more PC copies than CoD4 too (per what Rob (iw guy) said) ...  I
blame that on marketing, but I will say almost all clans I knew from COD4
(from matches & my own clan), all switched to MW2, and we were tracking
towards mw2 well before all the ads started. we were welcoming it with open
arms looking for a "better" cod4.   there was some complaining at first, but
they are all still playing it and matching regularly.

If they cared about game performance, they would have stopped playing (like
me).  and like the other poster said, they consider themselvs all in the
same boat, so suck game performance doesn't matter to them.

question, at least in my mind, was never how well mw2 would do, but how much
brand damage would it do for a follow-on title?  if the p2p model didn't
work, then gamers would be more hesitant the next round if IW/Trey even have
a PC title.  but so far, looks like brand damage is none, and now it's
follow the leader time.




On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Midnight <midowns at gmail.com> wrote:

>  "Activision and IW proved this beyond any reasonable doubt. MW2 attracted
> MORE players.  Biggest game release in history."
>
> There are simply more people with Xbox & Playstation 3 then there was years
> ago, and a dearth of decent games since Halo.  Of course they are all going
> to buy what is one of the top games of the year for consoles.  They haven't
> proved anything more than that the console market is bigger than it used to
> be.  That and also that console players are noobs who's lack of good ping is
> dwarfed only by their terrible skils at FPS games so it doesn't matter.
>
> Tyson is right, the next MW will likely be only console.  Why bother with
> 3% of the market at this point?  PCs could have been 40% of the market if
> they didn't castrate the game.  But you can't tell them that.
>
> It is a self fulfillng business decision -> Ruin the game, drive down PC
> sales, then point to how bad PC sales are so you can just abandon it
> altogether.
>
> Let's face it, the game publishers are greedy and they like how the noob
> consolers will buy a new game / DLC every week without blinking and then
> throw it in the corner a week later because it's boring.
>
>
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> Tyson wrote:
>
>  Considering only 3% of the total sales for MW2 were PC they didn’t prove
> anything other than only the hard core PC gamers i.e. twl/cal types actually
> bought the game for PC and the noobs new to the franchise that don’t know
> any better.
>
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>
> In fact they proved how easy it was to kill the game for PC and make it
> bigger on a locked in market like the consoles. The next MW will probably
> only be Console just like Halo at this rate.
>
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> Tyson
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> *From:* Caleb Stephens [mailto:csteph9 at gmail.com <csteph9 at gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:26 PM
> *To:* Call of Duty server admin list.
> *Subject:* Re: [cod] Off-Topic: The Future of GSPs
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> >>Only if ppl stop caring about low ping.
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> Activision and IW proved this beyond any reasonable doubt.  MW2 attracted
> MORE players.  Biggest game release in history.
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>
> And league sites like TWL saw no dropoff in league interest.  In fact,
> players are jumping through all kinds of hoops just to play competitively.
>  It's retarded what they are doing, but they are doing it.  Game doesn't
> matter.  Behavior persists.
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> Ping and game performance are the last things on players' minds.  Only the
> die-hard computer centric geeks care.
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> ACTI and IW proved this, hard.
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> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Midnight <midowns at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Only if ppl stop caring about low ping.  GSP's have multiple Tier1 backbone
> connections and are usually 1ms off the main trunks.  Home connections
> typically have 10-20ms + first hops and only 1 ISP backbone directly
> connected.
>
> I think the bigger threat to GSP's is the game publishers cutting them out
> of the mix, to the detriment of their user base.  This will on diminish
> quality of hosting and increase price.
>
>
>
>
> escapedturkey wrote:
>
> Do you believe GSPs will become obsolete as home bandwidth gets larger and
> hardware evolves faster and smaller?
>
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