[cod] DMW Anti-Cheat

[Richard Harrison]

Which is exactly my point, with the ever increasing
cost of games due to their complexity and stunning
graphics, why would they include something that will
not return a cost bennefit.

I wish they would, but i can see why  (if its down to
pure cash reasons) they havent included it on release
day.

 
--- James Landi <jim at landi.net> wrote:

> The majority of people buying CoD2 or any FPS does
> not even play online. 
> 
> Granted that's hard for us to believe but sometimes
> the truth hurts us
> ADMINS :)
> 
> -Jim
> Rudedog
> FPSadmin.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Harrison
> [mailto:richardnharrison at btinternet.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:51 AM
> To: cod at icculus.org
> Subject: RE: [cod] DMW Anti-Cheat
> 
> Yeah but think about it in a cost effective way. Is
> it
> cost effective for them to develop their own AC for
> COD2 and then a new one for maybe COD3 (if that was
> to
> be made). Or do they pay for a service that others
> will do the work that can be an 'afterthought' after
> the game has been published.
> 
> You could look at it another way,
> Has the lack of punkbuster effected sales of the
> game.
> 
> If people are really bothered by the lack of PB they
> would not have bought the game and then ACT/IW would
> have to think twice. The sad fact is that your
> average
> gamer thinks PB as a 'nice to have' and not a 'must
> have' on purchasing the game and hence this will
> always be the way.
> 
> Other games developers/publishers are more forward
> thinking though.
> 
> --- James Landi <jim at landi.net> wrote:
> 
> > If I was ACTV/IW I think I would consider a new
> form
> > of AC.  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Now think about it for a second.  The hackers
> > already know how to bypass BP
> > if they really wanted to.  With a new system, they
> > would have to learn all
> > over again or we wish they would.  I kind of like
> > the idea of a new system.
> > Granted we will all have to learn something new
> but
> > that also means the
> > cheaters/hackers will as well.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > What ever they decide I hope they do it quickly 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > -Jim
> > 
> > Rudedog
> > 
> > FPSadmin.com
> > 
> >   _____  
> > 
> > From: Mark J. DeFilippis [mailto:defilm at acm.org] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:29 PM
> > To: cod at icculus.org
> > Subject: Re: [cod] DMW Anti-Cheat
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > Well, I bought that domain, and I will be happy
> with
> > any A/C system.
> > 
> > If you think about it, ATCV must have wanted to do
> > something
> > they felt was better than PB or it seems it would
> be
> > easy to have
> > done PB.  The system by Garetjax sounds promising.
> 
> > There have
> > a few options. I would think PB would have been
> the
> > easiest and
> > least costly.
> > 
> > Honestly they have always come through before. 
> They
> > have earned
> > the right of some time IMHO.  We don't have our
> > first patch yet. (Can't
> > count 1a).
> > which is a real credit to the job ACTV did, and
> Ryan
> > of course
> > on the Linux binary.
> > 
> > But in about a year, if you still feel this way,
> you
> > can pick up the
> > domain as I don't think I will be renewing it. ;-)
> > lol..
> > 
> > ACTV and IFW have always been open. There has to
> be
> > some
> > reason they don't wish to disclose at this time. 
> > Steve, Jay, and a
> > few others have written open emails on this list,
> > and there was no
> > response (on the list anyway).  It is
> > uncharacteristic, so they must
> > have a reason.  Perhaps to not give the hackers a
> > jump start.
> > I saw cheats for COD2 the day the game came out in
> > stores ;-))
> > Geez, they had be be modifying their cheats based
> on
> > picking
> > apart the demo...
> > 
> > Mark
> > 
> > At 01:29 PM 11/16/2005, you wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > If that's right I think it's time to activate the
> > "www.activisionsucks.com
> > <http://www.activisionsucks.com/> "-website now.
> > 
> > James Landi schrieb:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > This is something DMW is doing on their own. 
> > Activision has not stated who,
> > what or when A/C will be implemented in CoD2.
> > 
> > 
> > -Jim Landi
> > 
> > Rudedog
> > 
> > FPSadmin.com
> > 
> >
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