[cod] Screen and su question.

Steven Hartland killing at multiplay.co.uk
Wed Jan 12 07:04:16 EST 2005


Doesn't matter if u deleted the user or not the pts's will disappear the instant
the users session is terminated.

    Steve / K
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jay Vasallo 
  To: cod at icculus.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 3:13 AM
  Subject: Re: [cod] Screen and su question.


  I understand what they are. It just looked as if he was trying to get it started. Then removed the user while he had screens with the user. Then re-added the user and then he tried to connect to them. I have done this in the past and always had permission errors. This is why i suggested deleting them and starting the server again.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Steven Hartland 
    To: cod at icculus.org 
    Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:56 PM
    Subject: Re: [cod] Screen and su question.


    I don't think you quite understand what pts's are. They are "sudo" files
    they there are more like devices than files. They are created dynamically
    when you login.
    So sshing in as yuk will create a "terminal" pty owned by said user.
    This is that sessions "screen" to all intensive purposes. When you logout
    it will be "deleted".

    There is no problem starting the game processes under screen using
    the coduo user. The problem he's seeing is that if said screen is
    created in the foreground it instantly tries to write to the "terminal"
    as that device is only accessible to the yuk user this fails.

    The solution as I said is to start them using -d -m which never tries to
    open the "terminal". If you then subsequently want to view the screen
    and you logged in as another user and su'ed, just temporally grant
    that user access to that sessions "terminal" with chmod e.g.
    chown coduo /dev/pts/6

        Steve / K
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Jay Vasallo 
      To: cod at icculus.org 
      Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 12:44 AM
      Subject: Re: [cod] Screen and su question.


      Well he shows two users. 

      Using username "yuk".

      Authenticating with public key "imported-openssh-key" from agent

      [yuk at yoda yuk]$ su -

      Password:

      [root at yoda root]# su - coduo -c screen

      Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/6' - please check.

      [root at yoda root]# ls -la /dev/pts

      totaal 148

      drwxr-xr-x   2 root root      0 jan 11  2005 .

      drwxr-xr-x  25 root root 147456 jan 11 22:22 ..

      crw--w----   1 cod  tty  136, 0 jan 11 22:58 0

      crw--w----   1 yuk  tty  136, 1 jan 11 22:59 1

      crw--w----   1 root tty  136, 2 jan 11 22:53 2

      crw--w----   1 yuk  tty  136, 3 jan 11 22:59 3

      crw-------   1 yuk  tty  136, 4 jan 11 22:59 4

      crw--w----   1 yuk  tty  136, 5 jan 11 23:00 5

      crw--w----   1 yuk  tty  136, 6 jan 11 23:00 6

      [root at yoda root]# tty

      /dev/pts/6





      He is probably the one using them all with this script of his. If he is the only one..I say delete them and start over. Screw trying to figure out why one user can't use the other one. Have the same user start the same screen. Looks like he did a "userdel" while he had open screens. I have done this myself...so I say delete them, start his server. But of course everyone wants to make a science project out of starting a simple coduo server.

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Steven Hartland 
        To: cod at icculus.org 
        Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 6:29 PM
        Subject: Re: [cod] Screen and su question.


        LOL
        Erm dont delete them /me slaps Jay around with some skills :P

        They are owned by a different user as that's the user u logged in as.

        Your "terminal" is always owned by the user u log in as. This is to prevent
        other people reading your "screen".
        What I suspect u really want to do is to create a server under screen
        to do this use -m -d e.g.
        su - coduo -c "screen -m -d <server command>"

        Now if u want to login like u have and reconnect to see whats happening
        you will need to give said user access to your "terminal". To do this
        just use chown or chmod. Once your done dont forget to either:
        1. undo the permission changes
        2. logout totally and then reconnect ( u get a new "terminal" ).

            Steve / K

        ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Jay Vasallo 
          To: cod at icculus.org 
          Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:56 PM
          Subject: Re: [cod] Screen and su question.


          Delete them and start again.
            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: yuk 
            To: cod at icculus.org 
            Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:03 PM
            Subject: [cod] Screen and su question.


            Hi Guys,

             

            With great joy I have read all the posts in this lists and most of the information is very valuable! Thank you all for that.

             

            Now, the time has come that I need some help. 

             

            I want to use screen to monitor my server and have created a script to start it. However, I have a problem with screen which I do not know how to solve. It's probably something trivial, but my UNIX knowledge is not so great yet so I am quite stuck. Below is a snip let of what I wanted to do and does not work.

             

             

            Using username "yuk".

            Authenticating with public key "imported-openssh-key" from agent

            [yuk at yoda yuk]$ su -

            Password:

            [root at yoda root]# su - coduo -c screen

            Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/6' - please check.

            [root at yoda root]# ls -la /dev/pts

            totaal 148

            drwxr-xr-x   2 root root      0 jan 11  2005 .

            drwxr-xr-x  25 root root 147456 jan 11 22:22 ..

            crw--w----   1 cod  tty  136, 0 jan 11 22:58 0

            crw--w----   1 yuk  tty  136, 1 jan 11 22:59 1

            crw--w----   1 root tty  136, 2 jan 11 22:53 2

            crw--w----   1 yuk  tty  136, 3 jan 11 22:59 3

            crw-------   1 yuk  tty  136, 4 jan 11 22:59 4

            crw--w----   1 yuk  tty  136, 5 jan 11 23:00 5

            crw--w----   1 yuk  tty  136, 6 jan 11 23:00 6

            [root at yoda root]# tty

            /dev/pts/6

             

             

            In bold, you can see that the screen command fails because it cannot open the /dev/pts/6 pseudo terminal. That is correct because that terminal is owned by the user YUK not the user CODUO which I have su'ed to before calling screen.

             

            If anyone can help me out I would really appreciate it.

             

            Kind regards,

            Yuk.


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