[cod] 1.3 patch has ruined my clan

Curtis Brown volfin1 at earthlink.net
Sat Mar 27 10:04:52 EST 2004 

Well, I think a lot of people have overlooked one thing.   The Linux server
is not supported by Activision. They couldn't care less if it works.
It's up to the fine folks at icculus.org to fix the Linux server.  Thats
what this mailing list is all about, issues with the Linux server.  I don't
think IW has
anything to do with the Linux server either.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Orr, Roland Cadet" <Orr at cadetmail.uscga.edu>
To: <cod at icculus.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 3:03 AM
Subject: RE: [cod] 1.3 patch has ruined my clan


> Hello all.
>
> Indeed, this is quite a bug, and could kill linux servers if not fixed.
> Common sense would suggest that it will be fixed soon.  I know there are
IW
> people that subscribe to this list, and one has already acknowledged the
bug
> [thanks Bryan! =].  However, it would be great if someone from IW could
take
> it one step further and tell us the answer to the question that is on the
> minds of all the penguin server admins - when is an official fix going to
be
> released?  Being somewhat versed in the intricacies of organizations, and
> FULLY versed in the lack of communication that often plagues a large-scale
> effort - such as a company producing a game patch - I realize that there
> probably is not an answer to that question yet.
>
> If that is the case, can we at least hear that it's going to be fixed
before
> the next patch?  Personally, I tire of 90% of my inbox consisting of cod
> mailing list emails every day when I return from classes, and I think a
> semi-formal response from IW would partially squelch the defeatists that
> fill our inboxes up with despairing emails.  Jim brings up a good point -
> some people will never be happy.  But I know I am not alone when I assert
> that at least some of us would be happy with an update on the problem.
>
> Thanks IW for making what I think is the best multiplayer FPS ever (y'all
> don't get enough credit! and yes, I'm from the South =P).
>
> ~Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Kreuziger [mailto:jkreuzig at cyberonic.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 2:38 AM
> To: cod at icculus.org
> Subject: RE: [cod] 1.3 patch has ruined my clan
>
>
> The effect that I've seen with the MP44 is bad.  However, there is a not
> so subtle
> effect with the SMG's.  It's no where near as bad as the MP44.  It is
> slight in comparison,
> but it is noticable.
>
> I sure it will be fixed also.  However, I'm like a lot of people and
> wonder why I haven't
> seen ANY indication as to when.  It seems like quite a bug to let wait
> until the next patch.
>
> -Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CODBoards Admin [mailto:admin at codboards.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 9:13 PM
> To: cod at icculus.org
> Subject: RE: [cod] 1.3 patch has ruined my clan
>
>
> The only weapon that's causing the wrong place firing effect is the
> german MP44. I've tried many different servers, did burst, iron view,
> all kinds of types of firing modes but the only weapon was MP44 that I
> found acting up. Big deal! It'll be fixed I'm sure.
>
>
> genesis
> CODBoards Admin
> http://www.codboards.com/
> A part of Central Gamers Network
> http://www.centralgamers.net/
> .
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Kreuziger [mailto:jkreuzig at cyberonic.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 10:59 PM
> To: cod at icculus.org
> Subject: RE: [cod] 1.3 patch has ruined my clan
>
> Ok, so you know about the bug.  Is there any indication that it will be
> fixed anytime soon?
>
> I've not had the problem of people deserting our server.  I actually had
> fewer people on the
> server when we converted to 1.2 because of the time it took to show up
> in people's ingame browsers.
> We now have a steady stream of regulars that show up regardless.
>
> I am noticing something interesting here.  From what I can tell, IW
> takes great pride in producing
> this game.  Most of the developers are the original guys that did MOHAA.
> I remember the crap that
> EA games went through with their non-support of MOHAA.  Now IW and
> Activision seem to be taking the
> same amount of guff, but it's because of the changes that are being
> made.  Some people will never
> be happy.
>
> -Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bryan Kuhn [mailto:bryan at infinityward.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 12:25 PM
> To: cod at icculus.org
> Subject: Re: [cod] 1.3 patch has ruined my clan
>
>
> Not much to say. We know about the bug.
>
> Friday, March 26, 2004, 12:13:03 PM, you wrote:
>
>
> > Our server is empty for the first time since it came up (same day as
> > 1.2 came out). This can only be due to the recognition of the linux
> > recoil problem. Though I don't want to slag off all the hard work
> > that's has gone into this patch, one has to question the validity of
> > the beta testing process that was used. Surely this kind of error must
>
> > be picked up before release. It's really disappointing to see a great
> > patch being undermined by what amounts to poor quality assurance. It's
>
> > also disappointing to see no word on it from IW on it on here.
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: admin at codboards.com [mailto:admin at codboards.com]
> > Sent: 26 March 2004 19:43
> > To: cod at icculus.org
> > Subject: Re: [cod] 1.3 patch has ruined my clan
>
>
> > That explains a lot. Thanks Bryan!
>
> >> people also keep playing the old versions so it splits people up
> >> more. Right now there are 2600 people playing 1.1 or 1.2 and 7400
> >> playing 1.3.
> >>
> >> Friday, March 26, 2004, 10:23:20 AM, you wrote:
> >>> I realize that. I love the patch and I have no problems with it
> >>> other than my server is empty, which was kind of empty before as
> >>> well but I was expecting a rush of people who wanted to test 1.3. I
> >>> did get thousands of
> >>> hits on my site and people downloaded the patches and files worth of
> >>> 20GB
> >>> in just the first day. I'm glad IW worked on this patch and I'm
> >>> certainly
> >>> satisfied with the outcome. But I've read hundreds of posts on my
> site
> >>> people complaining about one thing or another. Ironically it doesn't
>
> >>> work that way and people don't realize that.
> >>
> >>> I won't waste more time, we've got big discussions going on my
> >>> forums anyways. But I'm a happy camper.
> >>
> >>> genesis
> >>> http://www.codboards.com/
> >>
> >>
> >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >>>> Hash: SHA1
> >>>>
> >>>> Some people really know how to motivate people to do what you want
> >>>> them to! Every time they release a patch there is a flurry of "you
> >>>> guys suck" emails on this list that contribute absolutely nothing
> >>>> to a solution and
> >>>> waste everyone's time. But thanks for sharing your feelings.
> >>>>
> >>>> The patch has had no impact on my server's utilization versus 1.2,
> >>>> it's still full most of the time. Lag appears about the same.
> >>>> That's not to say it hasn't had that impact on other servers, but
> >>>> it's really very difficult
> >>>> to predict exactly how something is going to behave on the
> tremendous
> >>>> array of systems and server software that are out there running the
>
> >>>> game.
> >>>>
> >>>> Obviously, if it were really that easy to fix the in-game browser
> >>>> problem it would have been done already.
> >>>>
> >>>>      -d
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> And the in-game browser still doesn't work.  You'd think they
> >>>>> would hire a DBA to handle this.  Or at least an entry level
> >>>>> coder.  It can't be that hard to make it work right.  The quality
> >>>>> of this game is taking a plunge.  If there was something else
> >>>>> comparable, I'd switch and drop this game.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> John Kennington
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: admin at codboards.com [mailto:admin at codboards.com]
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 12:29 PM
> >>>>> To: cod at icculus.org
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [cod] 1.3 patch has ruined my clan
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You can read about it here
> >>>>> http://www.codboards.com/index.php?showtopic=2912&view=findpost&p=
> >>>>> 28763
> >>>>> it's mostly about shooting in wrong places but a lot of other
> people
> >>>>> were
> >>>>> upset, not sure for what other reasons, some installation issues
> and
> >>>>> others.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Can someone tell me what Problem (on 1.3) we are talking about? I
>
> >>>>>> just installed 3 Linux Servers and am pretty interested what kind
>
> >>>>>> of Bug is
> >>>>>> in the 1.3 Patch.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thx.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> acc> I have to agree on the emptiness of my servers with you. I'm
> >>>>> running
> >>>>>> 5
> >>>>>> acc> servers on 1.3 and I patched them the same day (few hours)
> >>>>>> acc> of
> >>>>> patch
> >>>>>> acc> release. I was assuming it'd get totally full but not a
> >>>>>> acc> single
> >>>>> person
> >>>>>> acc> joined in to date. The server is listed as well.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> acc> The rest of the thing, specially the wrong shooting bug
> >>>>>> acc> everyone
> >>>>>> keeps
> >>>>>> acc> talking about all over my website, like this one here
> >>>>>> acc>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.codboards.com/index.php?showtopic=2912&view=findpost&p=
> >>>>> 28763
> >>>>>> acc> but I never experienced this even trying to get it wrong I
> >>>>>> can't.
> >>>>> So
> >>>>>> if
> >>>>>> acc> it's working for me, it's gotta be not the patch. Correct?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Seriously, We went from having two full COD 1.2 servers 24/7 to
>
> >>>>>>>> two empty, laggy, weapons shooting to the side, crappy servers.
>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks IW!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> How do we as Linux admins recover from this patch? I have
> >>>>>>>> installed a weapons mod to (I think) correct the weapons
> >>>>>>>> issues, but I think most users see the 'LD' next to my servers
> >>>>>>>> and avoid like the plague. Maybe Im wrong.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Also, the servers are periodically more laggy than before.....
> >>>>>>>> and no, Im not paranoid. I have admined over 20 different Linux
>
> >>>>>>>> games, dozens of mods, etc. I am telling you this patch is
> >>>>>>>> laggy. I cant find any obvious reason for it, but its there.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> What are we to do now?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Luke
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Mit freundlichen Grüssen
> >>>>>> Walrus
> >>>>>> mailto:walrus at iam3.de
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
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