[cod] 1.3 patch has ruined my clan

[luke at techfreak.org]

Yeah, I added this fix this morning. I imagine that over time our
servers population will return. But it is incredibly frustrating to
work sooooo hard to make sure my servers are the best they can be
only to have those efforts undermined by such a silly oversight.

As all of us who run servers know, the online community is amazingly
fickle. If your server has lag for a few days in a row, you can lose
most of your regular visitors. A major bug like this can (and has)
destroyed our servers credibilty.

On top of that, since their was no Linux server code released with
Beta 1.3 (yeah, im the guy who screamed about that on this list and
was told to 'relax'), there has been no way for us Admins to test
the server prior to upgrading. So, not only would this bug have been
found if a Linux Beta was released, but we would have been better
prepared to adapt our servers to any custom mods, weapon
adjustments, etc that we ALL run.

Luke

> http://forums.caleague.com/index.php?showtopic=3959
>
> This patch is reported to fix the aim problems. I have added it to
> my
> server but haven't had the chance to test it, seems it should do the
> trick. Change the name of your server to add something like
>
> "Iron Sights Fixed"
>
> go to some of the community forums slide in a post about how you
> fixed
> your server's iron sights problem and quote the above link for
> others...
> Any public shunning of linux servers was born in community forums,
> what
> stops us from turning it around in the same way?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: plebs [mailto:plebas at clan-mutiny.co.uk]
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 2:13 PM
> To: cod at icculus.org
> Subject: RE: [cod] 1.3 patch has ruined my clan
>
>
>
> Our server is empty for the first time since it came up (same day as
> 1.2
> came out). This can only be due to the recognition of the linux
> recoil
> problem. Though I don't want to slag off all the hard work that's
> has
> gone
> into this patch, one has to question the validity of the beta
> testing
> process that was used. Surely this kind of error must be picked up
> before
> release. It's really disappointing to see a great patch being
> undermined
> by
> what amounts to poor quality assurance. It's also disappointing to
> see
> no
> word on it from IW on it on here.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: admin at codboards.com [mailto:admin at codboards.com]
> Sent: 26 March 2004 19:43
> To: cod at icculus.org
> Subject: Re: [cod] 1.3 patch has ruined my clan
>
>
> That explains a lot. Thanks Bryan!
>
>> people also keep playing the old versions so it splits people up
>> more.
>> Right now there are 2600 people playing 1.1 or 1.2 and 7400
>> playing
>> 1.3.
>>
>> Friday, March 26, 2004, 10:23:20 AM, you wrote:
>>> I realize that. I love the patch and I have no problems with it
>>> other
>>> than
>>> my server is empty, which was kind of empty before as well but I
>>> was
>>> expecting a rush of people who wanted to test 1.3. I did get
> thousands
>>> of
>>> hits on my site and people downloaded the patches and files worth
>>> of
>>> 20GB
>>> in just the first day. I'm glad IW worked on this patch and I'm
>>> certainly
>>> satisfied with the outcome. But I've read hundreds of posts on my
> site
>>> people complaining about one thing or another. Ironically it
>>> doesn't
>>> work
>>> that way and people don't realize that.
>>
>>> I won't waste more time, we've got big discussions going on my
>>> forums
>>> anyways. But I'm a happy camper.
>>
>>> genesis
>>> http://www.codboards.com/
>>
>>
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>>>> Some people really know how to motivate people to do what you
>>>> want
> them
>>>> to! Every time they release a patch there is a flurry of "you
>>>> guys
>>>> suck"
>>>> emails on this list that contribute absolutely nothing to a
>>>> solution
>>>> and
>>>> waste everyone's time. But thanks for sharing your feelings.
>>>>
>>>> The patch has had no impact on my server's utilization versus
>>>> 1.2,
> it's
>>>> still full most of the time. Lag appears about the same. That's
>>>> not
> to
>>>> say
>>>> it hasn't had that impact on other servers, but it's really very
>>>> difficult
>>>> to predict exactly how something is going to behave on the
> tremendous
>>>> array of systems and server software that are out there running
>>>> the
>>>> game.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously, if it were really that easy to fix the in-game
>>>> browser
>>>> problem
>>>> it would have been done already.
>>>>
>>>>      -d
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> And the in-game browser still doesn't work.  You'd think they
>>>>> would
>>>>> hire
>>>>> a DBA to handle this.  Or at least an entry level coder.  It
>>>>> can't
> be
>>>>> that hard to make it work right.  The quality of this game is
> taking a
>>>>> plunge.  If there was something else comparable, I'd switch and
> drop
>>>>> this game.
>>>>>
>>>>> John Kennington
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: admin at codboards.com [mailto:admin at codboards.com]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 12:29 PM
>>>>> To: cod at icculus.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [cod] 1.3 patch has ruined my clan
>>>>>
>>>>> You can read about it here
>>>>>
> http://www.codboards.com/index.php?showtopic=2912&view=findpost&p=28763
>>>>> it's mostly about shooting in wrong places but a lot of other
> people
>>>>> were
>>>>> upset, not sure for what other reasons, some installation
>>>>> issues
> and
>>>>> others.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can someone tell me what Problem (on 1.3) we are talking
>>>>>> about? I
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> installed 3 Linux Servers and am pretty interested what kind
>>>>>> of
> Bug
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> in the 1.3 Patch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thx.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> acc> I have to agree on the emptiness of my servers with you.
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>> running
>>>>>> 5
>>>>>> acc> servers on 1.3 and I patched them the same day (few
>>>>>> hours) of
>>>>> patch
>>>>>> acc> release. I was assuming it'd get totally full but not a
> single
>>>>> person
>>>>>> acc> joined in to date. The server is listed as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> acc> The rest of the thing, specially the wrong shooting bug
> everyone
>>>>>> keeps
>>>>>> acc> talking about all over my website, like this one here
>>>>>> acc>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
> http://www.codboards.com/index.php?showtopic=2912&view=findpost&p=28763
>>>>>> acc> but I never experienced this even trying to get it wrong
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> can't.
>>>>> So
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> acc> it's working for me, it's gotta be not the patch.
>>>>>> Correct?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Seriously, We went from having two full COD 1.2 servers 24/7
>>>>>>>> to
> two
>>>>>>>> empty, laggy, weapons shooting to the side, crappy servers.
> Thanks
>>>>>>>> IW!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How do we as Linux admins recover from this patch? I have
> installed
>>>>>>>> a weapons mod to (I think) correct the weapons issues, but I
> think
>>>>>>>> most users see the 'LD' next to my servers and avoid like
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> plague. Maybe Im wrong.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, the servers are periodically more laggy than
>>>>>>>> before.....
> and
>>>>>>>> no, Im not paranoid. I have admined over 20 different Linux
> games,
>>>>>>>> dozens of mods, etc. I am telling you this patch is laggy. I
> cant
>>>>>>>> find any obvious reason for it, but its there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What are we to do now?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Luke
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Mit freundlichen Grüssen
>>>>>> Walrus
>>>>>> mailto:walrus at iam3.de
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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