[cod] 1.3 patch has ruined my clan

Bryan Kuhn bryan at infinityward.com
Fri Mar 26 15:25:06 EST 2004


Not much to say. We know about the bug.

Friday, March 26, 2004, 12:13:03 PM, you wrote:


> Our server is empty for the first time since it came up (same day as 1.2
> came out). This can only be due to the recognition of the linux recoil
> problem. Though I don't want to slag off all the hard work that's has gone
> into this patch, one has to question the validity of the beta testing
> process that was used. Surely this kind of error must be picked up before
> release. It's really disappointing to see a great patch being undermined by
> what amounts to poor quality assurance. It's also disappointing to see no
> word on it from IW on it on here.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: admin at codboards.com [mailto:admin at codboards.com]
> Sent: 26 March 2004 19:43
> To: cod at icculus.org
> Subject: Re: [cod] 1.3 patch has ruined my clan


> That explains a lot. Thanks Bryan!

>> people also keep playing the old versions so it splits people up more.
>> Right now there are 2600 people playing 1.1 or 1.2 and 7400 playing
>> 1.3.
>>
>> Friday, March 26, 2004, 10:23:20 AM, you wrote:
>>> I realize that. I love the patch and I have no problems with it other
>>> than
>>> my server is empty, which was kind of empty before as well but I was
>>> expecting a rush of people who wanted to test 1.3. I did get thousands
>>> of
>>> hits on my site and people downloaded the patches and files worth of
>>> 20GB
>>> in just the first day. I'm glad IW worked on this patch and I'm
>>> certainly
>>> satisfied with the outcome. But I've read hundreds of posts on my site
>>> people complaining about one thing or another. Ironically it doesn't
>>> work
>>> that way and people don't realize that.
>>
>>> I won't waste more time, we've got big discussions going on my forums
>>> anyways. But I'm a happy camper.
>>
>>> genesis
>>> http://www.codboards.com/
>>
>>
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>>>> Some people really know how to motivate people to do what you want them
>>>> to! Every time they release a patch there is a flurry of "you guys
>>>> suck"
>>>> emails on this list that contribute absolutely nothing to a solution
>>>> and
>>>> waste everyone's time. But thanks for sharing your feelings.
>>>>
>>>> The patch has had no impact on my server's utilization versus 1.2, it's
>>>> still full most of the time. Lag appears about the same. That's not to
>>>> say
>>>> it hasn't had that impact on other servers, but it's really very
>>>> difficult
>>>> to predict exactly how something is going to behave on the tremendous
>>>> array of systems and server software that are out there running the
>>>> game.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously, if it were really that easy to fix the in-game browser
>>>> problem
>>>> it would have been done already.
>>>>
>>>>      -d
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> And the in-game browser still doesn't work.  You'd think they would
>>>>> hire
>>>>> a DBA to handle this.  Or at least an entry level coder.  It can't be
>>>>> that hard to make it work right.  The quality of this game is taking a
>>>>> plunge.  If there was something else comparable, I'd switch and drop
>>>>> this game.
>>>>>
>>>>> John Kennington
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: admin at codboards.com [mailto:admin at codboards.com]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 12:29 PM
>>>>> To: cod at icculus.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [cod] 1.3 patch has ruined my clan
>>>>>
>>>>> You can read about it here
>>>>> http://www.codboards.com/index.php?showtopic=2912&view=findpost&p=28763
>>>>> it's mostly about shooting in wrong places but a lot of other people
>>>>> were
>>>>> upset, not sure for what other reasons, some installation issues and
>>>>> others.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can someone tell me what Problem (on 1.3) we are talking about? I
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> installed 3 Linux Servers and am pretty interested what kind of Bug
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> in the 1.3 Patch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thx.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> acc> I have to agree on the emptiness of my servers with you. I'm
>>>>> running
>>>>>> 5
>>>>>> acc> servers on 1.3 and I patched them the same day (few hours) of
>>>>> patch
>>>>>> acc> release. I was assuming it'd get totally full but not a single
>>>>> person
>>>>>> acc> joined in to date. The server is listed as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> acc> The rest of the thing, specially the wrong shooting bug everyone
>>>>>> keeps
>>>>>> acc> talking about all over my website, like this one here
>>>>>> acc>
>>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.codboards.com/index.php?showtopic=2912&view=findpost&p=28763
>>>>>> acc> but I never experienced this even trying to get it wrong I
>>>>>> can't.
>>>>> So
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> acc> it's working for me, it's gotta be not the patch. Correct?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Seriously, We went from having two full COD 1.2 servers 24/7 to two
>>>>>>>> empty, laggy, weapons shooting to the side, crappy servers. Thanks
>>>>>>>> IW!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How do we as Linux admins recover from this patch? I have installed
>>>>>>>> a weapons mod to (I think) correct the weapons issues, but I think
>>>>>>>> most users see the 'LD' next to my servers and avoid like the
>>>>>>>> plague. Maybe Im wrong.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, the servers are periodically more laggy than before..... and
>>>>>>>> no, Im not paranoid. I have admined over 20 different Linux games,
>>>>>>>> dozens of mods, etc. I am telling you this patch is laggy. I cant
>>>>>>>> find any obvious reason for it, but its there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What are we to do now?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Luke
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Mit freundlichen Grüssen
>>>>>> Walrus
>>>>>> mailto:walrus at iam3.de
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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