[cod] ADS (iron sights) problems with 1.3 Linux servers

Fri Mar 26 14:07:36 EST 2004

I cannot confirm on my 1.3 servers that there is a shooting issue with
everyone. I went and test it last night, and I actually shot better with
the sniper rifles.

I didn’t see any issues with the MP-40 or Thompson as some people have
described. It might be that I was just shooting off target in 1.2 and
the 1.3 issue has corrected my line of sight =)

It would appear to me to be machine specific, not patch specific. Not
sure how that could be though unless a pk3 or mod like PAM was making a
difference.

Neil

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Goas [mailto:gitmang at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 11:35 AM
To: cod at icculus.org
Subject: Re: [cod] ADS (iron sights) problems with 1.3 Linux servers

Adjusting the following variables in the weapons files will fix the
problem, although this shouldn't need to be done.

Someone posted this fix on IWNation,

This is the thompson, comparing pak8\weapons\mp\thompson_mp to his
"fixed" thompson

adsGunKickYawMin from -60 to -10
adsGunKickYawMax from 90 to 20
adsGunKickAccel from 650 to 1200
hipGunKickYawMin from -2 to -40
hipGunKickYawMax from 18 to 38

I'm not sure what the numerical values mean but other people have posted
that it works. I am also not sure if those values could apply to other
weapons.

- Geoff

At 12:25 PM 3/24/2004 -0500, you wrote:

Daniel got most of this, but he's right, this does not happen on
Windows.  I tried both last night.  On Windows the spray on a Thompson
bucks pretty much straight up.  On Linux, the gun moves up, but the
spray moves wide right (not even close to where the muzzle is pointing).
Same with the MP44 except it goes even wider right.  It also doesn't
seem to matter if you have it auto or fire fast on semi-auto.  If you're
using sights and fire fast the spray goes wacko.  Spray is a lot more
consistent without the sights.  My main complaint is that I do use ADS
with the MP44 a lot since it basically is an automatic rifle, and I like
being able to hit things far off.  This isn't a big complaint, though,
because when I do that I'm usually not firing fast, just a couple slow
shots.

Anyway, I've seen at least 1 league that has decided not to bless 1.3
for league play because of this problem and the number of Linux servers.
Not sure what's different in the Linux binaries, but something sure
it...  Hopefully we'll get a quick fix.

  Maverick

SIU-Donovan wrote:

Does this happen while just holding down the fire button or does it
happen
while taking single shots?  Either way weapons do have recoil and
expecting
to have your weapon return to the same spot after every shot is
crazy.  If
you want that kind of control then use a rifle not and smg.  Not
trying to
start a flame here but just trying to bring a little sanity.  SMG's
are not
rifles or sniper weapons, they are by nature somewhat inaccurate.

Does this not happen in Windows servers?

I was just playing 1.3 on a Linux server last night and didn't notice
any
unusual characteristics with the smg's.

Donovan
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rickard Åberg"
 <mailto:rickard at refused.net> <rickard at refused.net>
To:  <mailto:cod at icculus.org> <cod at icculus.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 4:59 AM
Subject: Re: [cod] ADS (iron sights) problems with 1.3 Linux servers

It really needs to be addressed NOW. I hate to sound harsh but 
it's
true. I patched 12 servers yesterday (running on 4 computers, including
editing configfiles), there's no way I'm going to revert to 1.2 again.
I bet people will ignore linux servers until it's fixed.

/ Rickard

Maverick wrote:

  Any idea when this might get addressed? Please don't tell us
1.4.
Ladders are holding off going to 1.3 because so many groups on those
ladders have Linux servers.  I hate seeing these things that are
Linux
only and make Linux like like the ugly step child as usual. 
Ryan/IW,
Thanks for all your hard work on the Linux side!

  Maverick

Josh Wright wrote:

I have the same problem.  Only mod is 4 grenade weapons files
in a pk3.

Here's a clip of me testing it - 7mb

http://www.mwhq.net/modules.php?name=Downloads
<http://www.mwhq.net/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=19>
&d_op=getit&lid=19

-Josh

-----Original Message-----
From: VG Ops
[mailto:info at valuegaming.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 12:49 PM
To: cod at icculus.org
Subject: Re: [cod] ADS (iron sights) problems with 1.3 Linux servers

Just tested this on our Linux 1.3 server and its true.

You shoot a MP44 at a wall when looking down the sights and by the end
of the clip, the bullets are hitting things about 45deg to your upper
right; so far right, you can't see where they are hitting.
PPSH is slightly but consistently hitting to the left.
Thompson is slightly but consistently hitting to the right.

I've put some screenshots up for you to see...

http://www.valuegaming.com/games/patch1.3/patch.jsp

VG Ops

Sac wrote:

I haven't had a chance to test this myself, but I'm reading a fair
bit

about

it on various forums so I'm assuming it's genuine:

HYPERLINK

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