[bf1942] Issues regarding "ranked servers"

[Lee Latham]

Bigtime...I know I'm not running a server for it if I can't have everything 
unlocked for my players.

Get real...nobody is going to maintain a server for your game if it's a 
"junior" or "lite" server, and nobody is going to PLAY the game if they're 
getting their asses kicked by some dork with access to weapons they can't 
have.

I believe there is a name for the concept, it's called "weapons balancing".

lee

At 10:06 AM 5/13/2005, you wrote:
>I agree 100%
>
>This 'ranked' server issue seems to me to be a game-killer.
>
>Luke
>
>Michael Ressen said:
> > Frode H wrote:
> >>
> >>>Your unofficial server may choose to use the ranking from the official
> >>>servers for unlocks, so once a player has unlocked a weapon by enough
> >>> kills
> >>>(?) on official servers, they can freely play on your unofficial server
> >>> and
> >>>select that unlocked weapon if they choose (again, only if you allow it
> >>> in
> >>>your server settings).
> >>
> >> But players tend to STAY on the servers they use to play on,
> >> until they somehow is "forcede" to switch. I'll give you a good
> >> example: We had Norway's most popular DC-server. Then we
> >> had to move it to a new computer, giving it a new IP. Overnight
> >> the server empteid, and has never regained popularity, even
> >> though our community was made aware of the change, and
> >> we had LOTS of players trying to keep it alive.
> >>
> >> So the argument "people will come play at unranked servers
> >> once they have unlocked on ranked ones" just doesn't hold
> >> in my oppinion.
> >>
> >>
> >>>Also, having played the game for a few hours, the M16 is not in any way
> >>>weak.  It has (as is 'realistic') both a single shot mode and a three
> >>> shot
> >>>burst mode.
> >>
> >> Beside the point. The *vast* majority of player would want to
> >> unlock EVERYTHING as soon as possible. That's just the
> >> nature of us humans, isn't it. We're desperately seeking to
> >> remove stuff that is holding us back.
> >>
> >>
> >>>The inability to go full auto is actually a noob friendly
> >>>option, preventing inexperienced players from firing most of their clip
> >>> into
> >>>the roof / sky.
> >>
> >> I mean no offence, but now I think you are being borderline
> >> patronising here. N00bs are not stupid, only inexperienced.
> >>
> >>
> >>> As a very experienced BF1942 / DC player, I found it more
> >>>than a match for the AK101 used by the MEC players.
> >>
> >> I would like to see you go head on with a burs-action rifle in
> >> close combat with someone with a full auto rifle. But then, this
> >> is hardly the point here. The point is that in my belief, the vast
> >> majority of players will prefer ranked servers to unlock the
> >> goodies, and they will stay there.
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>  Name: Frode Hommedal
> >>  Location: Norway
> >>  Day job: VLSI designer and programmer
> >>  Site: Battlefield.no [ http://www.battlefield.no ]
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>  International Game Server Operators Association [ http://igsoa.com ]
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > I had similar experiences when I moved BF, DC, and BF:V server IP's.
> > They never regained the popularity they had.   Players will not type in
> > an IP, they will only browse the list, using gamespy, or ASE.   If
> > servers are filtered, or suddenly 'not there' (due to a filter applied
> > during a patch), they will not come back, and they will not look for
> > their server.
> >
> > I agree there needs to be a way to tie the unlock weapons to any running
> > server, or allow all weapons unconditionally.   It's a simple
> > server-side switch.   Please give us that functionality.
> >
> > /BA
> >
>
>
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