[bf1942] Something that has come up with server settings, and a reccomendation..

Neal Clayton xayd at vae-victus.org
Tue Mar 8 23:51:30 EST 2005

And a "match" list of settings wouldn't really be beneficial, since 
different leagues have different rules (some have different nametag 
distances, some have crosshair restrictions, etc.).  Spawntime is the 
big one, and no obviously you wouldn't notice it unless you were dead.  
It could be changed, abused, then changed back without a person ever 
noticing, if that person didn't die during the time it was changed.  And 
even if you did die, you'd have to "miss" a spawn round to catch it, 
since you wouldn't know what the spawn timer was when you died.

The real problem is there's no way to catch it and prove it to someone 
not in the game.  If these changes were broadcast to the chat window, a 
simple screenshot would be all the proof you need that settings were 
altered during a match.

Neal Clayton wrote:

> Spawntime and friendly fire, think about it.
> 1) change spawntime to 0 or 1 or 5 or something tiny when you get into 
> defensive mode, so even if you start to lose a flag you get respawns 
> before it goes grey
> 2) change friendlyfire if you lose a tank and have to clear a tank off 
> of a flag with infantry, free grenade spam without having to worry 
> about team killing.
> These can be changed on the fly without a restart, and clearly affect 
> match play.
> I see nothing wrong with a broadcast of a setting being changed to the 
> chat window.  If there are legitimate reasons for changing these in a 
> pub, then broadcasting the changes when they're made is the only way, 
> imo.
> Markus Thurlin wrote:
>> If the setting affects gameplay so much, the team would notice the 
>> change
>> anyway?
>> I mean, there are not so many on-the-fly changes that would really 
>> affect
>> gameplay.
>> Free/chasecam, friendlyfire, allow nosecam/externalviews, roundtime
>> etc...they all are easy to spot.
>> Unless you tell us the exact setting you are worried about, we cant 
>> help you
>> Im afraid.
>> /Markus
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neal Clayton" <xayd at vae-victus.org>
>> To: <bf1942 at icculus.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 10:34 AM
>> Subject: [bf1942] Something that has come up with server settings, and a
>> reccomendation..
>>> This shouldn't be surprising, nor should it be surprising that it only
>>> came up late in a game's competitive lifespan, since newb teams that no
>>> one has heard of are the only people who will pull this stuff, to 
>>> try to
>>> win newb matches that no one cares about except themselves ;).
>>> Either way, there are settings that can be changed "on the fly" without
>>> restarting the current map on the bf'42 server, possibly bf:v server as
>>> well since they're similar.  No need to mention what they are, suffice
>>> to say that they are plenty to affect the outcome of a match.
>>> Any setting that affects gameplay should require a map restart to take
>>> effect.  If there's a reason for settings to be changed on the fly,
>>> changes to server settings should be broadcast to all players when
>>> they're made.  The reasons are pretty obvious, it's not feasible to
>>> constantly query the server to make sure the game's settings are not
>>> being changed on you while you're playing.

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