[bf1942] How could DICE agree to this??

Thomas Kuerten nospam at oddlnet.de
Tue Feb 22 06:52:06 EST 2005

So, let's just make this an experience to remember for them !
I, for my part, am seriously considering not buying and not installing 
any server for it.

If nothing of this nonsense changes, that is.

Seems to me that Battlefield 1942 was a singular great game, and - 
although not supported from EA anymore - still is. It was hard in the 
beginning and those problems prevented me from buying it even then for 
the duration of one year after release, until those problems were solved 
and a Linux server was available.

Lets WAIT ! Let them release it - and sell not a single copy but to 
morons who can't wait to buy everything that's new just because of that 

Give them the experience. Those companies will never change their 
attitude until it hurts or they understand that it doesn't work as 
expected. There is no point in whining, stop that. Just do what helps, 
and focus on more interesting subjects.



Flight 800 wrote:
> A real powerplay by EA to clamp down on server rental profits.  I 
> remember speaking to an EA marketing executive over a year ago when I 
> worked for a large GSP.  They called and asked a bunch of questions 
> about the industry in general, I remember thinking there was a real dark 
> cloud behind their inquiry.  I'm sure this will happen, regardless of 
> whether it ruins the game or not, it's an experiment they can't resist...
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Jon Wolberg [mailto:jon at ecgnetwork.com]
>     Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:44 AM
>     To: bf1942 at icculus.org
>     Subject: [bf1942] How could DICE agree to this??
>     Did anyone else see this interview?  A former customer of mine
>     showed it to me.
>     http://www.realityfriends.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=573
>      All this sounds great, but a few more details have come out that
>     are of concern:
>     1. Higher ranks get access to exclusive 'unlock' weapons
>     2. Higher ranks are the default choice for 'commander'
>     3. Only EA servers (offical and those rented from EA) will be
>     'ranking' servers (eg: players can only earn rank when playing on EA
>     servers)
>     4. Ranks will still be visible on unranked servers and therefore
>     ranked players can get access to the unlocked weapons on unranked
>     servers (and potentially a factor in determining who is commander)
>     5. Unranked servers can 'turn off' unlockable weapons, but cant
>     universally unlock them for all players
>     As you can imagine this creates a series of issues:
>     1. Inbalance between players with access to unlocked weapons and
>     those without (especially for casual gamers or those late to the game)
>     - plus will regular players on unranked (nonEA) servers get have to
>     hand over 'commander mode' to anyone who has a rank (which he
>     carried over from the EA servers)
>     2. Inbalance between EA servers and private servers (such as the
>     ECGN public servers or those rented from ECGN)
>     - Are the 'unranked' servers going to become 'ghost towns'?
>     Personally I think giving ranks anything more than bragging rights
>     is a mistake (eg: special weapons). And I think only providing them
>     on EA servers and EA rented servers is blackmail.  They did this
>     with Americas Army and it didnt work out that well.
>     thoughts?
>     Jon

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