[bf1942] BFVCC & BFVC3 ?

Jon Wolberg jon at ecgnetwork.com
Wed Mar 17 09:57:57 EST 2004


I wasnt complaining about the server, it runs fine.  What I was complaining
about was the lack of functionality ( it barely works ) in the program that
was supposed to ship with the CD to manage Windows servers.

Incist:  The bugs are not in the dedicated server, they are in the app that
shipped with it to manage it.  It seems all your replies to this list have
been nothing but negative towards other people.  You really should consider
leaving it and posting on the forums for everyones sake.

Jon Wolberg
Tech Support Manager
www.ECGNetwork.Com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Thompson" <fortweb at fortweb.com>
To: <bf1942 at icculus.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [bf1942] BFVCC & BFVC3 ?


> I can't believe I see people complaining about the server, you people
> complaining must be new to this because I have never seen such an attempt
> to get a nix dedicated server out prior to the release of the game. This
> guy busted his ass to get it to the point it is at now and anyone reading
> this list should be able to see that.
>
> Complaining about testing? What the hell do you think you are doing right
> now? This is brand new and if your not ready to accept bugs being present
> you should  not be running it. You can't have it both ways... new ded
> server released before the game is out plus fully tested... come on now,
be
> serious.
>
> Complaining about communication? Man, I can't understand that at all. I
see
> outstanding communication between the developer and the userbase taking
> place right here. If you honestly think this server/game release was
poorly
> orchestrated you should try hosting Valve servers for awhile so you can
> gain an understanding of what the benchmark for a poor release is.
>
> There are some issues, that is true but do a reality check! You had a nix
> server before the game was released, you had a number of the initial
> (inevitable) bugs worked out when the game went live and you have people
> actively working to tie up loose ends as fast as you can find them... what
> else can you ask for?
>
> I won't buy the game until we can host the server. We won't host a server
> until we can sell them and we won't sell them until we have an admin tool
> available that allows control without direct machine access.
>
> Not real happy about that because I am *really* looking forward to this
> game. However, I am confident it is going to happen fast and the topic has
> been beat to death over the last couple of weeks here so I think the point
> has been made, a good admin tool will be instrumental to the success of
> this game.
>
> Even if an admin tool was available on release I still would not have
> installed the server right away. We have been doing this long enough to
> know that it can be accomplished two ways...
>
> 1. Install brand new server right away and then fight it / install patches
> every day for a week or two.
>
> 2. Wait a week or two and install a stable version in five minutes after
> the early installers have identified all the serious problems.
>
> Rick
>


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